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2011 Australian Grand Prix - Live Thread
Chode ^ | 3/24/2011 | Chode

Posted on 03/24/2011 4:06:12 PM PDT by Chode

AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Venue: Albert Park, Melbourne
Date: Sunday 27 March
Lap length: 3.295 miles
Race laps: 58
2010 winner: Jenson Button (McLaren)
First grand prix: 1996

Fri Cloudy 17c

Sat Cloudy 18c

Sun Cloudy 20c

OK SportsFans... first race of the year, good luck to all!!!

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F1-Grand Prix Live Feed #1 F1-Grand Prix Live Feed #2 F1-Grand Prix Live Feed

i don't know if the feeds will work this year...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: f1; formulaone; grandprix
UP...!!!

1 posted on 03/24/2011 4:06:18 PM PDT by Chode
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To: Chode; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; bobby.223; bobt7818; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Cruising Speed; ...
UP...!!!

The Australian Grand Prix may be moved from its traditional home in Melbourne as fears grow over the future of the race. The Albert Park street circuit - which plays host to Sunday's season-opener - has staged the event since 1996 but mounting financial losses have raised doubts about its viability.
Full story: the Times (subscription required)

Formula 1 commercial rights-holder Bernie Ecclestone has launched a stinging attack on Jean Todt, boss of motor racing's governing body the FIA. Todt took over as president of the FIA in 2009 after Ecclestone's former lawyer and friend Max Mosley resigned. Ecclestone called Todt "a poor man's Max" and described the Frenchman's efforts to make the sport more environmentally friendly as a "complete joke".

i might have a heart attack... i actually agree with the little prick!!!

Full story: Daily Express

Red Bull driver Mark Webber has warned F1's rule makers they risk destroying the "purity" of the sport after introducing a host of measures designed to liven up races. In the 2011 campaign drivers will have to cope with new moveable rear wings and the reintroduction of the Kers power boost system, as well as a new tyre supplier in Pirelli.
Full story: Daily Mail

But new F1 tyre supplier Pirelli believes the introduction of faster-wearing tyres to the sport should make strategy and tactics a major factor in deciding Sunday's Australian Grand Prix. Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery said: "It would be fantastic for the sport if maybe some of the teams not normally in the top four could come up with a strategy that allows them to get on the podium, and maybe cause a mini upset." (AP)

The FIA has extended the moveable rear wing overtaking zone to before the final corner of the Albert Park circuit for Sunday's grand prix. The zone, which is the only place on the track where drivers will be able to use their moveable wing in the race, will now start from just before the final turn on to the start-finish straight.
Full story: autosport.com

Webber has taken a swipe at Lewis Hamilton after the McLaren driver described Red Bull Racing as "just a drinks company." Hamilton was referring to the fact Red Bull upset the natural order last year by winning both the drivers' and constructors' championships in only their sixth season. Unsure as to their longevity in F1 in comparison to Ferrari and his McLaren team, Hamilton said: "I am certain both teams will do everything in their power to make sure they can remain at the top. But I have no clue what Red Bull are planning to do because they are not a manufacturer, they are a drinks company." Asked for some thoughts ahead of his fifth season with Red Bull, Webber's initial reply was: "Well, we're just a drinks company in the end!"
Full story: sportinglife.com

Mercedes' seven-time F1 champion Michael Schumacher, who struggled on his return to the sport last season after a three-year absence, has warned his rivals to expect the real deal this season. Schumacher says he will have "no-one to blame" but himself if he does not perform.
Full story: Daily Telegraph

Britain's Paul di Resta knows he has a fight on his hands to help drag Force India towards respectability this season. The Scottish rookie says the team's goal at the start of the year was for a fifth or sixth-placed finish in the constructors' championship but now concedes that is "going to be difficult".
Full story: Press Association via planet-f1.com

