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Why Hasn't Trump received any real backlash from the MSM on his birther blitz?
Monday March 28, 2011

Posted on 03/28/2011 10:06:58 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Seriously...Since Donald Trump has been on the birther crusade for well over a week, and arguing with the likes of Whoopie Goldberg on the View about it and displaying his birth certificate as a challenge to President Obama on the issue ... providing a copy of his birth certificate to the conservative website Newsmax, I have seen very little if any heavily critical stories about Trump raising the issue...maybe a few snarky remarks, but no mocking him as a total nut or loony, no hit-pieces trashing of him! maybe I might be missing it but I haven't seen it

If anybody else had done and said the same things as him, they would be immediately denounced by many in the MSM or some Congressman - but for him its a no.

If Sarah or for that fact any other major potential candidate were to do the same thing that Trump is doing for a week, they would be attacked...just like when Bachmann or others either made a comment, a joke or or made a slip up statement on the issue.

Maybe the media doesn't see him as a threat?


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1 posted on 03/28/2011 10:07:02 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Because Trump produced his own BC in an hour and NEVER CLAIMED OBAMA IS NOT BORN HERE! If you observe more carefully, what Trump is saying is that why can’t Obama just produce the BC available in less than an hour and why has Obama spent over a Million dollars trying to keep it a secret.

So your premise is wrong in calling Trump a birther. Trump was very careful to not go that route.

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2 posted on 03/28/2011 10:11:36 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Islam grows silently like cancer and when large enough it kills the host)
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To: Bigtigermike

The 3 attacks used by Commies won’t work on Trump:

#1 He’s racist! Nobody believes Trump is racist.
#2 He’s stupid! Nobody believes Trump is stupid. Bush/Palin/Bachman/Beck are supposedly “stupid,” but this isn’t credible when said of Trump.
#3 He’s evil! Nobody believes Trump is evil. Cheney can be painted as evil, since he doesn’t have the public persona or charm of Trump.

Since that 1/2/3 punch is the only thing the Commies have, they literally don’t know what to do. Thus, they’re probably busy digging up photos of Trump spanking a hooker.

They’ll release those photos with their logic: “Here in these photos, Trump is spanking a hooker. Thus Obama’s birth certificate isn’t important.”

Also, Trump fights back. He doesn’t lay down and get kicked. The more the Commies attack him, the more he wins.


3 posted on 03/28/2011 10:13:56 PM PDT by LyinLibs
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To: Bigtigermike
Trump Attacked for Demanding Obama Birth Docs
4 posted on 03/28/2011 10:14:10 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Bigtigermike

They can’t protest too much because it would get attention. There’s no way for them to spin it without bringing more attention to it.

The MSM is between a Barack and a hard place.


5 posted on 03/28/2011 10:17:47 PM PDT by unkus
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To: kabar

according to that article Brian Lowry of Variety and Dan Wegal on Slate is all they say bashed him..like I said, not major news or a lot of them in fact


6 posted on 03/28/2011 10:18:10 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
Why Hasn't Trump received any real backlash from the MSM on his birther blitz?

Because no one takes Trump seriously. He's a self-promoting reality-show personality, nothing more, and is not perceived as a credible threat.
7 posted on 03/28/2011 10:19:15 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Bridge_toofar

Trump has gone back and forth on this.....he said that he believe that he is born in america and then at one time that he would be constitutional ineligible if he wasn’t born here in this country


8 posted on 03/28/2011 10:20:50 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

That’s what I was thinking in my post -— the MSM attacks only those that they really fear. there have been a few snarky remarks but nothing major.


9 posted on 03/28/2011 10:22:53 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Two reasons.

1. Trump is well-known and well-liked by most Americans on either side of the political spectrum. His positions are well known by most people and therefore much more difficult to have his positions defined for him. Whereas, Sarah Palin allowed herself to be defined by the media, because she wasn’t skilled enough to define herself.

2. The media had to protect Obama during the first term, so he could push his agenda through before America got to know him. Now that Americans know him and find him wanting, he’s now considered disposable. They will not protect him to get him elected for a second term.


