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OBAMA NOT EVEN A UNITED STATES CITIZEN
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17559086/Obama-Not-Even-A-United-States-Citizen-The-Case-Against-Obama-The ^ | July 2, 2009 | Paul Dunk

Posted on 02/13/2011 3:34:00 PM PST by NoLibZone

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To: Brown Deer; All

This is mostly true... still getting it all together, but so far this is inaccurate.

The child Bill Ayers adopted was a BOY named Chesa, whose mother (Kathy Boudin) was Louis Boudin’s great NIECE. Therefore, Louis Boudin’s GREAT GREAT NEPHEW was the one adopted by Ayers.

Also, Kathy (the one convicted for the murders of the cops in the Brinks robbery) has a brother who was appointed as a judge on the US Circuit of Appeals by George H. W. Bush...

How ironic.


101 posted on 02/14/2011 8:55:44 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: edge919

POTENTIALLY EXPATRIATING ACTS

Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain specified acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Briefly stated, these acts include:

1. obtaining naturalization in a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA);
2. taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA);
3. entering or serving in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the U.S. or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA);
4. accepting employment with a foreign government if (a) one has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) an oath or declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position (Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA);
5. formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer outside the United States (sec. 349 (a) (5) INA);
6. formally renouncing U.S. citizenship within the U.S. (but only under strict, narrow statutory conditions) (Sec. 349 (a) (6) INA);
7. conviction for an act of treason (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).

ADMINISTRATIVE STANDARD OF EVIDENCE

As already noted, the actions listed above can cause loss of U.S. citizenship only if performed voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship. The Department has a uniform administrative standard of evidence based on the premise that U.S. citizens intend to retain United States citizenship when they obtain naturalization in a foreign state, subscribe to a declaration of allegiance to a foreign state, serve in the armed forces of a foreign state not engaged in hostilities with the United States, or accept non-policy level employment with a foreign government.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html


102 posted on 02/14/2011 9:01:27 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Mr Rogers

The loss of nationality act was passed in 1952, IIRC, which again makes this concept a 20th century invention. As it was originally written and in effect when Obama was adopted, it would not have prevented him from renouncing his U.S. citizenship (providing he ever had such citizenship) as a child. And again, the more important issue is if he retained Indonesian citizenship as an adult, but lied about it in order to sway voters into believing he has always been a U.S. citizen when he was not.


103 posted on 02/14/2011 9:30:38 AM PST by edge919
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To: autumnraine

Why is it that I can instantly look at all the passport records for this man from 100 years ago, but nothing at all is available for the current President of the United States?

Name: Louis B Boudin
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1874
Birth Place: Korm, Gost of Kiev, Russia
Age: 36
Residence: New York City, New York
Passport Issue Date: 19 Jul 1910
Passport Includes a Photo: No

Name: Louis Peter Bondilenoff Boudin
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1874
Birth Place: Korun, Province of Kiev, (Morians), Russia
Age: 47
Residence: New York City, New York
Passport Issue Date: 22 Jun 1921
Father Name: Peter Boudin
Father’s Birth Location: Russia
Father’s Residence: New York City, New York
Passport Includes a Photo: Yes

Name: Louis Peter Boudwanoff Boudin
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1874
Birth Place: Korsun, Russia, Ukratine
Age: 50
Residence: Brooklyn, New York
Passport Issue Date: 28 Jun 1924
Father Name: Peter Boudin
Father’s Birth Location: Russia
Father’s Residence: Brooklyn New York
Passport Includes a Photo: Yes


104 posted on 02/14/2011 9:35:29 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Why is it that I can instantly look at all the passport records for this man from 100 years ago, but nothing at all is available for the current President of the United States?


It’s not only the records from POTUS, but his mother and Lolo as well.

FOIA REPORT: KENNETH L. ALLEN

Mr. Allen has filed over 50 FOIA requests. These actions include (FOIA) requests seeking the immediate processing and release of agency records with regard to Barry Soetoro, Stanley Ann Soetoro, and Lolo Soetoro and all known and unknown aliases.

FOIA REPORT: CPT PAMELA BARNETT U.S. ARMY (RET.)
http://unlawfulpresident.com
CPT Barnett (Ret.) for over two years now has been seeking through a FOIA request with the DOS passport records from United States Passport and all consular records for Stanley Ann Dunham aka Stanley Ann Obama aka Ann Dunham aka Ann Obama for the years of 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-pixel-patriot-analysis.html


105 posted on 02/14/2011 10:19:19 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: edge919

While I think it is pretty clear that Obama, if born in the US, is a natural born citizen, I can at least understand the concern and wish the Supreme Court would make it a formal ruling.

I do not understand how someone could claim he was born in the US but had lost his citizenship as a child. That is almost impossible to do.


106 posted on 02/14/2011 11:02:17 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Ronin
"Ff Obama ever traveled anywhere under an Indonesian passport, he had lost his American citizenship at that point, regardless of where he was born."

Is there any evidence that Obama held an Indonesian passport as an adult?

107 posted on 02/14/2011 11:10:53 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Is there any evidence that Obama held an Indonesian passport as an adult?

There's no evidence he held a U.S. passport until after he became president. That's the point of the school record from Indonesia. It lists him as an Indonesian citizen and there's no documentary evidence afterward to show that he's a U.S. citizen until that presidential passport was captured on video.

