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Posted on 03/06/2011 2:10:17 PM PST by neverbluffer
Does anyone have any information as to what transpired with the Supremem Court conference yesterday regarding Obama's eligibility?
I have seen nothing and cannot even find information, even on Freerepublic...
Sorry for the spelling typos......
Supremes to Conference on Obama Eligibility
March 4, 2011 9:24:16 AM EST · by Hotlanta Mike · 136 replies
drkatesview ^ | March 3, 2011 | drkate
I think the fellow who filed the case also filed a motion for the “wise latina” and the other one to recuse themselves from the case. This is the last thing I heard.
It sounds like a plot line from a Tom Clancy knock-off but this is the world we now live in.
He went golfing so I assume he’s still prez... LOL!
I imagine that SCOTUS takes Sunday off.
I’m certainly not getting any hopes up. But delays are probably favorable, because they suggest that at least there is some reason why they are not immediately rejecting it.
This subject is so explosive that I’m sure the court is looking at this in utmost secrecy.
I’m sure the court would rather not touch this subject.
Imagine if somehow Obama were declared ineligible and removed from office. Imagine the legal plate of spaghetti that would result. Would all laws and executive orders signed by Obama become null and void?
I’ve heard too, that Congress is supposed to play a role in certifying eligibility of presidential candidates, but that Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not fulfill this routine duty. Did she not do so because she knew of questions about Obama’s eligibility?
Would numerous people be subpoened to testify? Would there be legal liability with them? This subject came up well before the 2008 election, so it’s quite possible that somebody knew something, even before Obama became a candidate for pres.
America was place where the LAW, ruled. How could a Prince get so far down the road with no RIGHTS:
Seems they conference on friday and some results come monday.
I heard that Obozo had them all arrested and jailed.
Funny thing about sarcasm: these days it’s really hard to tell the truth from satire.
Probably went something like this:
Roberts: OK... this has been hanging around like a bad joke. Should we look into this or not?
Alito: Uh... Well... uh. We should, but we might very well be labeled...uh...
Thomas: Racists. I’ve been called worse.
Sotomayor and Kagan in unison: You all are racists for even CONSIDERING looking into this!
Kagan: I’ve been through this already. There’s a reason so much $$ has been spent on this. It’s none of the Supreme Court’s business anyway. In fact, My homie...errr... I mean the Fuhrer...errr.. I mean President Obama has plans for us. He has decided he knows better what the Constitution says, and I for one trust him. He’s such a wonderful man and...
Roberts: Ok - but we still should at least LOOK at the allegations. We can bring this all to a nice close.
Sotomayor: If we open this can of worms, there will be rioting in the streets because of you racists..
Roberts: Ok, Case Closed
You asked: “Does anyone have any information as to what transpired with the Supreme Court conference yesterday regarding Obama’s eligibility?”
Look for something to be published tomorrow. More than likely “Denied.”
IF, IF the SCOTUS grants the motion for recusal and writ of certiorari, then the case will be docketed for oral argument.
I’m expecting the cowards to deny the recusal and writ of certiorari.... as all the other cases.
Wait until he discovers that golf was invented in Scotland and we know how he feels about the Brits.
I seriously doubt that anyone with even a scintilla of authority has sufficient gonads to challenge this interloping POS. My only hope and wish is that someone, someday has the nerve to explain this national failing in a history book. I seriously doubt that will happen though and note that the wussification and its attendant political correctness continues apace in this one great land. I know the answer to the questions that have been raised in this matter as most of you do but I can assure you that there is no light of truth just around the corner.
SCOTUS blog says there will be statement on Monday (or Tue. or Wed. etc.)
“Im sure the court would rather not touch this subject.”
I find this line of reasoning hard to understand.
Suppose the tables were turned. We have a wonderful right wing President in office who we have reason to believe is NOT a US citizen. And a Supreme Court mostly staffed with left wing social activists.
They’d be chomping at the bit to touch this subject!
If I were a Supreme Court justice I’d be ecstatic to handle this first-time-in-history constitutional emergency. I’d have no desire to sit it out or hope it goes away. I’d be eager to adjudicate! Why did I go into law? I’d be making historical precedent with nation-molding effects. I’d grab at the chance!
Sooner or later we will have to know.
Are they still screwing around based on a missing BC when all they have to do is study who his pappy is? He never was a US citizen.
I think that our politicians on both sides of the aisle are doing everything in their power to bury this controversy hoping that it will die by itself.
What a shameless dereliction of duty.
Well done. I’m afraid to say I think the scenario you describe is likely to be much closer to the truth of what actually happens in these conferences than most of us would want to imagine.
What does it take to get people to sit up and take notice and start asking questions? I am getting to be so frustrated with our lack of progress on this that I could soon decide to remove myself from political involvement altogether and just think of myself as living in a dictatorship where the peasantry is denied any voice in politics. At least that way I would be less disappointed and less surprised by the constant failing of our government and the press it now seems to rule over.
Wouldn’t life would be simpler and easier if I just put my head down and paid my taxes and resisted the urge to read the news?
Depressed rant over/
Great perspective. Because of its utter importance to the future of the nation, this case would mark the apex of a career of deciding close disputes over proper interpretation of the Constitution.