Lotus technical chief Mike Gascoyne reports that there has been rain at the venue for the opening race of the seaon, Albert Park. However, he says "the rest of the weekend is forecast to be dry, with Sunday forecast to be sunny and warm".
Full story: Mike Gascoyne on Twitter

Japanese driver Kamui Kobayashi wants Formula One to use its global appeal to help support people suffering from this month's destructive earthquake and tsunami. Kobayashi, who will drive for Sauber in Sunday's Melbourne Grand Prix, said: "The situation in Japan is really bad and if the GPDA [Grand Prix Drivers' Association] and FIA [Federation Internationale de l'Automobile] can help us, we need the help." (AFP)

if anybody wants to do any of the races, let me know just please keep the same naming format Year TrackName - Live Thread

2 posted on 03/24/2011 4:07:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

For Sale: State of the Art F1 Grand Prix Racetrack! Located in sunny Bahrain, complete with 5-star amenities! Cheap! Call UK-OI812, ask for Bernie.


3 posted on 03/24/2011 4:11:11 PM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: Chode
Seriously, its about time the season got underway.

Nico Rosberg for DWC and Ferrari or RB for CWC.

Schumi gets trounced this year just like last year.

Webbo declines, Massa lackluster, Jens & Hami limited by car.

Heidfeld surprises, Petrov dissapoints. Alonso is really good and can not be counted out but, in the end, it will be Seb vs Nico for the WC.

4 posted on 03/24/2011 4:23:38 PM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: Chode

5 posted on 03/24/2011 4:24:53 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Chode

6 posted on 03/24/2011 4:24:55 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Cruising Speed
tooo funny...
7 posted on 03/24/2011 4:49:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Cruising Speed
spot on...
8 posted on 03/24/2011 4:51:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MrShoop
yeah... i was hoping for a last minute comeback, but i guess it ain't happenin
9 posted on 03/24/2011 4:55:30 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

I’m hoping to find the first session on ustream or justin.tv


10 posted on 03/24/2011 4:58:26 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Chode

Moveable wings? Like Grantelli’s break flap on the 1967 Turbine car? Or variable angle depending on whether the car is cornering or on a straight? Better hope it doesn’t flatten out in a fast sweeper!


11 posted on 03/24/2011 5:17:30 PM PDT by Ohio Hermit (DX Is!)
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To: Chode
Here is a working stream:

http://www.justin.tv/xcvxvcxv#/w/1003035472

12 posted on 03/24/2011 6:34:33 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop
thx...
13 posted on 03/24/2011 6:42:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Ohio Hermit
not sure...
14 posted on 03/24/2011 6:44:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

i think this is a better link:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/f1212121


15 posted on 03/24/2011 6:48:33 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop
can't get that one to play
16 posted on 03/24/2011 7:07:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MrShoop
you can see the wing flex in some of the shots
17 posted on 03/24/2011 7:34:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Cruising Speed

Sauber’s car may be a suprise. Not a Red Bull or Ferrari but pretty good.

Nick Heidfeld is a very good driver and the Renault last year had some good races. Ross Brawn in preseason may have been sand bagging.


18 posted on 03/24/2011 9:11:47 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Chode

It is a crappy new Herman Tilke track. Dump all these new tracks as they suck. Monza, Spa, Silverstone (prefer Brands Hatch), Suzuka are about the only decent ones. Montreal is okay as is Interlagos and San Marino. Monza is kind of a processional bore.


19 posted on 03/24/2011 9:15:11 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Chode

I’m really looking forward to the SpeedTV HD coverage of the second session!!


20 posted on 03/24/2011 9:23:00 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop
enjoy... i'll be in bed.
21 posted on 03/24/2011 9:35:18 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Thanks for the ping.

Wow, not even 2 minutes into the very first session of the 2011 season and Chandhok stuffs the Lotus into the wall near turn 4. That’s got to be some kind of record.


22 posted on 03/25/2011 10:02:28 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Chode

Where is the updates for practice times?

Vettel Vettel Vettel....and Alonso.


