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Jon Bon Jovi slams Steve Jobs for 'killing' music
San Fran Chronic ^ | March 14 2011 at 02:40 PM

Posted on 03/15/2011 3:42:57 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: absolootezer0

oh.. and a specific note to bj.. do0d, consider you haven’t made a song anyone cares about this millenia, but people are probably actually buying your old music again on itunes, which means you get the money.. rather than them paying a dollar to buy your used albums from a pawn shop, that you won’t see a cent of.


41 posted on 03/15/2011 5:39:23 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: dennisw

This lightweight Bon Jovi was doing a pretty good job of killing music himself.


42 posted on 03/15/2011 5:40:11 AM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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To: Yaelle; dennisw
Bull piles. There was nothing magical about buying albums. Everyone (some rare album exceptions) hated having to buy the whole album for two good songs and eight shoddy ones.

that's what you get for listening to crap like jon bonjovi.

some of the best music never got airplay but if you bothered to listen to the whole record (of real, not pop acts) it was like finding gold.

43 posted on 03/15/2011 5:42:23 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Every knife in my back pushes me forward.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Crappy music made people unwilling to pay $20 for a CD most of which nobody wanted to hear

But even before that...

The RIAA and their associated pimps thought it was a GREAT idea to digitize the music and make everybody replace their vinyl (@$5.99/pop) with silver disks at $20/pop.

They did not spend the money to protect their copyright by encoding the files, and they had to subsequently pay massive bribes to Howard Berman and Fritz Hollings to get the laws changed.

By then, iTunes was already a concept.

Too little, too late.

44 posted on 03/15/2011 5:44:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I'd crawl over broken glass for her. Alea iacta est.)
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To: dennisw
What is this music Bon Jovi speaks of?

Digital music is ONLY an approximation of the same analog music. A sound wave is contiguous, while the digital interpretation takes a reading 44000 times per second.

2. CDs made since 1991 have used 'compression' that has stripped away a lot of the dynamic range that was incorporated during a recording session. RHCP Californication is typical example. BING 'loudness wars.'

3. Converting CDs to MP3 strips away a further 80-90% of the 'music.' MP3 uses 'lossless' and masking to trick our ear drums.

The book by Greg Milner - Perfecting Sound Forever goes in to great detail.

45 posted on 03/15/2011 5:52:49 AM PDT by deadrock (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Philo)
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To: dennisw

eh


46 posted on 03/15/2011 5:54:50 AM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: MalPearce
a delivery technology that’s wasteful, inefficient, soulless and overpriced

I lost all sympathy for the record industry when CDs matured while cassette tapes were still being sold. CDs cost several time LESS to manufacture than tapes, but they had a higher retail cost.
47 posted on 03/15/2011 5:56:48 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: MCF

I’m old enough to recall the “death” of the music industry because of cassette recorders. They wanted a ban on them also.


48 posted on 03/15/2011 5:58:35 AM PDT by PogySailor (The ruling class will not go down easily. And neither will their paid hacks.)
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To: LS

I’m not sure either, but I have a vague recollection of a time when LPs weren’t shrink wrapped, and you could play them in the booth. That, of course, didn’t last long as the LP was more easily damaged in the process.

The 45 served several purposes.

Very often, a startup performer or group would sign with a small label or even privately issue a 45. These would be sold at dances or in stores to create some income, and more importantly, distributed to larger record companies and radio stations in hopes of landing a big label contract.

The big label company would then issue the same record as a 45 on their label and, if it sold well, an album deal would follow.

At that point, the 45 became the stimulus for album sales, as you described.


49 posted on 03/15/2011 6:04:31 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: dennisw
Hey BJ,the times they are a changin’. Get with it. I grew up with LPs,8-tracks,cassettes,then CDs. So what. These items are still available,as are headphones. I think this is a money issue with BJ.
50 posted on 03/15/2011 6:15:18 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (I can't afford anymore hope and change!!!!)
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To: Jim Noble
a GREAT idea to digitize the music and make everybody replace their vinyl

The first album I ever bought was Beggar's Banquet. (still one of my favorites)

Wore out the first vinyl copy. Bought and wore out the second vinyl copy. Bought and wore out a cassette.

