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Urgent a 2000 Year Old Radiation Warning
Free Republic ^ | 03/14/11 | self

Posted on 03/14/2011 2:35:03 PM PDT by STD

Dear FReepers,

Most of you know from experience that re-reading God's Word frequently causes us to reevaluate our lives out of a new, or fresh revelation we get from the scriptures. We are tempted to look for prophetic interpretations that don't become relevent until such a time as God decides that they should become known to us. Earlier today, I was reading an FR post about Matthew 24. It's the great warning chapter, which outlines what we are to watch out for at the beginning of the Last Days. It talks about wars, earthquakes and false messians; nothing new here folks. Of course, we have just finished the 20th Centuary the most war plagued time in man's history, so rumors of wars is nothing new. However, what really stimulates the thinking mind these days is the recent disasterous earthquakes in Japan, Indonesia, Haiti and Chile.

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As many of us watch the Japanese disaster unfold on TV, the temptation to search for meaning out of such a tragic loss of life and chaos is overwhelming. The search for significance and application becomes important. I want to see Jesus in the whirlwild. So, here He is front and center, Sisters & Brothers.

According to wikipedia the City of Fukushima is named after the life giving substance of 'mothers milk' The City of Mother's Milk is also noted for an annual 'fire festival' celebrated in Febuary to bring back the warmth and life giving rays of sun. (empathis mine)

For awile, I have wondered about Matt 24 and the significance of the warning given by Jesus specifically to pregnant women. I can see the answer now as clearly as a 'stop sign' at the street corner. Radiation contaminates large areas like freshly fallen snow. By going downstairs into flooded buildings to gather food and clothing, people are gathering up irradiated material. Mother's milk today in an era where less than half of all mothers actually breast feed is not a universal situation. However, once supplies of formula are depleted the temptation to breastfeed newborns would be a very powerful one.

Radiation poisoning occurs primarily by direct contact and ingestion of contaminated foodstuffs. It's concentrated attached to calcium molecules selectively absorbed by mothers that are breastfeeding. It then becomes a dangerous contaminant thats readily absorbed by infants. The radioactive calcium in mother's milk becomes part of the child's boney skeleton. Pregnant women in the first trimester and those breastfeeding newborns are especially vulnerable to radiation. ( thus this very timely warning from Jesus )

Just to make sure that His people wouldn't miss the significance of this dire warning, Jesus made sure that the label of Fukushima or 'mother's milk' would be appeciated by everyone watching the news. He attached the name to both the city and also to the actual power plant. The group of six Tokyo Power Company reactors are known as Fukushima Dai-ichi, or Mother's Milk Power Plant.

These are the actual reactors that are leaking radiation. Jesus labelled Fukushima, or Mother's Milk in order to protect the least of these. Your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has placed a vivid label on the entire mess and has warned us all of the terrible danger radiation is to newborn babes.

At one time, I suspected Matt. 24 it might have a connection to chemical weapons, or radiation released during the many wars and conflicts that Jesus said would accompany the beginning of sorrows in Matt 24.

So, today in your sight yet another prophecy is furfilled by a soveirgn loving God and an all powerful King. We can rest with the complete knowledge that whatever disaster that's surely coming our way God is still upon the throne and great. In perfect control of events. He warns us to avoid breastfeeding and radiation. So, pass the word of warning to everyone you know.

Matthew 24:1-35 and Modern Times [Vanity]

1. Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings.

2. “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

3. As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

4. Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.

5. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

6. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.

7. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.

8. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9. “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

10. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,

11. and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

12. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,

13. but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

14. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15. “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—

16. then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

17. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house.

18. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak.

19. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!

20. Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

21. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22. “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

23. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it.

24. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

25. See, I have told you ahead of time.

26. “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.

27. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

28. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29. “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

30. “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory

31. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32. “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.

33. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.

34. Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

35. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

Please Pray for Japan, DrMike

1 posted on 03/14/2011 2:35:09 PM PDT by STD
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To: STD

Except there is no meaning radiation leaking


2 posted on 03/14/2011 2:36:52 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: STD

Pretty amazing.


3 posted on 03/14/2011 2:39:03 PM PDT by Errant
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To: STD
Jesus was talking about the fall of Jerusalem in AD70.

Please stop trying to overlay modern interpretations on the context of Jesus' day.

4 posted on 03/14/2011 2:40:23 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: STD
However, once supplies of formula are depleted the temptation to breastfeed newborns would be a very powerful one.

Also not immediately available. You can't turn breast milk on and off with a faucet.

