Posted on 03/07/2011 1:44:47 PM PST by wendy1946
There is no nothingness between the galaxies. If I remember correctly, the space generally has about 1 molecule per cubic centimeter of matter.
There is also a lot of stuff that is not visible at normal wavelengths. I think Uranametria 2000 startcharts have incorporated radio telescope findings with the visible light results from the Hubble telescope. Vast fields of dust and electrons. IIRC, the last edition is the one with the radio objects.
It is really facscinating. Lots of stuff out there.
The bang was an expansion of space, ie. the expansion of the dimension in which something can be placed. It was not an explosion that would have had to overcome the mass of the black hole.
All of the evidence dictates that the universe had a specific beginning and did not previously exist and is not eternal.
Because of this, we can only see a part of the universe and a recent paper (within the last three months) suggests that for all practical purposes we will only be able to see about 8% of the universe.
Watch the videos. The ONLY evidence there ever was for a big bang was a wrong interpretation of cosmic redshift as recession velocity and hence expansion, and Arp's findings just kill that.
There are also other possibilities for this photo.
1. There is an unassociated dust cloud that is between us and the galaxy and it is lit by light coming to us from the galaxy.
2. Radio wavelengths have been incorporated in the picture in the form of dust.
3. There is a dustcloud associated to the galaxy and it is being excited to a maser state. (Sort of like a laser).
Do you know what galaxy that is or it’s position? I can find out more about it if you can provide the information.
Space does not expand or contract. What 'one foot' or 'one yard' means today is exactly what it meant yesterday and what it will mean tomorrow. All of this junk physics we've been listening to all our lives is in the process of going away. You've even got one guy (Hatch) with a dozen or more GPS patents who claims that GPS runs on Newtonian physics and that they're having to work AROUND relativity, not with it.
That’s NGC-7603. It shows two galaxies and two quasars connected by an obvious and visible stream of material with the cosmic objects centered in the stream. The chances of that happening via any sort of coincidence are basically zero. Again the objects are clearly part and parcel of the same thing and they have substantially differing redshifts.
To the contrary, they give off Hawking Radiation. As a result of which, the mass of the black hole decreases. Q.E.D., things CAN, and do, get out of a black hole.
As for the theology portion of the equation, I would not presume to say definitively how God did or didn't do anything. The Big Bang Theory was created to explain a set of objective observations at the time. As we accumulate additional information and understanding, we will modify theory to fit the observations. Improving our understanding of the universe we live in merely brings us closer to understanding the mind of God, such as we are able.
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Thanks for the id. I thought I recognized it.
So you dispute that the various objects, say galaxy to galaxy, are not moving in relation to each other?
I will watch the videos. They look interesting.
Your argument: it’s strawmen, all the way down.
Obviously, the universe is not expanding. We are all shrinking.
Smacks of Mormonism to me.
ONE BIG PROBLEM.
The Bible. “In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth”. It doesn't say “in the beginning there was no beginning for the Heavens always existed.”
Seems you are putting creation as equivalent to the creator, and removing the creator as the actual creator - sort of a coexistant facet of eternal reality - but not the creator of that universe and reality.
Tell me something, how is it that when the astronomers focus their telescope to 14 or 15 billion teasr ago, they are sure they’re not seeing the same galaxies which they saw when they focused at 4 billion years ago?
Long story, but in the beginning on this planet you couldn't see stars due to the nature of the pre-flood system. Again the idea of God creating the entire universe 6000 years ago doesn't pass any sort of a sniff test for basic logic and I assume God created us logic-capable for a reason.
Some more than others apparently.
Gods ways are not our ways. Trying to figure out how the universe is based upon your interpretation of what God would and would not do is a fools errand from the beginning!
Oh, there is that word again....
“In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth”
not...
“There was no beginning because God and the Universe always existed and therefore God did not create the heavens, they always existed.”
The equipment gives a good indication of the red shift of the spectrum. It is very obvious when you look at a spectrum of the galaxy.
The apparent size of the galaxies are also smaller because they are farther away. Hahahhaha
You actually believe God created the entire universe 6000 years ago, and, if so, your explanation for our seeing light (from stars and galaxies) which would take millions or billions of years to get to us assuming it travels at C??
I believe that God created the entire universe and evidence suggests it was many billions of years ago and nothing in the Bible says that the universe is only a few thousand years old.
How do you suggest that God “created” a universe that always existed?
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