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Tiger Woods may face censure from European Tour for spitting on 12th green
UK Telegraph ^ | 12-14-2011 | Kevin Garside

Posted on 02/13/2011 10:49:06 PM PST by Frantzie

The largely expat gallery had flocked to the Omega Dubai Desert Classic to see Woods win for the first time in more than a year. Instead, what they got for their money was an exhibition of spitting by Woods that might yet receive a rebuke from the European Tour to match that of Sky commentator Ewen Murray, who gave him both barrels on air.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: golf; pimpdaddy; tigerwoods
The PGA has no problem with Woods swearing, spitting, throwing golf clubs and other antics. What about that drug testing too? What a joke.

"The world No 3(Woods), who started one off the lead, bogeyed two of the opening three holes and put a wedge into the water at the last from 100 yards. The double-bogey finish left him in a share of 20th place, seven shots behind winner Alvaro Quirós."

A wedge 100 yards out into the water??? Pro golfers rarely do that.

This Spanish kid Quiros should be nicknamed The Bull because he crushes the ball at 350+ yards per drive easy. He also has a short game plus he can putt. Tiger's time may be over because these mega bombers like Quiros, Bubba Watson, and Dustin Johnson can hit is 350 yards plus and they have added the other aspects of the game.

In addition, Woods also has to face a almost as long but incredible technician in Martin Kaymer.

1 posted on 02/13/2011 10:49:13 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

His dad continues to spin in his grave at 1000 rpm.


2 posted on 02/13/2011 11:05:02 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Frantzie

Even so, Tiger’s well ahead of the pace of Nicklaus, and should pass Sneed despite this massive slump.


3 posted on 02/14/2011 12:06:38 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi

He does not have it anymore. His game is now at “scratch’. Bet he is still up to his old tricks.


4 posted on 02/14/2011 1:49:45 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: BenKenobi

Tiger will never accomplish what Jack did. He picks and chooses his tournaments and has focused on the “majors) (US Open, Masters, PGA and British Open), which Jack did not focus on just to beta someone’s record. In Jack’s day pro golfers had to play all the time in order to eat. Jack’s wins in all tournaments will never be surpassed by Tiger. Also, Jack coming in 2nd in so-called “majors” will not be bested by the spoiled one.


5 posted on 02/14/2011 2:26:50 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: buccaneer81

His dad cheated on his mom then dumped her.


6 posted on 02/14/2011 6:43:28 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: BenKenobi

Nope. He may get it together but now he can just win in set up tourneys like the end of last year in Australia against local club pros. It is a setup like a washed up fighter taking on sterno bums. The current field is too good.

Hitting a wedge 100 yards from the hole into the water? He may pass Snead but Jack? I doubt it.


7 posted on 02/14/2011 6:51:33 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Frantzie

Every time I see Woods on TV, I root against him. He is a characterless adultering narcissist who is Obama’s uglier twin.


8 posted on 02/14/2011 8:41:09 AM PST by thethirddegree (Islam is a vile, barbaric, perverted, depraved,seditious cult invented by a murdering pedophile)
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To: shalom aleichem

Tiger has 4 majors per year and he is going to have a tough time. His knee has been operated on 3 times? British Open? No way. He missed the cut in 2009. Masters? If Phil is playing well then forget it. Phil was awesome last year. PGA and US Open maybe but the young guns at the PGA were pretty awesome last year. Bombers DJ and Bubba, technician Kaymer and 21 year old Rory McIlroy.

The Tiger fanboys on GolfWrx have said that Tiger should aswallow his pride and go back to Butch Harmon who is supposedly the best golf coach in the world. Tiger quit Butch years ago.

Butch has Mickelson and about 5 other very good golfers as clients - all nice guys too. So Butch is gonna take back cheap Tiger when Mickelson probably pays him $1 million a year? Butch gets on well with cheerful Phil too. Ain’t gonna happen. Butch does not even like Tiger.


9 posted on 02/14/2011 8:59:04 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: screaminsunshine

If the slump lasts another two years, I’d agree.

However, he’s still well ahead of Jack’s pace.


10 posted on 02/14/2011 10:18:05 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Frantzie

Woods may be a great golfer, but sadly his parents never taught him any manners and he’s a spoiled, bratty, no class little punk.


11 posted on 02/14/2011 10:20:09 AM PST by jpl ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." - Barack Obama)
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To: BenKenobi
Tiger’s well ahead of the pace of Nicklaus

Nope. Jack had 14 majors by the time he was Tiger's current age. (Tiger has 14 majors as well). I doubt he'll ever catch Jack. And if he doesn't dramatically improve his game he may not catch Snead ether.

Spitting on the green -- how Sergio Garcia of him. Two perpetually bitter punks.

