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Was the First Rock 'n' Roll Song Recorded in 1946?
Self | March 27, 2011 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 03/27/2011 5:41:19 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

Perhaps the official start of the Rock 'n' Roll era should be moved back from 1954's release of Bill Haley's "Rock Around the Clock" to 1946 to this Tex Beneke (formerly with the Glenn Miller Band) song, HEY-BA-BA-RE-BOP.

Call me crazy but this sure sounds like Rock 'n' Roll except it was a full 8 years before what is generally acknowledged as the beginning of the Rock era.

HEY-BA-BA-RE-BOP


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What do you think? Should Tex Beneke be recognized as the first Rock 'n' Roll singer?
1 posted on 03/27/2011 5:41:21 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix

There are no orchestras in rock and roll.


2 posted on 03/27/2011 5:45:57 AM PDT by libertybell
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To: PJ-Comix

Rock ‘n Roll goes back even father than that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uE-0E_Hwqo


3 posted on 03/27/2011 5:46:26 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 03/27/2011 5:49:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

So what happened to Rock? Popular music pretty much took a nosedive in recent years.


5 posted on 03/27/2011 5:50:31 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (The Coupon Whisperer)
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To: libertybell

“There are no orchestras in rock and roll.”

Really? What about ELO?:)
Seriously, I would call this more like swing.


6 posted on 03/27/2011 5:50:47 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: PJ-Comix
Sorry, that's not rock n roll. That's big band.

Catchy tune and makes you want to dance, but it ain't rock in roll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5fsqYctXgM (Bill Haley - Rock Around The Clock (1956) )

7 posted on 03/27/2011 5:51:07 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Nope. That was known as Bop or Bebop, a form of Jazz. Check it out here.
8 posted on 03/27/2011 5:51:55 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: PJ-Comix

A little later, but closer to real rock’n’roll was Louis Jordan’s “Saturday Night Fish Fry”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1QfXQakX2w


9 posted on 03/27/2011 5:52:37 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: libertybell

Oh yeah?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLNR4xfh1Qc


10 posted on 03/27/2011 5:53:18 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: PJ-Comix

Nope, that is whiteboy scat/swing


11 posted on 03/27/2011 5:55:34 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: PJ-Comix
Listen to the songs of Hudde Ledbetter. You'll hear the roots of rock n roll in his singing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs3mj1E8LSU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCiJ4QQG9WQ

12 posted on 03/27/2011 5:56:00 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: libertybell

There is this album called “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”....


13 posted on 03/27/2011 5:56:30 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: PJ-Comix
Joe Jackson~We The Cats Shall Hep Ya(so reap this righteous riff)
14 posted on 03/27/2011 5:57:50 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: lowbridge
"The Blues had a baby and they called it Rock-n-Roll."
Muddy Waters-
15 posted on 03/27/2011 6:01:09 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: PJ-Comix

swing not R&R


16 posted on 03/27/2011 6:01:16 AM PDT by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: PJ-Comix
While Eddie Cochran would not hit the scene for a few more years, I consider him one of true first rockers

Something Else

17 posted on 03/27/2011 6:02:24 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: PJ-Comix

Tex Beneke is Mr. Smooth Voice, from a time in the distant past when singers could actually carry a tune. My favorite Tex Beneke song. He comes in at about 2:10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XQybKMXL-k


18 posted on 03/27/2011 6:03:07 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Fresh Wind

Classic boogie woogie, not R&R. Listen to the bass line.


19 posted on 03/27/2011 6:03:30 AM PDT by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: Fresh Wind

I guess the timing of the beginning of R&R can be argued but we can see the exact moment when folk music thankfully DIED. It was when Bluto smashed that folk singer’s guitar in “Animal House.” After that few took folk songs very seriously.


20 posted on 03/27/2011 6:05:34 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (The Coupon Whisperer)
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To: Tread EZ

I didn’t say it WAS R&R, only that it was much closer than the Beneke tune. Listen to the guitar.


21 posted on 03/27/2011 6:05:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: PJ-Comix

What will the last rock and roll song be?


22 posted on 03/27/2011 6:05:59 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (If your PC is running slowly then it will be easy to catch.)
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To: PJ-Comix

WOW. Great comments here.


23 posted on 03/27/2011 6:07:07 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips)
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To: PJ-Comix

There really was a fairly seamless style evolution from swing (for example, 1941 “Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfCFU3Mqww ) and modern rock.

What primarily characterized Rock-n-Roll was the transition from “big band” to electronically-amplified instruments like electric-guitar, but today we have singers who have full-size band accompaniment who we still characterize as rock.


24 posted on 03/27/2011 6:08:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PJ-Comix

If It wasn’t Rock Around the Clock then it had to be Sh-Boom which was also released in 1954. A huge hit. 1954 was the year Rock N Roll was launched.


25 posted on 03/27/2011 6:08:45 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Sex Pistols~Something Else
26 posted on 03/27/2011 6:09:14 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: PJ-Comix

The term “folk music” as it is normally used is meaningless. Every culture and era has it’s own folk music, or “music of the people”, and it was almost never the insipid crap that Bluto smashed.