In my view this case would be no different than interpreting the intent of the parties to a contract that has ambiguous or missing terms. And for that reason, I believe the two citizen parent requirement of the NBC clause would prevail.
There are few if any cases that come before the Supreme Court that involve such a clear cut issue as the eligibility requirement to be President of the United States. Everyone is watching and waiting to see what the justices decide to do, and that includes that man in the White House.
Barak Obama has anticipated such a possible decision by SCOTUS and supplied himself with a bolt-hole using our tax dollars, natch.
Kenya rewrote its national constitution during the past two years and Obama provided that nation with millions of our dollars with which to do so (the amount was somewhere between 10-20 million; I forget the exact amount). One change was the eligibility requirement for President of Kenya, so that Obama would be eligible.
Now, why would he do that unless he expected to have to leave the United States?
Once there in Kenya he would be able to announce to the world that he had decided to return to being a devout Muslim. This declaration would inoculate him from charges of infidelity (his biggest concern would be protecting himself from all those angry Muslims who gave him huge amounts of money to overthrow the U.S. government and make it Muslim).
Will he have money problems? I believe, according to some sources, that he and Michelle have been hiding money overseas, so poverty will not be a concern.
Yes, I think it quite likely Obama would go splitsville, jetting out of the U.S. and straight to Africa. He would no longer trust the Secret Service, and his own cowardice and paranoia would force him to leave in a hurry so as not to be arrested, tried, and executed.
I pray that you are correct. Really hard, I’m praying!
Saw someone in a store yesterday wearing a zero t-shirt.
The swhtf if zero is declared ineligible... national rioting/looting/burning by the won’s supporters...
It will be a miracle if the law is upheld.
You are %100 correct!
This would be a can of worms from hell.
Obama found ineligible would not have been able to legally select his running mate, Biden.
All cabinet members would be null and void as well as ALL judge appointments(2 on SCOTUS)
All laws and executive orders, null and void.
Personally as a taxpayer would demand restitution of all costs incurred from legal fee’s to use of Air Force one including the vacations and parties at the WH.
Then there’s the question of the chain of command order of succession. The constitution never figured on such a scenario and always assumed for a qualified candidate.
Since Biden couldn’t legally ascend would it then become John Boehner as President (could live with that for 2 years no prob)
Next would be to try and sort out the accomplices.
Nancy Pelosi? All 50 sec of state?
I’d bet the judges that have been presented with these cases have all pondered these very same ramifications realizing that opening up this can, especially this late into the game just isn’t worth it. Essentially for the same reason that after Clinton was impeaches was never punished, for the good of the country.
There is movement afoot in state legislatures to pass legislation demanding neccessary proof of qualifications for candidacy. Obama will be faced with 2 options. Release his records to run for re-election, or keep them hidden and not be allowed to run again and most likely bow out for health reasons or some BS.
Hypothetically lets say he decides to release his records, what do they show?
A) he is in fact a natural born American citizen.
B) he is NOT a natural born citizen.
C) he is a natural born citizen who fraudulently received grants/monies to attend the colleges that his transcripts would show.
There has to be a link why both the birth certificate and transcripts are both being kept locked away and the truth probably is somewhere between answers b and c. NOBODY is going to spend the kind of money he has in legal fees to keep these records hidden unless there is some very damning info contained therein.
So, assuming he releases those records and hopes for the best, what have we got?
A) Born in Kenya, case closed.
B) Proof he committed fraud.
either way he loses.
If the eligibility story had been a novel, it would have been so ridiculous, most people would have trashed the book in the before reading half of it.
Truth really can be stranger than fiction.
National Reset Button
Open that can of worms and then stomp on them.
Yep, lets rock and let the early bird eat..
The formerly Supreme Court already knows Hussein is ineligible, because by his own admission he is the son of a British citizen and ineligible no matter where he was born.
Hussein will remain dictator until Jan.20, 2013.
He’s the right shade of tan to be untouchable.
If this were to be seen by the supreme court, would Kagan and Sotomayor be allowed to be involved in this case? If he were not legit, their nominations would not be legit. Just a thought.
weren't they both confirmed by the US Senate?
That's what makes or breaks a candidate.
I'm sure that there are some members of the USSC that are getting
tired of the BHO admin defying Federal court orders, and laws
made by Congress have not been deemed unconstitutional by the Court.
Not to mention the petty personal insults from the messiah himself.
They may finally get around to doing they their Constitutional duty.
Has anybody thought about how someone tried to get out of the situation by saying the motion was just a request? Doesn't that strike you odd that anyone with a remote acquaintance with the law would try to brush off a motion by repackaging it as just a request?
Perhaps someone with integrity decided that was just way too lame even for lawyers, so they decided to re-conference.
That said, the integrity will probably stop there. They will have to deny the motion and then deny the writ without comment of course. To do otherwise would shake the nation. The Supreme Ct has more important things to do, like deciding if a bunch of idiots can yell at a funeral or not.
We are all becoming a bunch of cynical people aren't we.
Open that can of worms and LET’S GO FISHIN!