12 posted on 02/14/2011 10:33:04 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Nicklaus won his 15th in the 78 open, when he was 38.

Tiger’s just now turned 35. Tiger’s still 3 majors ahead of Jack, who won 3 when he was 35, in ‘75.


13 posted on 02/14/2011 11:00:23 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: jpl

The mother is a Thai and I read that she encourage him to beat his opponents to the point of humiliating them. I am glad the European Tour told him enough. He was swearing up a storm and throwing club in 2009 at The (British) Open when he missed the cut because he was playing poorly.


14 posted on 02/14/2011 11:02:37 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: BenKenobi
Ok then, well be the end of this year they'll be even at the same age.
15 posted on 02/14/2011 11:02:42 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: BenKenobi
Ok then, well by the end of this year they'll be even at the same age.
16 posted on 02/14/2011 11:03:40 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: BenKenobi

Did Jack have a bum knee and a sh*tty attitude? The young players are too good now and much longer than Tiger.

Jack’s advantage is that he was always longer than his peers. Jack would crush it.

Then there also is the steroids rumors, the speculation that he got off them after the 2008 US Open and it hurt his golf. I am not talking about Jack.


17 posted on 02/14/2011 11:09:57 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: BenKenobi

Jack...he is not.


18 posted on 02/14/2011 11:55:51 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: BenKenobi

Jack would have never let this happen.


19 posted on 02/14/2011 11:56:44 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: Frantzie

I wasn’t think about Earl’s anger from a moral standpoint as much as an image angle, from golf etiquette (Tiger’s went down the tubes after Earl died) to the perception of a solid family man.


20 posted on 02/14/2011 12:00:29 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Frantzie

So spitting on the 12th green was what did it huh? A couple of dozen trixies on the side and destroying his family in such a horrid way wasn’t?


21 posted on 02/14/2011 12:07:24 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

The European Tour appears to enforce some rules of decorum. The PGA Tour does whatever Tiger wants them to do.


22 posted on 02/14/2011 12:27:26 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: buccaneer81
Well Earl was suuposedly getting cash on the side when Tiger was an amateur which is strictly verboten. Earl dumped his first AA wife for the Thai wife when he was in Nam.
23 posted on 02/14/2011 12:32:42 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Frantzie

Get a grip and check your facts. You don’t have any idea what you are talking about.


24 posted on 02/14/2011 12:35:01 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Frantzie
His dad cheated on his mom then dumped her.

Again, you are clueless. You're obviously not a golfer so stop acting like you are. Tiger's mom AND dad were at his tournaments until the day the old guy died.

25 posted on 02/14/2011 12:39:35 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: jpl
Woods may be a great golfer, but sadly his parents never taught him any manners and he’s a spoiled, bratty, no class little punk.

Another clueless poster.

26 posted on 02/14/2011 12:41:38 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: shalom aleichem
In Jack’s day pro golfers had to play all the time in order to eat.

In Jack's day there were only a handfull of golfers that could compete against him. Today any member of the PGA has the ability to pull a win at any given tournament. IOW, the competition in the PGA today is much, much greater than in Jack's........

Nicklaus won his last PGA tounament at the age of 46 for a total of 73. Woods already has 71 wins while only 35 years old. Allowing Woods the same age span, Woods has 11 more years in which to win four more majors.

So the question isn't will he get four more wins but rather when..........I would be extremely surprised if he didn't have them by the time he is 40.

27 posted on 02/14/2011 12:45:24 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Oh Magoo, you've done it again.....)
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To: subterfuge

Hey Tiger fan boy. My correction - Earl dumped his first wife who was African American for his new Thai wife in Asia. Tiger learned more than golf from dad. Do you work for the PGA? How are those steroid tests going?


28 posted on 02/14/2011 12:57:52 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Frantzie

Don’t like blacks Frantz? No one in your family divorced? If there are, are you in their faces too?

Tiger has been on record from the very first day of being asked about steroids, and he has always said they “should start today.”

Its one thing to talk about on-course demeanor or records, but delving into his family and SPECULATING about it is wrong.


29 posted on 02/14/2011 1:05:09 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Frantzie
What about that drug testing too

You keep claiming Woods is on steroids Frantzie, where is the proof? Specifically, what type of steroid is he on?

It's one thing to criticize an athlete for his performance or off field personal life but it's absolutely slanderous to make baseless accusations of steroid use without one shred of evidence.

Your pathological obsession with steroids has yet to produce the evidence I've been asking from you for a long time now.......but then again, you still haven't been able to explain how you are able to watch these tour events considering your many claims that you disconnected your television and don't watch it anymore.......