27 posted on 03/27/2011 6:10:41 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Good stuff, thanks for posting. The page in the link also had Wynonie Harris tunes on it. I discovered him in the 80s and loved his stuff - pre Elvis rock and blues.


28 posted on 03/27/2011 6:11:03 AM PDT by NEPA (Give me liberty, not debt)
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To: Tread EZ
Boojie Woojie?

Long John Baldry~ Don't try to lay no boogie woogie on the King of Rock and Roll

29 posted on 03/27/2011 6:12:13 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: PJ-Comix
March, 1951: Rocket 88.
30 posted on 03/27/2011 6:13:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Les Paul invented Rock and Roll
http://www.dipity.com/timetube/YouTube_Les_Paul_Guitar/


31 posted on 03/27/2011 6:13:42 AM PDT by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: Tread EZ

I’d call it “scat.”


32 posted on 03/27/2011 6:15:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: PJ-Comix
I concur with Tread EZ-

I was taking piano lessons when I was 5 years old in 1947-

My piano teacher had some trouble with teaching me classical right off the bat, so the she taught me me boogie woogie first a` la the above.

33 posted on 03/27/2011 6:15:28 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: PJ-Comix
Actually "Rock Around the Clock" was not the first Rock-n-Roll record, it was the first rock song to go to #1 on the Billboard charts, thus ushering in the Rock and Roll era.

Bill Haley and his Comets had several other rock songs hit the charts long before "Clock", such as "Rocket 88" (1951), "Rock the Joint" (1952), and "Crazy Man, Crazy" (1953).

34 posted on 03/27/2011 6:18:23 AM PDT by softwarecreator (You say you want a revolution, well, you know ... we'd all love to see the plan.)
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To: PJ-Comix
The others are right.. it's swing. Bebop. Bop.

There was rhythm back then.. not everything sounded like Spike Jones' popular "Never Hit Your Grandma With A Shovel." (It will leave a bad impression on her mind.. besides she might respond in kind.. use a rock.. a big rock. BTW, in those days everyone knew that it was just kidding.. well most everyone.)

35 posted on 03/27/2011 6:19:44 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Holy smoke!

When I joined the Army in 1970, one of our favorite Jody calls while marching to the field was,

“Hey, Ba-ba-ree-bop! Hey, Ba-ba-ree-bop!

“I wish all the ladies, were pies on the shelf!

(Family thread here)

Anyway, R&R didn’t start in 1946. Heck, the word “teenager” wasn’t even in usage yet. Teenaged girls were “bobby-soxers” or “viddle vops” (said mostly about Sinatra fans).


36 posted on 03/27/2011 6:22:50 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam.)
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To: softwarecreator

I thought “Rocket 88” was a song by “The Cadillacs.”


37 posted on 03/27/2011 6:23:40 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (The Coupon Whisperer)
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To: PJ-Comix

Rocket 88 by Jackie Brenston, supposedly the first...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcFIj8OuIEI


38 posted on 03/27/2011 6:26:50 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: mylife

loved it!


39 posted on 03/27/2011 6:27:03 AM PDT by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: Fresh Wind

Once again, classic boogie woogie. Rock is guitar. Real Rock is electric guitar and electric bass without the boogie woogie bass line.


40 posted on 03/27/2011 6:30:32 AM PDT by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: Tread EZ

41 posted on 03/27/2011 6:31:26 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: PJ-Comix

For anyone who does not know this site is available here is a great free music link.

http://www.archive.org/details/opensource_audio

I am a big Jazz fan so here is one for you could be a little rockish!

http://www.archive.org/details/LuckyMillinder-Savoy1943


42 posted on 03/27/2011 6:32:11 AM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: softwarecreator
Bill Haley had his roots in western swing, which was basically countrified boogie woogie. He sure knew how to dress, too!


43 posted on 03/27/2011 6:32:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: All
The History of Rock and Roll
44 posted on 03/27/2011 6:32:36 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: PJ-Comix

That is swing a fore runner to Rock.


45 posted on 03/27/2011 6:33:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: PJ-Comix

This nonsense can get like talking about whether the Indians discovered America or the Siberians.


46 posted on 03/27/2011 6:34:32 AM PDT by dangus
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To: PJ-Comix

... besides, obviously “Rock around the Clock” refers to a pre-existing movement.


47 posted on 03/27/2011 6:35:36 AM PDT by dangus
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I thought “Rocket 88” was a song by “The Cadillacs.”

Never heard of them charting with a version of that song, but Bill Haley recorded with that song in the early 50's, one if the first to actually hit the Billboard top seller list. I was merely pointing out that the thought that "Rock Around the Clock" was the fist rock song is not correct, several others had charted with rock songs long before 1954 and the Comets were one of the most successful.

I am pretty sure Ike Turner also did "Rocket 88" back in 1951 and it too charted.

48 posted on 03/27/2011 6:35:40 AM PDT by softwarecreator (You say you want a revolution, well, you know ... we'd all love to see the plan.)
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To: dangus

But Rock and Roll is a lot more fun!


49 posted on 03/27/2011 6:36:13 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Fresh Wind

Classy!


50 posted on 03/27/2011 6:39:33 AM PDT by softwarecreator (You say you want a revolution, well, you know ... we'd all love to see the plan.)
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