Anyone who knowingly aided and abetted him would be guilty of treason.
They'd be subject to the most appropriate punishment.
I’m sure Kagan and Sotomayor would do just as they please and not recuse themselves, after all, they’re liberals and they’re above question! (SuperSarcasm)
These cowards on the court will never rule on any of this.
We are truly a banana republic run by an illegal dictator.
God help us all survive until his removal in 2013.
Do not think that people in the “know” don’t know the truth? Yes, they have a responsiblity to the constitution but just think of the ramifications, and there are many. The first and most dangerous being the removal from office of the first black POTUS. There is no way this will ever happen, it would be equal to a lynching in the minds of many.
So, assuming he releases those records and hopes for the best, what have we got?
A) Born in Kenya, case closed.
B) Proof he committed fraud.
either way he loses.
You are not thinking deviously enough.
There is a third possibility — Obama’s father is a married US citizen who had a dalliance with Obama’s mother; they brought in Obama Sr. for a sham marriage to make Obama legit. And the (sealed) birth certificate names the married man.
Obama would do anything to prevent that truth from becoming public — his public persona (e.g., Dreams from my Father) could not recover this hit.
“... Sotomayor: If we open this can of worms, there will be rioting in the streets because of you racists..”
Roberts: OK you commie slum ‘itch - “Lets dew iet” said William to HIS homies. And let not one of the traitors escape our rath. To the ramparts brothers !!
CIA files show Obama’s father was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
“Open that can of worms and LETS GO FISHIN!”
I’m thinking that if SCOTUS refuses to bring forth this case, which to my way of thinking is very compelling and right on target when the challenge presented to SCOTUS in the brief that they would be violating their oath to protect and defend the Constitution, then any case which would come before SCOTUS in the future could be argued that SCOTUS has no juristiction to hear any more cases since they won’t honor the Constitution.
Pardon the run-on sentence.
I believe Obama withholds the documentation for political gain alone. He can point at the "Birthers" as his own "vast right wing conspiracy" and diminish his opposition by dismissing them as kooks.
But let's say SCOTUS discovered the long form doesn't support Obama's qualification for the presidency. BOOM! Immediate constitutional crisis. Is anything he's done "legal," are the very members of the court he nominated valid? Legislation? Treaties? Appointments? It's a nightmare that SCOTUS would prefer to avoid.
They've been here before. They got into Clinton's mess by saying a sitting president can be used for wrongdoing done before he reached the office. It seemed reasonable and yet BOOM constitutional crisis because the SOB LIED under OATH! How could they have predicted it?
Then in 2000 they faced Bush vs. Gore. They had no choice but to sort that mess out but it tainted the perception of the court and undermined the Bush presidency from day 0. The "selected not elected" lie is not something he ever recovered from even after 9/11.
Further, they have to look closely at what "natural born citizen" means. I personally don't have faith SCOTUS would go for an interpretation that requires citizen parents these days.
It's all amplified by prospect of potentially removing the first (half) black president and perhaps doing so with a 7 member court.
Expect the same result as previous requests: Scalia, Thomas & Alito will vote in favor but Roberts will prevent it from going further. He chose sides 2 years ago when he swore in the usurper and isn’t going to risk everything now.
Doesn’t even matter if the two lesbos recuse themselves, Chief Justice will just hide behind the “Rule of Four”.
So how did Obama get an American passport the first time?
Is it possible that Obama did not have to present a long form birth certificate---especially an Hawaii long form birth certificate---like most passport applications have to do when Obama obtained his American passport?
My reason for asking the question above is this: During the presidential campaign, I read a theory on how Obama could have obtained an American passport without presenting a long form Hawaii birth certificate. The theory was written by a poster on an Israel website.
His theory went something like this:
Way back then when Obama was under 18 years of age, if a child was first listed on his parent's passport, he could apply for and easily obtain his OWN passport by claiming that he had already been listed on his parent's passport.
That is, a person like Obama could easily obtain an American passport without having to provide all the necessary documents, like a long form birth certificate, that most passport applications have to provide.
According to the poster, once Obama obtained that first passport, all he had to do to keep his American passport up to date was to make sure that he renewed it whenever the renewal time came up.
In other words, Obama---under the poster's theory---could have continually renewed his American passport without ever providing a long form birth certificate, the one with the names of the doctor and the birth hospital, because he had originally been listed on his mother's American passport.
I don't know much about American passport regulations, so I don't know if the poster's Obama passport theory is possible.
NOTE: I recently read that at one point, Obama's mother petitioned the passport office to take Obama off of her passport.
If true, then it means that at one point Obama was indeed listed on his mother's passport, but it also brings up the interesting and intriguing question as to why Obama's mother wanted to take Obama's name off of her passport when Obama was still very young, she was still married to Indonesian citizen Soetoro, and Obama was traveling between Hawaii and Indonesia.
And, more importantly, it brings up this question: If Obama was taken off of his mother's passport when he was still very young and traveling between Hawaii and Indonesia, then when did very young Obama get his OWN American passport so that he could continue to travel back and forth between Hawaii and Indonesia, where very young Obama moved in order to be with his mother and stepfather Soetoro?
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