30 posted on 02/14/2011 1:06:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Oh Magoo, you've done it again.....)
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To: Frantzie

At least he only spits out of his mouth when he’s on the course.


31 posted on 02/14/2011 1:07:22 PM PST by RichInOC (An erect Tiger Woods has no conscience.)
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To: subterfuge

No you are clueless. Go to GolfWrx. The web site has a lot of good golfers and I bet no one posting there shoots over 85 and many are low handicappers.

The site is divided into Tiger fan boys like you who think he is bigger than golf and real golf fans who think he is by and large a disgrace.

Now get back to work trying to find someone dumb enough to buy Nike irons or their crappy golf shoes that fall apart.


32 posted on 02/14/2011 1:10:45 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Hot Tabasco

We had this debate before. Let’s just say he has had a pattern of serial cheating and cutting corners. He was on the juice and the PGA probably got scared and started testing in 2008, a week after his knee was operated on. The PGA finally stopped looking the other way. Since then he has become an average golfer at best.


33 posted on 02/14/2011 1:16:53 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Frantzie

Yeah, I think I hit a nerve. You don’t like black folks.

I’m not really a huge Tiger fan, I just don’t like BSers spinning things to their way of thinking when it is wrong.

When Tiger does play, I usually rooted against him, just because I thought he was winning too many tourneys. He plays too few tournaments, gets way too much coverage and acts the fool on the course. But you spouting conjecture and making up things about the guy only makes you seem small, not him.

Non-golfers like you don’t seem to understand the fine line between being a “good golfer” and winning on the PGA Tour. Tiger, for all his shortcomings, will win and win majors before it is all over. And you? You’ll probably still be crying about it on FR. Good luck with that.


34 posted on 02/14/2011 1:23:06 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: subterfuge

LOL! How do you figure I don’t like blacks? You sound like a Dem - if everything fails - cry racism. He is not black anyway - not even half. His old man was not 100% African America. He is a cheat. He has a history of cheating and bad behavior in which he gets a pass by the PGA. I do not like any fraud who acts badly and gets a pass. White, black or mixed half Asian.

He was on the juice. He worked with a doctor known to be heavily involved in steroids. There is no doubt. He probably got off it after the knee operation in 2008. The PGA finally decided to test because people were getting too close to that doctor plus all the other cheats getting caught.

Now he is a fairly average golfer.


35 posted on 02/14/2011 1:27:40 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Frantzie

Tiger has EARNED everything he has gotten in the game of golf. Steroids and now you say “cheating?” Was Tiger on ‘roids when he was winning all those amatuer events as a kid?

Please cite your sources for your slander or Shut UP.

And I’ve got news for you. Steroids don’t help you in golf. How does PEDs help you putt, chip, hit an approach shot? Duh. It CANNOT.

Bubba Watson weighs about 165 lbs and hits the ball a mile, so he must be on steroids too, according to your decision-making. Just stop replying—you’re making a fool out of yourself.

And Nike equipment is garbage, fwiw.


36 posted on 02/14/2011 1:35:32 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: subterfuge

Nope. Early on maybe. Later it was steroids. I do not like white or black “athletes” who cheat using steroids or who engage in poor sportsmanship, serial adultery or criminal behavior.

Tiger is The Charlie Sheen of Golf. He is a disgrace. If any other golfer did what he did, the media would hound him out of golf.


37 posted on 02/14/2011 1:50:59 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: subterfuge; Frantzie
Please cite your sources for your slander or Shut UP.

Frantzie has no sources, no proof, no nothing.....I've been challenging him for several years now.

He's just a pathetic person who's targeted Tiger Woods due to Wood's golfing success. But I suspect you're right, with no evidence of steroid abuse, the long ago hatred of Woods by this pathological creep before Wood's indescreditions can only be attrubuted to racism.....

Frantzie still has refused to answer my questions as to how he can report on televised events when he has stated on many occasions that he has disconnected his TV and no longer watches it.

In summation, Frantzie is either a pathological liar or a racist.........I suspect both.

38 posted on 02/14/2011 2:11:28 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Oh Magoo, you've done it again.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Tiger Woods has disgraced golf. You are a typical liberal who jumps on the racist bandwagon if someone disagrees with you. He is a steroid abuser and the PGA was forced to test in mid 2008. He quit and has not been the same since. You are a typical Tiger Woods fan boy.


39 posted on 02/14/2011 3:06:58 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Frantzie
You are a typical Tiger Woods fan boy.

And you are still a slanderous liar who has failed to produce the evidence we have been asking for a very long time.........

Get a life you pathetic loser........you've become nothing but an obnoxious, steroid obsessed hemorroid on these golfing threads........and by your own admission, golf is not a sport and you don't even watch it.