108 posted on 02/14/2011 12:24:52 PM PST by edge919
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Obviously not — but that’s pretty much the whole point, isn’t it?

Practically every record that Americans are used to seeing about their Presidential candidates — not to mention Presidents — has been carefully hidden away in Obama’s case.

There is, of course, that trip to Pakistan at a time when US passports were invalid fo travel there. But I can think of a couple of ways to get around that, simple bribery being the easiest.

Who knows? Until someone breaks the barrier of secrecy surrounding Obama’s past, it’s all just speculation.


109 posted on 02/14/2011 4:40:27 PM PST by Ronin ("Dismantle the TSA and send the screeners back to Wal-Mart.")
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To: Ronin
"There is, of course, that trip to Pakistan at a time when US passports were invalid fo travel there."

In 1981,when Obama visited Pakistan, US passports were valid for entry (In fact, Pakistan was running a PR campaign to encourage US citizens to visit).

For example GOOGLE turns up this article by an American travel writer about a '81 vist:

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/travel/lahore-a-survivor-with-a-bittersweet-history.html

including visa information:

"Tourists can obtain a free, 30-day visa (necessary for Americans) at border crossings and airports."

110 posted on 02/14/2011 5:17:39 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Then he should have no problem producing his passport then.


111 posted on 02/14/2011 5:21:04 PM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Then he should have no problem producing his passport then.


112 posted on 02/14/2011 5:21:15 PM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: NoLibZone; MinuteGal; rawcatslyentist; Typical_Whitey; Baynative; deport; marron; freebird5850; ...
Howdy FRiends

I'm in a position to comment on the BC issue - I am after all the one who originally released the information that you have - the school registration -

Time Magazine outed me in late 2008 - The Blogger Behind The Obama Hit Job

Until now I have not mentioned anything on the BC issue for a few reasons - some of which I am not at liberty to discuss and won't at this time.

What I can say now is that I have seen the BC with my own eyes and it does exist - however it was a BC for Barry Soetoro and not for Barack Obama - at the time I did not think to look at the copy or to write down what was on it - the concern was whether or not Obama was a Muslim - the school registration was all I saw that mentioned Islam and as such - it was reported by me on 24 Jan 2007. The AP photo of the document was not released until 2008 as far as I know. You will have to ask AP why they sat on it. I thought AP would have taken a photo of all the documents - at the time I did not have a camera with me.

During this time in Indonesia there was a rush to get info on Obama by various government officials and departments - who also offered cash for documents - the claim was that the documents were needed for our nation's national archives and many photos and documents were snapped up.

You will notice on my blog that I basically stopped blogging on Obama in late 2008 - at that time the BC was what I was seeking and I was convinced (for lack of better word) to "lay off" - I did - Im sorry but I cannot go into details as to why or who asked me to lay off - what I will say is that the BC exists - but it is not the name Barack Hussein Obama on the BC - the name is Barry Soetoro - father Lolo and born in Hawaii.

Barry Soetoro versus The Birthers

113 posted on 02/14/2011 5:49:45 PM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: expatguy

What you saw was the “amended” BC, when Lolo adopted him. Not the original, which should have been archived and sealed when the amended BC was issued.

That does not solve the problem of proof of where he was born, nor whether Barrack H. Obama, Sr. was in fact his biological father.

No hospital record exists in HI for either Barrack H. Obama, Jr. or Barrry Soetoro (& other spellings). Question is still, why no record and where he was actually born.

The only way that Barrack H. Obama, Jr. is possibly a “natural born” U.S. Citizen is if someone other than Barrack H. Obama, Sr. fathered him and that person was also a U.S. Citizen as required by the Constitution.....Regardless of where he was born....


114 posted on 02/14/2011 6:22:55 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: expatguy
Read your blog several years ago, before your "silence" on this issue.

Powers that be, in many places don't want this to be an issue. For some reason.

You are a strange mix in your part of the world. Have a friend who is Christian from Okinawa and that this means something to her too.

115 posted on 02/14/2011 7:17:16 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ebysan

In recent months, the Kenyan Parliament also said he was born there. See my tagline.


116 posted on 02/14/2011 8:06:13 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: expatguy

Why the name swap from Barry Soetoro?


117 posted on 02/14/2011 8:09:02 PM PST by NoLibZone (Obama must be impeached and tried for treason.)
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To: NoLibZone; Fred Nerks

So, this was birth date you were questioning a few days ago? Interesting that the dob is written, “4-8-1961” and the date accepted into the Indonesian school is written, “1-1-68 (January 1, 1968).” If the acceptance date is mdy, then the dob would be April 8, 1961.


118 posted on 02/14/2011 8:15:29 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: expatguy

Nothing trumps chocolate except a really good taco!


119 posted on 02/14/2011 8:39:16 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: NoLibZone
Why the name swap from Barry Soetoro?

Do you mean why did he go back to Obama? I suspect it had something to do with getting him a scholarship to Punahou. Think about it - Obama Sr. was supposedly big man on the East-West campus and one of his Punahou teachers did summer teaching gigs in Kenya. What could be a better "in" into elite Hawaiian society than to play up the Obama name over Soetoro.

120 posted on 02/14/2011 8:48:45 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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