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New Book On Phonics Explains How Logical English Is
Amazon.com ^ | Feb 15, 2011 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 02/18/2011 1:01:50 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice

Following is review on Amazon:::::

"Memo To Teachers: Come Back To Real Reading--

Starting in 1931, the Education Establishment unleashed Look-Say upon the children of the United States. The result was a rising tide of illiteracy. The number of functional illiterates now exceeds 50,000,000.

The so-called experts who engineered this decline have shown a demonic cleverness in attacking the common sense of phonics, while piling up sophistries that supposedly justify the hoax of Whole Word or Sight Words. It is against this backdrop that Denise Eide writes her book "Uncovering the Logic of English."

Eide quantifies our unnecessary crisis: "The statistics are both numbing and consistent. 32% of fourth graders read well, 34% test below proficiency, and 34% cannot read. Every time I meet an elementary school teacher, I ask if this reflects their experience. They all say it does."

Think of Denise Eide as a professor of phonics. She has laid out all the rules that govern English spelling and pronunciation in an appealing way. Probably every elementary school teacher should have this book; and I suspect there might be some Scrabble and crossword-puzzle fanatics who would enjoy learning the technical aspects of English. (For example, did you know that no English words end with the letters i, u, v and j? Words that do have been borrowed from a foreign language.)

Eide acknowledges that "it is not as easy to learn and spell English as it is most other phonetic languages. Yet a finite number of tools unlock the mystery of 98% of the words in the English language. When these 104 tools are presented, all students can succeed." (Rudolf Flesch, in his 1981 book "Why Johnny STILL Can't Read," used a similar percentage, stating that 97.4% of English spelling is phonetic.)

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To: Question Liberal Authority
It's an abbreviated form of "y'all".

One of the delights of moving to The South is discovering
that "y'all" is really singular ... "all y'all" is plural.

Who knew?

21 posted on 02/18/2011 1:38:45 PM PST by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: DManA
A couple of billion Asians can.

Yes, but if I understand it correctly, even those pictograms share certain root syllable/symbols within them. Each and every symbol/word is not necessarily unique. It's not exactly phonetic but not exclusively whole word either. Can anyone here verify this for me?

Coincidentally, I JUST got back from Target with Phase 1 of Hooked on Phonics for my 4 year old daughter. :)

22 posted on 02/18/2011 1:41:17 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
“Whole Word, in operation, functions as a Ponzi scheme. The child learns to read 50 words or 100 words, and is soon able to “read” small books with controlled vocabularies. That apparent success keeps the parents quiet.”

My wife and I have taught our granddaughter phonics since she showed an interest in reading after being read to most every night from age of 2 or 3. Now in Kindergarten she has been tested as reading at 4th grade level and quickly zooming past that. The Sight Words method of teaching frustrates her to no end.

The books that are sent home for practice are really junk. Very limited in words. It is hard to read through these books as the sentence structure makes no sense.

Sight Words method is another example of junk science that was passed down by the great minds of the ivory towers. Then blindly accepted as gospel without question by the education establishment.

Not a wonder that half of the kids cannot read. Don't get me started on Math and Science......

23 posted on 02/18/2011 1:42:41 PM PST by TarponTom (They called it golf because all the other four letter words were used)
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To: RightField
"y'all" is really singular ... "all y'all" is plural. Who knew?

True southerners are born knowing this. I came from California, so it took me awhile to catch on.

24 posted on 02/18/2011 1:44:22 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: RightField
Who knew?

All y'all.
25 posted on 02/18/2011 1:47:28 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Worst. Post-Racial. And Post-Partisan. Agent Of Hope And Change. EVER.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

This is a series I’m glad to see come back:

http://www.amazon.com/Wise-Learn-Read-Books-1-4/dp/0915766728/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1298065904&sr=1-3


26 posted on 02/18/2011 1:57:54 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: RightField

Well, both are plural...it’s just that “y’all” can be a subset of “all y’all”, in which case it really means “summa y’all”. So you have to add the “all” in there to be clear that you mean the whole group.

By the way, I knew a guy from the Midwest — I can’t remember where — who used “yins” to indicate the plural “you”. I had heard “yous” and “you guys” from non-Southerners before, but that one was a new one on me.


27 posted on 02/18/2011 2:02:19 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: DManA

And you wonder why there are Asian Tiger Mothers with the idea that learning is long, slow hard work?


