Skip to comments.How to get your dishwasher back (Make phosphate detergent) Vanity
Posted on 02/13/2011 1:14:16 PM PST by dickmc
Pittsburgh isnt even in the Chesapeake watershed. However, like everywhere else apparently phosphates have disappeared from dishwasher detergents. The result is dishes that arent particularly clean and feel slimy.
After some checking, I found that the disappeared phosphate content in dishwasher detergent was around six percent. On a recent visit to the plumbing supply store to get some parts, I found that they still had one pound boxes of the real TSP (trisodium phosphate Na3PO4); not the fake ersatz 'TSP' stuff that Home Depot is only selling. In fact, the real TSP is still available all over the net.
Not being able to find any phosphate containing dishwasher detergent at any grocery store, I decided to make my own. Heres how:
1. Buy a large 7.5 pound bottle of gel type dishwasher detergent.
2. Dump in a bucket and add one-half of a one pound box of TSP. This will make a 6.25% mix of TSP in the detergent. (Actually the weight percent of Phosphate in TSP (Na3PO4) is 58% making the Phosphate in the mix 6.25 x 0.58 or 3.6% but thats good enough for government work!)
3. Stir with a paint stick. If you want, add a half-cup of water to somewhat reduce the gel viscosity.
4. After about one minute of stirring, the TSP particles will be thoroughly distributed in the gel. (They dont dissolve but thats OK as long as they are evenly mixed.)
5. Put back in the bottle ...with the leftover in the empty bottle. (A funnel helps which I had from garage stuff.)
Tried it out yesterday.
VIOLA! The dishes are now 'squeaky' clean with no slime film. Also, the dishwasher insides now look clean again.
Enjoy the info.
Interesting. We add tsp 40:60 to our dry soap detergent. Helps a lot. You can still buy tsp at hardware stores here in California. (Shhh, do the libbies know?).
10611 1 lb. Savogran TSP
This is what you look for.
This is one of these cases where having 4 years worth of supplies (of everything) buys me some time to adapt (I just have to remember not to replenish right away).
Want an easier way to get the old dishwashing detergent that works? Buy it from a restaurant/hotel supply store. The phosphate ban doesn’t apply to them. They’re easy to find and buy from - I got a case of 6 which should last most of the year. It’s ridiculous that we have to resort to stuff like this, but that’s what the environmentalist movement is all about - making life harder for ordinary people.
**You can achieve the same results by using a sponge with dishwashing soap to get the grease off your dishes BEFORE putting them in the dishwasher.**
Following the above, if you use hot water and rinse well after the sponging.. you can delete the entire dishwasher, completely.
You’ve already WASHED the damn things!!
Can everyday citizens buy in those places? Thought you had to have a tax number or something...
I have been having trouble with my cologne (Nina Ricci).
I’ve tossed many half full bottles out because of lack of scent.
What do we look for,or avoid?
I thought it was me.
“...You’ve already washed the damn things!”
Actually, they’re not as clean as what a dishwasher would achieve. Sponges or dishrags carry lots of bacteria.
Blue Dawn is what I use to pre-clean dishes and utensils.
That’s what we do. I am SO glad to have clean dishes again!
My DH bought some green dishwasher detergent and it sucked. If I were going to wash my dishes first I wouldn’t bother putting them in the machine. I just get the food chunks off.
No kidding, the dishes were gross, washed them for a second time before I realized the problem, they were just as gross after two washes.
And this is *JUST* a guess/theory on my part : But it is well known that moslems refuse to wear alcohol including sd alcohol, which WAS the base for many if not most fragrances. I know Avon and some others went to alcohol free fragrances for the moslem market overseas. Is it *just* possible that the "environment" excuse was BS, and it's really because it's cheaper and easier to just make EVERYTHING for the moslem market, rather than doing a batch for Jordan, Egypt, SA, etc, and another batch for Europe, North America, and Asian markets? Just make everything halal friendly, just as some fast food joints in the UK and the USA went to all halal meat first for areas with large moslem populations, and then pretty much everywhere? I know I got a bottle of Jovan's Wild Honeysuckle that was for the moslem market overseas (lots of squigglies on the box and on the label on the underside), and it smelled wrong and weak. This was back in the late 1990s, and I bought it from one of those discount beauty supply catalogs. I later bought a "vintage" bottle off ebay, and it smelled as I remembered, so I am sure it was the alcohol substitute that made the other bottle smell "off" and gave the scent no staying power.
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