5 posted on 03/14/2011 2:40:57 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: STD

Where is this ‘coming’ he promised?
Ever since our fathers died,
everything goes on as it has
since the beginning of creation.


6 posted on 03/14/2011 2:42:20 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: STD

“Jesus labelled Fukushima, or Mother’s Milk in order to protect the least of these. “

There’s enough plain truth in the Bible - no need to delve into this, excuse me, but half-crazed secret message seeking.


7 posted on 03/14/2011 2:43:30 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: backwoods-engineer
"Jesus was talking about the fall of Jerusalem in AD70."

Nonsense. How would you reconcile your claim with His statement, " For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again."? Never to be equaled again? So, according to your explanation, there has never from AD70 until the present day been a time more perilous for the world than during the fall of Jerusalem?

Sorry; doesn't compute.

8 posted on 03/14/2011 2:45:30 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Sherman Logan

no kidding Sherm


9 posted on 03/14/2011 2:46:18 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I would say that that is a minority opinion. You’re going to have to give a good argument to convince people here otherwise on that one.


10 posted on 03/14/2011 2:49:50 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
He's talking to people gathered on rooftops after a tsunami;

24:16. then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

24:17. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house.

11 posted on 03/14/2011 2:51:55 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Bingo. “Uh oh, I need to start breast-feeding my 8-month-old baby. What’s WRONG with these things?”


12 posted on 03/14/2011 2:52:18 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: STD

Umm... you do realize that when you’re trying to flee, having to carry a baby (in your arms or in your belly) makes it hard to run fast, don’t you?

YOu don’t need to find exotic meanings when ordinary ones suffice.


13 posted on 03/14/2011 2:54:24 PM PDT by dangus
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To: La Lydia

well, timing is always a great thing. I’m certain that without prompt stimulation prolactin would not be stimulated to cause the breasts to produce milk. Is that what you’re talking about Mam?


14 posted on 03/14/2011 2:57:20 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Jesus was talking about the fall of Jerusalem in AD70.

Yes. All of that happened during the 40 years (generation) after Jesus gave up his life to those who crucified him. It was a horrible time for pregnant and nursing women during the destruction of Jerusalem. People were starving and a woman was even reported to have slain the child at her breast for food. These events prophesied were accounted for in 70AD. I don't want to be looking for that kind of history to repeat itself!
15 posted on 03/14/2011 2:57:20 PM PDT by ljswisc
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To: dangus

absolutely, whats to argue about there?


16 posted on 03/14/2011 2:58:26 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: noiseman

Many times in scripture there is an immediate fulfillment and future fulfillmint. I believe Matthew 24 follows this pattern.


17 posted on 03/14/2011 2:58:32 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: noiseman

Acts 13:41 (New International Version)

41 “‘Look, you scoffers,
wonder and perish,
for I am going to do something in your days
that you would never believe,
even if someone told you.’[a]”


18 posted on 03/14/2011 3:01:03 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: STD

Alrighty then.

It’s a total stretch to see a nuclear plant in Mt. 24. Wow, that’s like a drug-induced interpretation of that passage.


19 posted on 03/14/2011 3:01:51 PM PDT by lurk
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To: STD

Yes. Women can’t just lactate at will any old time they decide they need to do so. Certain things have to happen first, physically. And that is all I am comfortable discussing with a man.


20 posted on 03/14/2011 3:03:16 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: STD

Weren’t you babbling some wierd nonsense about the verse referring to nuclear contaminants?


21 posted on 03/14/2011 3:03:50 PM PDT by dangus
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To: STD

22 posted on 03/14/2011 3:07:19 PM PDT by WackySam (To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.)
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To: ljswisc
That would be an OK argument IF Jesus had not added, "... unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again."

It's the "...never to be equaled again" part that makes the argument that he was referring to what was to come in 70 AD illogical. "Never" is pretty exclusive and implies for all time to follow. To make your argument you have to somehow assert that the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD was the worst event ever to befall humanity, and the worst that it would ever experience forever after that. I don't think that makes much sense.

24 posted on 03/14/2011 3:09:34 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: La Lydia

What... the baby? or those things?


25 posted on 03/14/2011 3:09:51 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: STD

There is not enough radiation loose in Japan to cause ANY radiation sickness, at this point. Even though the media is all atwitter about the sailors on the USS Ronald Reagan being ‘exposed to radiation’, it turns out, the levels were just barely above typical ‘background’ radiation, and were not dangerous, at all.


26 posted on 03/14/2011 3:10:55 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Quix
*PING*

Freepmail coming.