Then I bought it on CD. Now I have a FLAC copy on my computer, another copy on a backup HD, another copy on a backup DVD, and a copy on my SanDisk portable player.

I don't think I'll have to buy another copy of this album (or any other album I own) ever again.

51 posted on 03/15/2011 6:20:39 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (When you buy stocks, you're betting on Bernanke)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
but video ala MTV lit the fuse.

Video killed the radio star...

52 posted on 03/15/2011 6:32:16 AM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: Vor Lady

And Bon Jovi made a fortune from MTV.

Like most celebs he should just shut up.


53 posted on 03/15/2011 6:41:13 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: jimbo123

I agree. I wish Jon Bon Blowme would get lost. He is the epitome of the wimpy, douchebag liberal musician.


54 posted on 03/15/2011 6:44:47 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: lmr
Bon Jovi sux, but, in a way, he’s right. All the best music that was ever going to be released was released before the year 2005. MP3’s and piracy have killed the music business’ business model. That’s just a fact. There is less economic incentive now, so the offerings aren’t as good. It’s Econ 101, folks. I didn’t like their imperialistic distribution model either, but the days of arena bands and 40x multi-platinum artists are long gone, my friends.

You are right about all the best music being over, IMO. I seldom download anything; preferring CDs (or even SACDs and DVD-A's) over low quality MP3 downloads. I basically just listen to classical music and Sinatra now. All the music I listen to is mainly by dead guys. I watch the local news in the morning when I am getting ready for work. They list "what's hot" in music. Not only have I never heard any of it, I seldom even know who the "artist" is. It amazes me that people watch American Idol, as if we need any more "artists" in the music scene.

Another factor that has killed music: rap/hip-hop. When you reduce music to rhythmic chanting that appeals to a gangsta audience, it's not even worthy of being called music anymore.

At least downloads keep people from having to buy an entire album for one or two decent songs.

55 posted on 03/15/2011 8:30:16 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: dennisw

how much money do we think Bongiovi makes from the purchases from itunes? A LOT! people are able to pick and choose songs a la carte now who may not ever have purchased one of his albums in full, so, killing music or making money John? While missing out on the thrill of buying “records” kids these days experience music differntly and in their own “magical” way that would have been envied back in the day


56 posted on 03/15/2011 8:44:13 AM PDT by sappy (let taxpayers bargain collectively)
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To: lmr

Bon Jovi sux, but, in a way, he’s right. All the best music that was ever going to be released was released before the year 2005. MP3’s and piracy have killed the music business’ business model. That’s just a fact.

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Too many people make the mistaken connection between the music industry and the making of music. Or that pop music is the sum total of music being made.

Anybody the least bit motivated can always find really good music being made in just about any genre (ok idk if that is true about rap and hip hop).


57 posted on 03/15/2011 11:21:03 AM PDT by dmz
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To: ohioman

I hate the bastard myself he is a Al Gore lover. I love my heavy metal albums. I still have them tucked away.


58 posted on 03/15/2011 11:27:58 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Tax-chick

Bon Jovi talks about the winderful experience of albums ... but I hated them. They would scratch.

Give me instant gratification.

I can hear a song, decide I want it, buy it, store in and play it within minutes and I don’t even have to get out of bed. And no scratches.

He sounds like an old fart.


59 posted on 03/15/2011 11:31:35 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: angcat

Me too. I was once a metal head guitarist myself. (I only get my guetar out 2-3 times a year anymore) It’s funny that most of the metalheads I knew grew up to be conservative like me. Probably because it is the liberals who are the ones who spend all their time telling us how we should live. F ‘em all.


60 posted on 03/15/2011 11:35:40 AM PDT by ohioman
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