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BYU Basketball: Brandon Davies Dismissed from BYU for Having Kid on the Way
The Bleacher report ^ | 2 March 2011 | Mick Akers

Posted on 03/02/2011 1:02:29 PM PST by T Minus Four

Ethan Miller/Getty Images It was reported yesterday that BYU starting center Brandon Davies was let go from the team for the remainder of the season for violating Brigham Young's honor code.

Today, 1280 The Zone in Salt Lake City is reporting that Davies' girlfriend is pregnant with his child. The honor code does not allow sexual relationships unless you are married, among a hefty list of other rules.

Davies is averaging 11.1 points per game and a team-high 6.2 rebounds, and not having him available for the NCAA tournament will be a major issue for Mr. Fredette and the Cougars.

If and when they meet up with a big-six conference powerhouse, they will need everything they have down low to bang against the other teams' centers.

BYU's backup centers have not played many meaningful minutes this season and expecting them to do so this late into the season is asking a little too much.

Their sophomore forward, Stephen Rogers, is averaging 4.4 points and 2.3 rebounds in an average of 10 minutes per game. The Cougars' freshman 6'10'' forward/center James Anderson is averaging one point and one-and-a-half rebounds per game in seven minutes of action.

A plan to go with a smaller lineup and to speed their game up more than usual is what BYU is planning on doing with the Davies absence, according to unnamed sources.

Getting away with not having your starting center might fly against the lower seeds, but this all but guarantees they are not going to be able to make a run as deep as many experts have been predicting.

This will also affect their potential seeding in the big dance. As of now they are a projected No. 1 seed, but without one of their key players, the Cougars may fall as low as a No. 3 seed, making the road to the Final Four that much more difficult


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Religion; Sports
KEYWORDS: basketball; byu; college; mormon; utah
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To: T Minus Four

Well, that’s to bad. But rules are rules and BYU has a lot of rules.


2 posted on 03/02/2011 1:06:37 PM PST by svcw (God in His own time not ours)
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To: svcw

Slam dunk allowed only on the court.


3 posted on 03/02/2011 1:08:11 PM PST by JPG (As WI goes, so goes the nation. Thank you, Gov Walker.)
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To: T Minus Four

A rule is a rule. Kudo’s to the school for following through with the rule instead of giving him a pass b/c he is important to the team.

btw. I hope Kentucky gets BYU in the tourney.


4 posted on 03/02/2011 1:08:26 PM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: T Minus Four

enough baby daddies out there destroying our culture..

good for BYU.


5 posted on 03/02/2011 1:10:56 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: T Minus Four

Good for BYU for putting their principles ahead of expediency. That is practically extinct in college sports.


6 posted on 03/02/2011 1:12:00 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: T Minus Four

Condoms could have prevented this. Duh! Is this kid even Mormon?


7 posted on 03/02/2011 1:14:03 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: T Minus Four

Hats off to BYU!


8 posted on 03/02/2011 1:14:25 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: T Minus Four

How/why did he end up at BYU?

Oh well, at least this is acceptable in the NBA.


9 posted on 03/02/2011 1:18:03 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: T Minus Four
He's probably there on a full scholarship and thinks he can get away with anything.
10 posted on 03/02/2011 1:18:03 PM PST by mickie
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To: thefactor
It sounds like a condom might have prevented the pregnancy, but not the violation of the celibacy rules.

-PJ

11 posted on 03/02/2011 1:19:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (In a democracy, you negotiate from the floor of the legislature, not from hideouts and bullhorns.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
at least this is acceptable in the NBA.

you mean it's not mandatory?

12 posted on 03/02/2011 1:20:07 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Political Junkie Too

Well, if every other student on campus is a virgin then you’d have a point. But I don’t think so. He’s not the only one breaking the rules, he’s just the one who got caught.


13 posted on 03/02/2011 1:22:15 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Doesn't matter. When they enroll, they agree to abide by the honor code. If they don't, they're out.

Back in the 1970's, the feminazis got the federalistas to force co-ed housing (same dorm room included) on all campuses accepting any students on any kind of government aid (just about everybody, now).

Only two universities in the entire country stood up to them and took them to court. BYU was one of them.

Hillsdale College in Michigan was the other. Hillsdale eventually took it a step further-- they set up their own student loan and alumni scholarship programs. They won't even accept government money in their tuition mix now so as to remove this as a blackmail tool henceforth and forever. BTW, they are still doing OK. Kids who graduate from Hillsdale tend to be the kind of kids who learn something useful and pay back their loans.

14 posted on 03/02/2011 1:25:47 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

I understand honor codes. I’m just saying that he isn’t the only one violating it. I’m sure there are kids who are expelled for this every year. They just aren’t 6’10” and can hit a jumper.