27 posted on 03/14/2011 3:13:03 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Quix
*PING*

Freepmail coming.

28 posted on 03/14/2011 3:13:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dangus

The idea that Matthew 24 (and in some cases the rest of biblical prophecy) was fulfilled in AD 70 is called Preterism. It is a false doctrine that was put forth by the Society of Jesus to combat the protestant reformation. The early church fathers (both those who predated the founding of the Catholic church and those who were part of it) looked forward to fulfillment of prophecy. This is abundantly clear in all their writings.

While there is room for a good amount of disagreement in the spirit on the details of eschatology, these are all disagreements that focus on the future fulfillment of prophecy. For instance, I don’t believe in a pre-tribulation rapture but certainly won’t fault anyone who does (and probably hope that they are right and I’m wrong to boot!).

Preterism, on the other hand, is outright heresy.


29 posted on 03/14/2011 3:14:00 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: STD

“Oh, really dagus? With a name like dangus, you surely know much about babbling. You goofus dangus”

Something’s definitely happened with/to FR these days. Seems like many posters itch now to denigrate others. I can believe some of them are recently activated mole trolls to save Hussein’s sorry hide, but can we please be reasonable and respectful so the real trolls are still as easy to spot?


30 posted on 03/14/2011 3:15:41 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: STD; blasater1960

Doesn’t sound like nuclear fallout.
I did find this verse interesting

20. Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

The Sabbath. Saturday. Commandment commanded by YHWH as the day of rest for Jews, of which Jesus was a practicing Jew his entire life. Looks like confirmation that he never intended for the Saturday Sabbath to be changed, altered or replaced.


31 posted on 03/14/2011 3:17:24 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
exactly, now look at verse 25

See, I have told you ahead of time.

32 posted on 03/14/2011 3:22:14 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: treetopsandroofs
"Something’s definitely happened with/to FR these days. Seems like many posters itch now to denigrate others."

I've noticed the same thing lately, particularly with the use of profanity (though I can certainly understand the capacity of a certain community organizer to provoke it). We don't want to start looking like DU, whose posts appear to be composed of random sentence fragments from various Richard Pryor routines.

33 posted on 03/14/2011 3:22:19 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: STD
the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

That's gonna be a very big blast! lol

34 posted on 03/14/2011 3:22:38 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: backwoods-engineer
Jesus was talking about the fall of Jerusalem in AD70.

Bingo. Hard to explain verse 34 otherwise:

34. Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

35 posted on 03/14/2011 3:23:34 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: STD

Really, I think he knows I’m playing around?


36 posted on 03/14/2011 3:25:29 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: xjcsa
"Bingo."

You must have heard "B-7" when "I-24" was called, because there is no Bingo here. Jesus was referring to the generation that would be alive at the time that the event that his fig tree parable refers to would occur. It is widely believed that this parable refers to the rebirth of the nation of Israel (which occurred in 1948).

37 posted on 03/14/2011 3:27:46 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: SuziQ
There is not enough radiation loose in Japan to cause ANY radiation sickness, at this point.

That point is about to be moved east a bit.

38 posted on 03/14/2011 3:29:51 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Yet_Again

Well, that’s good because I’m not a preterist.

Prophecies in the bible were written about signs that the prophet saw happening, and which the prophet realized revealed indicated something about a future event. Therefore, the writings of Revelation were inspired by the fall of Jerusalem, but are relevant today (and were considered relevant when they were included in the biblical canon) because they DO tell us something about the future.

Therefore, learning what the prophet was writing about is helpful to understanding what the prophet means will happen in the future, understanding that names, places, etc., will take on a symbolic meaning.

Protestant leaders at the time were using present-day events to assert that they were living on the cusp of the end-times, twisting the prophecies to demonize their opponents. Catholic apologists, therefore, pointed out that these interpretations were inconsistent with the source of these prophecies. That doesn’t necessarily consist preterism, although I’d never make such a sweeping statement as to deny any reformation-era Catholic apologists were truly Preterist in the heretical sense of the term.


39 posted on 03/14/2011 3:30:38 PM PDT by dangus
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To: noiseman
Jesus was referring to the generation that would be alive at the time that the event that his fig tree parable refers to would occur. It is widely believed that this parable refers to the rebirth of the nation of Israel (which occurred in 1948).

generation from the greek
genea 1074

1) fathered, birth, nativity
2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family
a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy
b) metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character
1) esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation
3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time
4) an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a space of 30 - 33 years

33 years would be 1978.