SO WHY DO YOU EVEN PARTICIPATE ON THESE GOLF FORUMS IF NOT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO YOURSELF AND JUST BE A BIG PAIN IN THE ASS?

I've figured it out now, you're nothing but a lonely attention whore............


40 posted on 02/14/2011 4:21:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Oh Magoo, you've done it again.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco; Frantzie

Jack finished 2nd 19 times in Majors. So his 1-2 finishes put him at 37

Disagree with HT’s easy-to-say line that competition is better now. Like Jim Thorpe and Jim Brown being the best RBs of all time, there are those who say (”argue”) that today’s backs are better because of better defenses, better this or that. Besides, Tiger is imploding. His search for low hanging fruit, i.e. # of Majors wins, is pathetic.

In any event, Tiger will never reach the character quotient Jack had and which Earle wished for his son to have.


41 posted on 02/14/2011 5:11:54 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Frantzie

Back when...

TIGER’S CHURCH IS CLOSING ** John Ziegler **
Tiger Woods Is God .com ^ | 12/01/09 | John Ziegler, Former Pastor, “First Church of Tiger Woods”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2398622/posts

Alas... On this now 2nd infamous day for Tiger, his church, and Sainthood is forever gone.

http://www.tigerwoodsisgod.com is officially extinct.


42 posted on 02/14/2011 5:13:20 PM PST by reformjoy
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To: Frantzie

In the 1970’s, Nicklaus was top 10 in both driving distance AND accuracy.

His short game was mediocre by tour standards even then, but when he had his A game, it didn’t matter

Current tour, no-one is even close to top 10 in both distance and accuracy.

In contrast, Woods = no class on the way up; no class on the way down.


43 posted on 02/14/2011 5:44:57 PM PST by Reverend Wright (Arrest, Intern, Deport !)
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To: shalom aleichem
Jack finished 2nd 19 times in Majors. So his 1-2 finishes put him at 37

Out of 163 starts as compared to Woods' 53 starts - over three times as many........But we're talking about wins, not runners up..........nobody gives a rip about the second, third, fourth or fifth place golfers because in the grand scheme of things, they're just the losers.

44 posted on 02/14/2011 5:50:26 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Oh Magoo, you've done it again.....)
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To: shalom aleichem

There are a lot of younger players now who have no fear of him, hit it farther than him and have good short games/putting.

The future was really at the PGA last year which was won by very long Dustin Johnson. The problem is he grounded his club is supposed bunker that was filled with fans.

It came down to even longer Bubba Watson versus very precise Martin Kaymer who can hit it far. They were being chased by 21 year old Rory McIlroy who is longer than Tiger.

Throw in 17 year old Matteo Mannesero who has already won a pro event and who made the cut at The British Open in 2009 (Tiger didn’t) at 16 and then at The Masters at 16.

Tiger has a bum knee too. I could almost forgive him globally humiliating his wife and being a Charley Sheen/Vick/Mike Tyson of golf but he keeps swearing, throwing clubs and acts like an arse.

In my book, Jack is probably the best and if Hogan had not been in a head on collision with a Greyhound bus, he would have been the best. Hogan with a destroyed body came back and won tourneys. Probably one of the greatest come backs in history.

I think Palmer still cuts Tiger some slack but Jack appears to avoid him now.


45 posted on 02/14/2011 7:15:01 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: reformjoy

LOL!
There is a raging battle over at GolfWrx. The hard core Tiger fan boys are like Obama voters. He could kill someone and they would rationalize it.

What really irks me is the media’s double standard and fawning over him. The PGA bending over backwards for him. His fan boys saying he made golf, he is bigger than golf, golf would be nothing without him.

He has disgraced golf and lowered the standards and his mixed race is not the issue. Other golfers do anything wrong and they are pilloried by the media and PGA.

A young golfer the week before last said Tiger in the final round MAY have been going through the motions because he had no chance of winning. Something like that but far more innocent because the dumb reporter asked him about Tiger. The kid was attacked, had to apologize for fear the PGA might ban him or something it was insane.

At the start of 2010, Mickelson question the arbitrary rules by the USGA on wedges and allowing an old Ping wedge but banning newer wedges with deeper grooves. The (liberal) sports media made him out to be public enemy number one. It was insane. The liberal sports media treats Woods like Obama and Mickelseon like Palin.


46 posted on 02/14/2011 7:24:56 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Frantzie; AT7Saluki

I would be disqualified in the parking lot.


47 posted on 02/14/2011 9:42:46 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Thanks for that HT. In my view, posts like his make the forum look bad, and I don’t like that one bit.

We’re supposed to gravitate toward truth. Franzie, not so much. Opinion is one thing, making things up is another.

Happpy FReeping!


48 posted on 02/15/2011 5:36:23 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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