15 posted on 03/02/2011 1:29:03 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: T Minus Four
Latest Apostate Ping
16 posted on 03/02/2011 1:31:09 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23)
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To: T Minus Four

It’s this type of garbage that had the PAC tell BYU to take a hike when they were begging last year to join the division. PAC invited Utah instead.


17 posted on 03/02/2011 1:40:16 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: T Minus Four

It is good to see some schools have standards. Most universities have zero standards an accept felons and rapists.


18 posted on 03/02/2011 1:43:16 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Garbage? The school is giving the kid a free education and he agreed to the terms. You sound like a lib or a dumb ball game fan who thinks that sports are important. It is a dumb game - get over it.


19 posted on 03/02/2011 1:47:38 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Vigilanteman

My son is a Hillsdale graduate. Best Nickle I ever spent.


20 posted on 03/02/2011 1:50:46 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: T Minus Four
FTA: If and when they meet up with a big-six conference powerhouse, they will need everything they have down low to bang against the other teams' centers.

Wonder if the writer intended to get all Freudian??? Seems like the player has been using the down low to bang against already.

21 posted on 03/02/2011 1:52:05 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T Minus Four

“If and when they meet up with a big-six conference powerhouse, they will need everything they have down low to bang against the other teams’ centers.”

the author must not have been able to help himself.


22 posted on 03/02/2011 1:53:10 PM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: T Minus Four

Davies apparently had scholarship offers from some PAC 10 and Big 10 schools, so there were probably upwards of 100 D1 programs that would have given him a scholarship, where he could have fornicated all he wanted.

I recall several years back (maybe 10 or more) a BYU football player was kicked out (or off the team) for having consensual sex outside of marriage.

As long as BYU is making the rules clear when they recruit these athletes, the school has every right to enforce them.


23 posted on 03/02/2011 1:54:29 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: T Minus Four

Good for BYU standing fast and setting a good example. Too long people have gotten away with violating ethics and morality, especially athletes.


24 posted on 03/02/2011 1:54:40 PM PST by ronnyquest (Barack H. Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: thefactor
"He’s not the only one breaking the rules, he’s just the one who got caught."

Yes, but at most schools staring at a #1 seed, the star center seldom gets "caught" when it comes to breaking a rule.

25 posted on 03/02/2011 1:57:27 PM PST by hometoroost (From Hope and Change to Gropin' Some Strange)
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To: T Minus Four

Mormonism is still a cult, but hats off to BYU in this situation.

On the other hand, if all the BYU students who have been having sex were dismissed from the school, getting into BYU would be a lot easier.


26 posted on 03/02/2011 1:57:37 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: T Minus Four
"If and when they meet up with a big-six conference powerhouse, they will need everything they have down low to bang. . . "

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IMHO the writer is having a little fun here . . .

27 posted on 03/02/2011 1:58:09 PM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: T Minus Four

He should tell them he has several golden tablets, fortelling that his girlfriend will give a virgin birth, but an angel has told him no one else may see the tablets.


28 posted on 03/02/2011 1:59:03 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: 70th Division
I'll bet he's current or paid off on any student loans as well.

They have a fairy small student body too, don't they? Which makes their story all the more remarkable.

29 posted on 03/02/2011 2:01:16 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: thefactor
True, but then why do they call it an "honor" code?

-PJ

30 posted on 03/02/2011 2:03:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (In a democracy, you negotiate from the floor of the legislature, not from hideouts and bullhorns.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Yup he has. He is teacher. Teaching history the RIGHT way. LOL


31 posted on 03/02/2011 2:04:21 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Honor codes are “garbage”?


32 posted on 03/02/2011 2:09:44 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: RightOnTheBorder

>>>>He should tell them he has several golden tablets, fortelling that his girlfriend will give a virgin birth, but an angel has told him no one else may see the tablets.<<<

ROTFL! If his last name were Smith, I’m sure it would work.


33 posted on 03/02/2011 2:10:06 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: SeaHawkFan
...getting into BYU would be a lot easier.

But, getting into a BYU coed would likely become a lot more difficult.

34 posted on 03/02/2011 2:13:32 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: nascarnation

It’s mandatory in the NFL, not as much in the NBA.


35 posted on 03/02/2011 2:26:19 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: svcw

At least they’re not aborting.


36 posted on 03/02/2011 2:29:00 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Vigilanteman
Wasn't Hillsdale the place where the college president was banging his daughter in law?
37 posted on 03/02/2011 2:30:12 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: hometoroost

I have a feeling the people who dismissed him from the team aren’t necessarily basketball fans. Not many of those academic types are.


38 posted on 03/02/2011 2:32:16 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: svcw

I have no problem with the actions of BYU in dismissing this guy. On the other hand, maybe the Mormon church should change the name of the school to something other than the name of a multiple serial adulterer.


