Posted on 03/06/2011 2:10:17 PM PST by neverbluffer
Does anyone have any information as to what transpired with the Supremem Court conference yesterday regarding Obama's eligibility?
I have seen nothing and cannot even find information, even on Freerepublic...
Do not think that people in the “know” don’t know the truth? Yes, they have a responsiblity to the constitution but just think of the ramifications, and there are many. The first and most dangerous being the removal from office of the first black POTUS. There is no way this will ever happen, it would be equal to a lynching in the minds of many.
So, assuming he releases those records and hopes for the best, what have we got?
A) Born in Kenya, case closed.
B) Proof he committed fraud.
either way he loses.
You are not thinking deviously enough.
There is a third possibility — Obama’s father is a married US citizen who had a dalliance with Obama’s mother; they brought in Obama Sr. for a sham marriage to make Obama legit. And the (sealed) birth certificate names the married man.
Obama would do anything to prevent that truth from becoming public — his public persona (e.g., Dreams from my Father) could not recover this hit.
“... Sotomayor: If we open this can of worms, there will be rioting in the streets because of you racists..”
Roberts: OK you commie slum ‘itch - “Lets dew iet” said William to HIS homies. And let not one of the traitors escape our rath. To the ramparts brothers !!
OR
CIA files show Obama’s father was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
“Open that can of worms and LET’S GO FISHIN!”
TALLY HO!!
I’m thinking that if SCOTUS refuses to bring forth this case, which to my way of thinking is very compelling and right on target when the challenge presented to SCOTUS in the brief that they would be violating their oath to protect and defend the Constitution, then any case which would come before SCOTUS in the future could be argued that SCOTUS has no juristiction to hear any more cases since they won’t honor the Constitution.
Pardon the run-on sentence.
I believe Obama withholds the documentation for political gain alone. He can point at the "Birthers" as his own "vast right wing conspiracy" and diminish his opposition by dismissing them as kooks.
But let's say SCOTUS discovered the long form doesn't support Obama's qualification for the presidency. BOOM! Immediate constitutional crisis. Is anything he's done "legal," are the very members of the court he nominated valid? Legislation? Treaties? Appointments? It's a nightmare that SCOTUS would prefer to avoid.
They've been here before. They got into Clinton's mess by saying a sitting president can be used for wrongdoing done before he reached the office. It seemed reasonable and yet BOOM constitutional crisis because the SOB LIED under OATH! How could they have predicted it?
Then in 2000 they faced Bush vs. Gore. They had no choice but to sort that mess out but it tainted the perception of the court and undermined the Bush presidency from day 0. The "selected not elected" lie is not something he ever recovered from even after 9/11.
Further, they have to look closely at what "natural born citizen" means. I personally don't have faith SCOTUS would go for an interpretation that requires citizen parents these days.
It's all amplified by prospect of potentially removing the first (half) black president and perhaps doing so with a 7 member court.
Expect the same result as previous requests: Scalia, Thomas & Alito will vote in favor but Roberts will prevent it from going further. He chose sides 2 years ago when he swore in the usurper and isn’t going to risk everything now.
Doesn’t even matter if the two lesbos recuse themselves, Chief Justice will just hide behind the “Rule of Four”.
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So how did Obama get an American passport the first time?
Is it possible that Obama did not have to present a long form birth certificate---especially an Hawaii long form birth certificate---like most passport applications have to do when Obama obtained his American passport?
My reason for asking the question above is this: During the presidential campaign, I read a theory on how Obama could have obtained an American passport without presenting a long form Hawaii birth certificate. The theory was written by a poster on an Israel website.
His theory went something like this:
Way back then when Obama was under 18 years of age, if a child was first listed on his parent's passport, he could apply for and easily obtain his OWN passport by claiming that he had already been listed on his parent's passport.
That is, a person like Obama could easily obtain an American passport without having to provide all the necessary documents, like a long form birth certificate, that most passport applications have to provide.
According to the poster, once Obama obtained that first passport, all he had to do to keep his American passport up to date was to make sure that he renewed it whenever the renewal time came up.
In other words, Obama---under the poster's theory---could have continually renewed his American passport without ever providing a long form birth certificate, the one with the names of the doctor and the birth hospital, because he had originally been listed on his mother's American passport.
I don't know much about American passport regulations, so I don't know if the poster's Obama passport theory is possible.
NOTE: I recently read that at one point, Obama's mother petitioned the passport office to take Obama off of her passport.
If true, then it means that at one point Obama was indeed listed on his mother's passport, but it also brings up the interesting and intriguing question as to why Obama's mother wanted to take Obama's name off of her passport when Obama was still very young, she was still married to Indonesian citizen Soetoro, and Obama was traveling between Hawaii and Indonesia.
And, more importantly, it brings up this question: If Obama was taken off of his mother's passport when he was still very young and traveling between Hawaii and Indonesia, then when did very young Obama get his OWN American passport so that he could continue to travel back and forth between Hawaii and Indonesia, where very young Obama moved in order to be with his mother and stepfather Soetoro?
Any thoughts?
If Obama does become a one term president, his bona fides will be protected better than anything.
“It’s a nightmare that SCOTUS would prefer to avoid.”
I know that’s the prevailing theory, I just question it. I think we have type A people on the Supreme Court who would love to make history.
Here it says the Supreme Court takes a break on the 7th.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/mar/07/us-ap-national-news-calendar/
The Order List has been published as of this morning, Mar 7. I can get to the SCOTUS web site but cannot get into the order list.
Rehearing denied. No comment.
Denied. See post #59.
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