40 posted on 03/14/2011 3:37:01 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen
First of all, there are various opinions as to length of the generation that Jesus referred to. I have often heard 40 years, but obviously that still doesn't bring us up to present day. However, what you are referring to is the length of what we call a "generation", while Jesus simply said that the generation that saw the "fig tree" event would not pass away before all of the rest of the prophecy occurred. Well, if even one person from a particular generation is still alive then I would propose that it is reasonable to say that that generation has not yet passed away. Given a 110 year or so maximum lifetime, we could be looking at somewhere around 2058 as the outside limit of this prophecy.

Of course, this is all conjecture and opinion. None of us know the ultimate answer to any of this. The primary point was to be prepared, spiritually and physically, regardless of when "the day of the Lord" comes.

41 posted on 03/14/2011 3:51:42 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

Since Jesus is the one speaking we have to go by the wording used when he spoke, which is what the Blue Letter Bible does.


42 posted on 03/14/2011 4:04:25 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: noiseman
Also is should be noted that we are speaking of a generation, not a century. If you want to stick with contemporary generations then we have baby boomers generation, they encompass years between what 40's through 50's? Certainly not 110 years. How about generation x. How many years? Again it isn't 110. LOL

You are trying to stretch that generation to 110 years to force your fulfillment of prophecy.

43 posted on 03/14/2011 4:11:08 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: noiseman

it’s not a matter of where he grips it... it’s a matter of weight ratios. a four ounce bird can’t carry a 9 pound coconut.


44 posted on 03/14/2011 4:12:13 PM PDT by teeman8r (armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: noiseman
It is widely believed that this parable refers to the rebirth of the nation of Israel (which occurred in 1948).

Yep, that's "widely believed." Which is why 1988 was supposed to be the deadline (40 years to a generation). What's our current fallback from that? When's the new deadline for "that generation" passing away?

45 posted on 03/14/2011 4:22:12 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: xjcsa

Hard to explain verse 34 otherwise.

Give us the otherwise then. Do you say “all these things” were fulfilled at Jerusalem, AD 70?

Do you say the stupendous astronomical events described in verse 29 happened in 70 AD?

Do you say “all the tribes of the earth” in mourning because they see the Son of man coming in heaven, verse 30, happened in 70 AD?

Do you say the second coming of Christ described in verse 30, happened in 70 AD?

Do you say the angels sounded a great trumpet in 70 AD, which gathered together the elect from one end of heaven to the other at Christ’s second coming, verse 31?

Are “all these things” the things you say were fulfilled in 70 AD?

Enlighten us, please.


46 posted on 03/14/2011 4:27:41 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: noiseman

Hey, noise I just marvel at the Bible’s complete compendium of knowledge. For instance, the geography of St. Luke and t was supossedly full of errors. That is until archeologists started digging up cities like Decapolis and located those towns exactly where St. Luke and the HS put them. The old testament accurately pointed out that the Earth and other planets rotate around the Sun. It took Western man and Galeleo until 1500’s to prove what Moses knew through the enlightenment of the Angel of the Lord.


47 posted on 03/14/2011 4:27:58 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: xjcsa
That particular passage is stating that the generation that is alive at the beginning of the tribulation will not pass away until all the things foretold happen. It is not referencing the current (at that time) generation asking the question?

Basically, it sets the time frame that when the first signs begin appearing the normal life span of a generation (30 to 40 years by various estimates) would be long enough to contain ALL the events foretold.

This alone would mean that the events of 70 ad could not constitute the tribulation because the end hasn't occurred within the lifespan of a generation.

Also, ‘this generation’ refers to the generation Jesus was referring to which was to witness the events. It doesn't refer to the generation alive during Jesus time.

48 posted on 03/14/2011 4:44:32 PM PDT by dglang
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To: Netizen
Why would I think otherwise? Consider, the current earthquakes, which rival any known trembler. I know whats about to come will leave our jaws upon the floor. Hang on Brother, things are about to get really rough. I can't speak for anybody else, but TSIATHTF!!!!

I don't care what version of the Bible you read, time has run out for 'the age of man'. We are about to enter the Millenial rule of Jesus Christ. He will rule with a rod of iron. Their won't be much crime, or other criminal activity. Wow, what a wonderful time it will be!

49 posted on 03/14/2011 4:45:12 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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To: dglang

Thanks, I just can’t get over the guy who said that I was a heretic? I’m definately a sinner, but heretic’s kind of harse language for any Christian to lay upon a Brother, don’t you think?


50 posted on 03/14/2011 4:48:14 PM PDT by STD (Love Your God, Love Your Neighbor!)
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