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HK P30 9mm
Youtube ^ | 19 Feb, 2011 | Hickok45

Posted on 02/19/2011 10:11:52 AM PST by Errant

Yes, I finally got my hands on n H&K pistol, the popular P30 in 9mm. I think you'll enjoy seeing this pistol put through the Hickok45 routine of shooting up close and at some distance.

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KEYWORDS: 9mm; banglist; hk; p30; pistol
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Hickok45 of Youtube fame, FiNALLY evaluates H&K pistol.

For those you have never seen his videos, he is a Glock fan and a great long distance shot with a pistol.

Link to Video (26.41mins)

1 posted on 02/19/2011 10:11:55 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

$1000? Eff that!


2 posted on 02/19/2011 10:34:26 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Errant

I am great at the long distance shot with a $125 CZ 52 LOL


3 posted on 02/19/2011 10:35:50 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

So then what’s the best sub-$500 9mm?


4 posted on 02/19/2011 10:36:39 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

Best is subjective.
You can get a glock, Springfield xd, sig sauer, steyer, S$W..All kinds of great stuff for $500.

There is no reason for that price.


5 posted on 02/19/2011 10:41:16 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Yo-Yo

How do you intend to carry it?

That HK was openly holstered, you can see the holster wear.


6 posted on 02/19/2011 10:42:55 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Yo-Yo
I like this a lot. CZ 75 compact


7 posted on 02/19/2011 10:45:46 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Yo-Yo
Steyers shoot great, if you can find one


8 posted on 02/19/2011 10:47:55 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

I’m liking the XD(M) compact with the full size grip extension magazine. Open carry and concealed carry in a single pistol. But it’s a bit over my price range.

I tend towards a medium sized gun for open carry more than concealed carry.


9 posted on 02/19/2011 10:54:35 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: mylife

It’s an investment that will gain value. My USP is now worth quite a bit more than what I paid for it a dozen years ago.


10 posted on 02/19/2011 10:54:52 AM PST by Errant
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To: Yo-Yo

http://www.gunsamerica.com/973005878/Guns/Pistols/CZ/CZ_75_9mm_Czech_Police_1992_VG_Dept_Issue_Box_1_Mag_CZ75_CZ_75.htm


11 posted on 02/19/2011 10:56:40 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Yo-Yo

That is a good choice because of the way it can be customized.


12 posted on 02/19/2011 10:58:06 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Errant

That’s true of most guns.

Those makarovs and CZ 52s have tripled in value.


13 posted on 02/19/2011 10:59:40 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Yo-Yo

New...

http://www.gunsamerica.com/996342544/Guns/Pistols/CZ/CZ_75B_Omega_Hi_Capacity_9mm_NE.htm


14 posted on 02/19/2011 11:03:51 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Yo-Yo
I've long been a fan of CZ; IMHO, the best made pistols for the money. Of course "shootability" is largely a matter of personal preference, comfort level, and familiarity.

I would say that a number of people who have shot one of mine ended up buying one for themselves :-)

15 posted on 02/19/2011 11:03:55 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Errant

He’s an awesome distance shot. I would never have guessed a duty 9mm like that could deliver such accuracy.


16 posted on 02/19/2011 11:06:13 AM PST by sinanju
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To: Errant
Kahr pm9


17 posted on 02/19/2011 11:18:57 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Errant

The guy’s great! His commentary is both informative and entertaining. It made me hearken back to that History Channel ep about the age of the great trick shooters and their heirs. The vintage clips of them and their showmanship remind me of Hickock45.


18 posted on 02/19/2011 11:47:55 AM PST by sinanju
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To: sinanju
He has many other great videos. If you get the chance, take a look. He's just as accurate when shooting a baby Glock.
19 posted on 02/19/2011 11:53:00 AM PST by Errant
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To: mylife
CZ 52 (Nice!)


20 posted on 02/19/2011 11:59:55 AM PST by Errant
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To: mylife
H&K USP (Nicer!)


21 posted on 02/19/2011 12:02:08 PM PST by Errant
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To: Errant
I love my P30. I've had it for nearly 2 years with around 2500 down the pipe. Here's a pic I took the other day.


22 posted on 02/19/2011 12:13:51 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua
Insignificant wear after 2500 rounds I'd say. I had my USP out in a heavy rain storm for three days. Upon complete dis-assembly, I couldn't find the slightest hint of any staining or discoloration.

The special "HE" (Hostile Environment) finish employed on major metal parts of the HK USP resists even the worst types of corrosion and wear, including prolonged exposure to salt water.

Heckler and Koch USP Introduction

In a SHTF world, don't leave home without it! ;)

23 posted on 02/19/2011 12:35:10 PM PST by Errant
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To: Malsua

BTW, those look like handloads. I reload and have never had a failure to feed in the H&K USP.


24 posted on 02/19/2011 12:37:21 PM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

The 52 is butt ugly, Butt it shoots flat way the hell out there!

BTW I put that same hogue hand all on my CZ 52! LoL! covers up that ugly grip panel/clip arrangement and greatly improves ergonomics.


25 posted on 02/19/2011 1:41:24 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

It oughta, with 1500 to 2000 ft/s rounds! LOL


26 posted on 02/19/2011 1:57:40 PM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

About 1640 fps.