23 posted on 03/25/2011 11:23:19 AM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Moltke

It is a shame that Kimi will probably never come back to F1. He was probably the fastest F1 driver in teh past 15 years.


24 posted on 03/25/2011 11:26:38 AM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Frantzie

Schumacher is back in F1 - why would Kimi not be back as well in a year or two? He’s young enough for that. I too would like to him slice and dice again.


25 posted on 03/25/2011 1:52:45 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Frantzie
i've been at work... feel free to post them as you see them

second practice...

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.854 32
2 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.986 0.132 31
3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:26.001 0.147 28
4 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:26.014 0.160 35
5 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:26.283 0.429 33
6 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:26.590 0.736 31
7 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:26.789 0.935 34
8 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.101 1.247 39
9 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:27.280 1.426 34
10 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:27.448 1.594 23
11 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:27.525 1.671 31
12 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:27.528 1.674 29
13 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1:27.536 1.682 22
14 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:27.697 1.843 30
15 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.095 2.241 35
16 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:28.376 2.522 33
17 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:28.583 2.729 31
18 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:29.386 3.532 29
19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:30.829 4.975 22
20 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:30.912 5.058 23
21 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:32.106 6.252 36
22 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:32.135 6.281 30
23 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth No time 1
24 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth No time 0

26 posted on 03/25/2011 2:43:07 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Watching qualifying on DVR and they mentioned that Kubica is making ‘phenomenal’ strides in his recovery and might even be able to come back *this season*. Wow, I thought his career was done, great news!


27 posted on 03/26/2011 8:10:44 AM PDT by Betis70 (UConn!)
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To: Chode

Full race timings

Sunday, 27 March 2011
Conditions: Sunny
Pos Country Driver Car Team Grid Fastest lap Race time Points
1 germany Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull-Renault 1 1:29.844 1:29:30.259 25
2 great britain Lewis Hamilton 3 McLaren-Mercedes 2 1:30.314 +00:22.297 18
3 russian federation Vitaly Petrov 10 Renault 6 1:30.064 +00:30.560 15
4 spain Fernando Alonso 5 Ferrari 5 1:29.487 +00:31.772 12
5 australia Mark Webber 2 Red Bull-Renault 3 1:29.600 +00:38.171 10
6 great britain Jenson Button 4 McLaren-Mercedes 4 1:29.883 +00:54.304 8
7 brazil Felipe Massa 6 Ferrari 8 1:28.947 +01:25.186 6
8 switzerland Sebastien Buemi 18 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 10 1:30.836 lapped 4
9 germany Adrian Sutil 14 Force India-Mercedes 16 1:31.526 lapped 2
10 great britain Paul Di Resta 15 Force India-Mercedes 14 1:31.941 lapped 1
11 spain Jaime Alguersuari 19 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 12 1:30.467 lapped
12 germany Nick Heidfeld 9 Renault 18 1:32.377 lapped
13 italy Jarno Trulli 21 Lotus-Renault 20 1:32.550 lapped
14 belgium Jerome d'Ambrosio 25 Virgin-Cosworth 22 1:34.523 lapped
15 germany Timo Glock 24 Virgin-Cosworth 21 1:35.789 retired, 49 laps
16 brazil Rubens Barrichello 11 Williams-Cosworth 17 1:31.404 retired, 48 laps
17 germany Nico Rosberg 8 Mercedes GP 7 1:33.503 retired, 22 laps
18 germany Michael Schumacher 7 Mercedes GP 11 1:35.319 retired, 19 laps
19 finland Heikki Kovalainen 20 Lotus-Renault 19 1:34.918 retired, 19 laps
20 venezuela Pastor Maldonado 12 Williams-Cosworth 15 1:34.102 retired, 9 laps
DSQ mexico Sergio Perez 17 Sauber 13 1:29.962 +01:05.845
DSQ japan Kamui Kobayashi 16 Sauber 9 1:30.384 +01:16.872



28 posted on 03/27/2011 8:06:26 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Shame about the Saubers getting DSQ’d. Read the news blurb on formula1.com, something about a rear wing surface, but it wasn’t particularly detailed.