39 posted on 03/02/2011 3:11:23 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: starlifter

The very same.


40 posted on 03/02/2011 3:18:31 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: svcw
Brigham Young's honor code.

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A man with this many wives knew nothing of honor.

41 posted on 03/02/2011 4:02:28 PM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Would Joe Smith have gotten kicked out of BYU?


42 posted on 03/02/2011 4:05:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: thefactor
Davies is from Provo,UT... he is also a Mormon.

This is probably going to destroy BYU's basketball recruiting.

They just dumped one of their best players days before the NCAA tournament...


43 posted on 03/02/2011 4:14:37 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: dfwgator

Brigham Young was even worse than Joseph Smith when it came to adultery.


44 posted on 03/02/2011 4:24:32 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan
Hey, he was married to all 55 of them.

But on the other hand, 21 had never been married before; 16 were widows; six were divorced; six had living husbands; and the marital status of six others are unknown.

He fathered 56 children with 16 of the ladies.


45 posted on 03/02/2011 4:42:39 PM PST by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)
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To: svcw

and BYU has a lot of rules.
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Good for BYU for having moral standards and enforcing them!

I surely would like to see our CINO ( Christian In Name Only) private colleges and universities have some standards and enforce them.


46 posted on 03/02/2011 4:54:41 PM PST by wintertime
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To: justice14

Dittos on the rules. BYU has every right to hold its players to the code they espouse. Kudos to them for doing so!


47 posted on 03/02/2011 5:31:46 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: svcw; All
Well, Mormon Church polity/policy on abortion is...
...that if an abortionist says an abortion is "OK"...
...& the Mormon god says it's "OK" after you pray about it...
...then the Mormon god becomes an accessory to murder...
...and it's all "OK!"

What does that have to do with this story?

Sounds to me like if this center's girlfriend had just run thru the proper permission "OKs"...the regional abortionist...and the Mormon god...
Nobody would have been the "wiser"...and the BYU alumni would have been happier!

So. The question is...and it's not an easy question -- 'cause it's been debated about before re: Christian college policies...do such policies encourage abortion???

Certainly the Mormon church abortion polity/policy encourages more "escape loops" than a lot of Christian policies...

48 posted on 03/02/2011 6:53:53 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: svcw; aMorePerfectUnion
The other Q is: WWJSD? (What would Joseph Smith Do?)

Or WWBYD? (What would Brigham Young Do?)

Or WWJTD? (What would John Taylor do?)

Or WWWWD? (What would Wilford Woodruff do?)

Or WWJFSD? (What would Joseph F. Smith do?)

Who are these men? Why they are first five "prophets" of the LDS church.

Do Mormons really think that the first Lds "prophets" who had 119 "wives" between them -- an average of about 24 per...would boot Davis for his pregnant "concubine?"

I mean, the Mormon hypocrisy runs wild.
"Fifth LDS Church leader Joseph F. Smith married at 20 and then married five others later. His first wife divorced him on the grounds of "adulterous intercourse" with his "concubines."
Source Mormon Polygamy Frequently Asked Questions

(Sounds to me like the guy who lied openly before the Senate in the Smoot hearings in 1904 would have been kicked off the first BYU Academy sports team!)

As for the first four Lds "prophets":

* Fourth LDS Church leader Wilford Woodruff had at least 10 plural wives. According to his record, he was also sealed to 336 dead single women.

(Again, nothing like Mormon's e-haremny.com for matching live lds "prophets" with dead corpses!)

* Church founder Joseph Smith had at least 33 wives. One was 14. Five others were 17 or under. He married five pairs of sisters. Two of which were his own adopted daughters. After his death, another 335 women were sealed to him, many of whom he did not know. (Religion and Sexuality, p 156)

(Ah, y'all didn't know that the Family Resource Centers the Mormons put out there could be used genealogically as a e-haremny.com match-making service to match up live women with those ineligible batchelors in the after-life!)

* Second LDS Church leader Brigham Young had 55 wives. Ten of them divorced him. At his death, Brigham Young's oldest child was 52 and his youngest was 7.

* Third LDS Church leader John Taylor had 15 wives. Three wives divorced him. (A Book of Mormons, 1982, pg 354)

(Tell us again how if three wives couldn't "sustain" Taylor as a "husband" how grassroots Mormons were supposed to "sustain" him as their great moral leader?)

49 posted on 03/02/2011 7:15:21 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Minus_The_Bear
I'm curious as to why you think it will destroy their recruiting.

Because they kicked him out? Because they won't get the tv exposure? Won't make it as far in the tourney?

50 posted on 03/02/2011 7:24:10 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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