I am in no way comparing the two guns, but ya gotta admit that thing offers a lotta bang for the buck LoL

Barks like a freakin Doberman LOL


27 posted on 02/19/2011 2:07:57 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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♪ You...♫ Light up mylife ♪


28 posted on 02/19/2011 2:16:18 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife
LOL I've never had the pleasure of firing anything in 7.62x25mm but almost everything else up to .50 desert eagle and .454 casull.

I agree it's an excellent value. For a primary handgun in a SHTF world though, I'd prefer something that uses a more common military/police round, (9mm, .40, or .45) and known for exceptional reliability and low maintenance. The more popular and common the gun, the better. This kinda hurts the H&K because there aren't that many out there due to cost, but they are very reliable and low maintenance.

29 posted on 02/19/2011 2:41:16 PM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

All I recommend the CZ 52 for is varmint control and plinking.

Its like a little 223 in your pocket!


30 posted on 02/19/2011 2:44:25 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Errant

For defense I like the 40 S&W


31 posted on 02/19/2011 2:47:20 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

Have you ever heard about the .223 Timbs?


32 posted on 02/19/2011 2:55:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: mylife
Excellent choice! I prefer the big fat .45 but you can't go wrong with a 9mm either.

Probably the most trusted and popular handgun (besides the 1911) is the 9mm Glock 17:


33 posted on 02/19/2011 2:56:54 PM PST by Errant
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BTW, those look like handloads. I reload and have never had a failure to feed in the H&K USP.

I've never had anything but a failure to lock the slide back on the last round on my P30. No other issues at all. It also only happened on S&B ammo, so I'm blaming the ammo.

The ammo in the mag Federal Hydroshok 124gr. I don't handload where I live now due to space limitations. I have reloaded in the past.

I have a CZ-52 as well.

I've had some issues with it then the firing pin broke. It was one of those "unbreakable" firing pins, not a factory pin. I replaced the firing pin with a Harrington CZ-52-2 competition firing pin. I had to mill out the pivot on the extractor so it wouldn't engage the return spring(can be done with a file). I highly recommend everyone do this to their 52s. The trigger goes to around 3 lbs, gets smoother and break much nicer. It "breaks" the decocker, making it a second trigger but who cares, that happens to these 52s anyway when they wear.

34 posted on 02/19/2011 3:14:58 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yes. That would be a hoot!


35 posted on 02/19/2011 3:18:44 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Errant

I love the 45 for regular defense.

I like the 40 because if it was ever a situation were you had to stop a guy at a distance, such as the tucson ahole, it would shoot flat


36 posted on 02/19/2011 3:21:15 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

37 posted on 02/19/2011 3:32:39 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

Serious party favor that.

I just can’t bring myself to get a CZ52... they’re so butt ugly IMO.

Now a C96 “broomhandle” Mauser in .30 Luger.... hmmmmm.

Have you shot a .38 Super? That’s another great cartridge.


38 posted on 02/19/2011 3:39:32 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

No 38 super,I saw a 1911 in that which I should have bought

I do have a chinese C96 mauser in 9mm


39 posted on 02/19/2011 3:42:59 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

Supers are pretty common here, as they were legal for a long time in Mexico. There’s a Cor Bon loading that just about duplicates the performance of the .357 125 grain which is a good stopper. Put it in a Lightweight commander (27 ounces) and you essentially have a 10+1 .357 that kicks like a 9mm.


40 posted on 02/19/2011 3:46:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
The mauser looks like this but has virtually no markings.


41 posted on 02/19/2011 3:49:57 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I should have bought it. I think I have only seen 2 of them.

Both were full size. One was stainless


42 posted on 02/19/2011 3:52:06 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

BTW, I broke the firing pin on that C96 dry firing it *I know.. I am a dolt*

I was really concerned that I would not be able to repair it ,I was unsure of how closely the parts had been copied as yo can tell there was a lot of hand fitting.

I picked up a new firing pin from numerich and it works like a charm.


43 posted on 02/19/2011 3:58:43 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

That’s nicer than the Chinese one’s I’ve seen. Glad Numrich came through for you.

The super is a great cartridge. If you get one earlier than the 70 series, it will be marked Super .38. I had one that was ‘50 vintage, and a early 60’s lightweight.

Sig actually produced a euro version of the P220 in .38 Super with the heel based mag release. It was also sold as the Browning BDA with only about 750 being made for Browning. That’s the one I’m keeping an eye open for.


44 posted on 02/19/2011 4:05:24 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Malsua

I’ve loaded some really low powered .45 rounds to get the noise and recoil down. In the Glock, after firing, I have to manually work the slide to eject the case each time. The HK ejects the spent low powered case every time. With +P rounds, the Glock and Ruger will throw the cases onto the rafters but the HK ejection distance isn’t affected that much.


45 posted on 02/19/2011 4:09:20 PM PST by Errant
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Cool! I want one now. ☺
46 posted on 02/19/2011 4:12:09 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife
I want one now.

My work here is done... < /Lone Ranger>

47 posted on 02/19/2011 4:14:50 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LoL!


48 posted on 02/19/2011 4:15:47 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Yo-Yo

Get the new ruger 9mm high capacity handgun, or find a used springfield armory xd 9MM or a CZ-75 9mm


49 posted on 02/19/2011 4:16:55 PM PST by Armedanddangerous
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To: mylife
I love the 45 for regular defense.

And the same bullets work in my winchester 1892, blackhawk, glock 30, hk usp, future redhawk and thompson!

:)

50 posted on 02/19/2011 4:25:21 PM PST by Errant
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