29 posted on 03/27/2011 8:42:59 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Chode
Lewis Hamilton doesn't deal in regrets, but he still cringes when he thinks back to his long hairstyle in 2006. "I realise now I looked absolutely terrible," the fashionably cropped Briton admits.
Full story: The Sun

Ferrari has hired a former commander of the Italian national aircraft aerobatic team to help improve their teamwork and communication in 2011.
Full story: autosport.com

Extending the Australian theme to naming his new car following the belated start to the 2011 season, Sebastian Vettel has apparently decided to call his new Red Bull 'Kinky Kylie'.
Full story: crash.net

Force India reserve driver Nico Hulkenberg has become the first driver to fall victim of the FIA stewards in 2011, when the German driver was caught driving 2.5 km/h above the pit lane speed limit.
Full story: pitpass.com

As a result of the Singapore race-fixing scandal, the FIA has adopted a new registration system to 'preserve the safety and the image of the FIA Formula One World Championship'. All Formula One teams will be required to nominate a number of senior team members to register with the FIA at the start of each season. Registered team members will be granted a formal certificate and be required to comply with the new FIA Code of Good Standing, starting at the beginning of the 2011 season.
Full story: The FIA

30 posted on 03/27/2011 10:33:53 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Moltke
Sauber's Sergio Perez and Kamui Kobayashi have lost their seventh and eighth places in Sunday's Australian Grand Prix after both were disqualified for technical infringements on their cars.

Following post-race checks, the Melbourne stewards decided that both Sauber C30s were in breach of technical rules 3.10.1* and 3.10.2**, in relation to their rear wings. The team plan to appeal the decision.

"This is a very surprising and disappointing result," commented James Key, Saubers technical director. "It appears that there is a question over the top surface of the uppermost rear wing element, this area is not the working surface of the component and therefore relatively unimportant to its function.

"Certainly this has not led to any performance advantage. We are checking the design of the parts now to better understand the situation and we intend to appeal the decision made by the stewards."

The ruling means Ferraris Felipe Massa moves up to seventh, Force India's Adrian Sutil to eighth, Toro Rosso's Sebastien Buemi to ninth and Force India's Paul di Resta to tenth, the Scot thus scoring on his F1 debut.

*Article 3.10.1
"Any bodywork more than 150mm behind the rear wheel centre line which is between 150mm and 730mm above the reference plane, and between 75mm and 355mm from the car centre line, must lie in an area when viewed from the side of the car that is situated between 150mm and 350mm behind the rear wheel centre line and between 300mm and 400mm above the reference plane. When viewed from the side of the car no longitudinal cross section may have more than one section in this area.

"Furthermore, no part of this section in contact with the external air stream may have a local concave radius of curvature smaller than 100mm.

"Once this section is defined, 'gurney' type trim tabs may be fitted to the trailing edge. When measured in any longitudinal cross section no dimension of any such trim tab may exceed 20mm."

** Article 3.10.2
"Other than the bodywork defined in Article 3.10.9, any bodywork behind a point lying 50mm forward of the rear wheel centre line which is more than 730mm above the reference plane, and less than 355mm from the car centre line, must lie in an area when viewed from the side of the car that is situated between the rear wheel centre line and a point 350mm behind it."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9435626.stm

31 posted on 03/27/2011 10:37:37 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Yep, that’s pretty much exactly the text of the post on formula1.com. No wait, that’s *exactly* the text of that post. The BBC must’ve been too lazy to write their own copy.

Now, I’d say I’m a technically inclined guy, but that does not really help me understand what’s the issue with Sauber’s wing. I guess it will be explained in greater detail in the coming days.


32 posted on 03/27/2011 11:12:49 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Moltke
i don't understand it either...
33 posted on 03/27/2011 2:12:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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