28 posted on 02/18/2011 2:02:37 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: TarponTom
The controlled basic sight and say vocabulary in it's most recent incarnation, was Dr Suess's Cat in a Hat. Probably the first sight and say books were the old Dick and Jane series. The Deliberate Dumbing Down of our great Nation began YEARS ago.

Phonics works and produces good readers and spellers and very few ADD and ADHD problems. By the way , phonemic awareness is not the same thing but allows many teachers to assure parents they are USING phonics in their classrooms. SOUNDS like the same thing doesn't it?

29 posted on 02/18/2011 2:08:22 PM PST by codder too
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice; All
For example, did you know that no English words end with the letters i, u, v and j?

Well, I think I can see why Johnnie still can't read.

30 posted on 02/18/2011 2:20:35 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

**** “It’s an abbreviated form of “y’all”.” *****

Thank you!

That’s what we need to get back to in our Schools, Proper English!

:^) TT


31 posted on 02/18/2011 2:21:49 PM PST by TexasTransplant (I got your Alla Akbar and your 72 Virgins... when ya wanna meet up?)
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To: SwankyC

Thru is, IIRC, a bastardized form of “through.”


32 posted on 02/18/2011 2:27:50 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: DManA

Given a couple of billion [2bn] “1 in 100” is 20 Million.


33 posted on 02/18/2011 2:30:08 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SwankyC
And 'yoni' and 'you' and 'ecru' and 'poi' and 'lei' and 'tofu' and 'ani' and a couple of dozen others.

You need to do more crossword puzzles, quite evidently. Then, likely, you wouldn't make such easily disproved generalisations about English/American spelling.

34 posted on 02/18/2011 2:30:48 PM PST by SAJ (Zerobama -- a phony and a prick, therefore a dildo.)
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To: Jewbacca
We are not native English speakers

A fact which would probably become evident if we heard you speak ... but your writing is indistinguishable (to me) from that of any well educated American.

35 posted on 02/18/2011 2:35:36 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

This isn’t new. This is how I was taught to read in the 50’s. I can assure you that in my fourth grade class only about 10-15% tested below proficiency and all could read.


36 posted on 02/18/2011 2:37:56 PM PST by CholeraJoe ("And if you disagree with me, you are worse than Hitler." Greg Gutfeld)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Thank you very much; to hear (read) that is a relief, as I am very self-concious, in that I don’t really know how I talk differently.

I tend to remain silent in English-speaking company.


37 posted on 02/18/2011 3:22:05 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: teeman8r
you is french...english is ye.

"You" goes back to a dative & accusative form of "ye" (Anglo-Saxon was inflected like Latin and other Indo-European languages). We didn't get any pronouns from French, at least none that comes to mind, but we did get ?they" and "their" from Old Norse (thanks to the Viking settlements in parts of England)--but "them" seems to be of Anglo-Saxon origin.

"Thou" is also a word of Anglo-Saxon origins that ends in -u.

We'll really be in trouble if English is ever forced to return all of its loanwords from other languages.

38 posted on 02/18/2011 3:46:50 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

> “Personally, I’m persuaded that almost no one reads fluently using Sight Words. Many people learn to read with Sight Words in the sense that they use them as a stepping stone, finally seeing the phonics inside the Sight Words. But probably not even one person in 100 has such a retentive memory that they can actually memorize thousands and thousands of Sight Words, and recall them instantly.” <

I think the opposite is true. However they started to read (and I have no problem with phonics as a method of teaching), really fluent readers don’t have time to sound out letters (or even words), not when they are reading hundreds of words a minute. They take in complete words and even phrases at a single glance.

Doing so doesn’t require great intelligence. After all, imagine how many times we have seen most of the words in a typical English sentence. I’m in my sixties now, and I’ve probably seen every word in the previous sentence at least a hundred thousand times. Regular readers of Free Republic have seen most of them a thousand times on this forum alone. Try counting how often words such as ‘we’, ‘have’, ‘seen’, ‘of’, ‘the’, and ‘a’ appear just in the posts of a single day. Even slightly less common words like ‘imagine’, ‘times’, ‘most’, ‘typical’, and ‘sentence’ are easy for fluent readers because we’ve seen them many thousands of times.


39 posted on 02/18/2011 3:48:27 PM PST by GJones2 (Fluency in reading)
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To: goodwithagun
I'll have to bring it to our next English department meeting. They almost gagged when I showed up with THE WELL TRAINED MIND.

What, they don't like kids to be truly EDUCATED? ;o)

40 posted on 02/18/2011 4:22:47 PM PST by SuziQ
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