10 posted on 03/28/2011 10:22:53 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Bigtigermike

Or maybe they do think he is serious and the last thing they really want to do is jump on him because anything they say or do will keep the issue itself in the public eye — and THAT is what they want to avoid.

They are hoping upon hope that Trump just gets bored, gives up on it, and gets interested in something else. If they respond, they will just stimulate his interest even more.

It’s the MSM version, maybe if I ignore him, he’ll go away.


11 posted on 03/28/2011 10:24:36 PM PDT by Ronin (Tokyo Hot -- Looking forward to saving money on night lights!!!)
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To: Bigtigermike

I think the MSM is setting us up.

If they allow it to become the ONLY issue for ‘the right’ in 2012 all Obama has to do is “ta da” release a forged BC and the election will be basically over.

It won’t matter if the forgery becomes apparent later, because the MSM won’t mention that. It’ll all be too late.


12 posted on 03/28/2011 10:27:01 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Bigtigermike
I think you are wrong about the MSM not criticizing Trump. Watch what happens over the next few weeks.

NY Daily News--Show me! Donald Trump wants to see President Obama's birth certificate with his own eyes. "The loud-mouthed billionaire called out President Obama during an appearance on "The View" Wednesday, demanding the nation's leader put an end to the debate over whether or not he was actually born in the United States.

13 posted on 03/28/2011 10:27:56 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Bigtigermike
Anyone who has ever studied the Trump style of negotiating understands that he is setting a trap.

The funny hair and the TV Trump hide a very ruthless businessman.

As he slowly builds the case methodical question by question - you can be certain this wealthy and calculating shark understands the possible response and has all of his ducks in a very tidy row.

To attack Trump is to beg the question, and The Donald might just have an answer, long since prepared, that you prefer not to have aired.

This is not minor league play. The reason the big boys have not called him out is his reputation for setting up “so called” bright bulbs and abusing them for all to see.

Huck

14 posted on 03/28/2011 10:28:09 PM PDT by I'll be your Huckleberry
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To: Jonty30

#1 is bull....with Sarah! She was defined within 1 day of her being announced as Vice President candidate - banning books, charging rape kits for rape victims, belief in Earth is 6,000 years....etc...all lies because they feared her. The inept McCain camp said “don’t worry about it”

#2 The MSM will always be ‘in the tank’ for liberal agenda, they are not going to abandon Obama, they haven’t yet


15 posted on 03/28/2011 10:29:05 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Ronin

Trump represents American capitalism.

He isn’t moslem. Isn’t a commie. Isn’t a dirty traitor.

So if the commies (aka democrats) fight him openly, that contrast just makes it more obvious they’re commies.


16 posted on 03/28/2011 10:29:40 PM PDT by LyinLibs
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To: LyinLibs

“Trump fights back”

Yup, people know he won’t back down. Liberals are above all
cowards, one brave man can back down a whole mob of them.


17 posted on 03/28/2011 10:32:08 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: Bigtigermike

I’m going with the theory that since he’s carrying Hillary’s water on this, he’s going to get a pass. During the campaign, Hill got the could shoulder, but now, it seems that some in the MSM either have buyer’s remorse, or think that 0 is vulnerable.


18 posted on 03/28/2011 10:32:08 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: kabar

did you read that article?....calling him loud mouth is snarky alright but the rest of the article isn’t attacking him REALLY but just stating his positions and what others have said AND THE daily news IS HEAVILY LIBERAL


19 posted on 03/28/2011 10:32:18 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: LyinLibs

Also the RAT media has nobody on the bench to run RAT ‘12 if zero is taken down and can’t run.


20 posted on 03/28/2011 10:34:23 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Bigtigermike

He could be playing interference.


21 posted on 03/28/2011 10:35:37 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Bigtigermike

The media loves this. Keeping this kooky birther stuff in the news will help Obama get re-elected.


22 posted on 03/28/2011 10:37:13 PM PDT by willk
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To: Bigtigermike

Actually, I think he has a document in his coat pocket he is holding for the time when someone on the Obama side challenges him to put up or shut up.

It would not be someone who acted with forethought but out of anger and would in essence fall into the trap.

Then Trump could just reach in his pocket and produce the proof necessary to answer the challenge.

Woe to the person who throws down such a gauntlet.


23 posted on 03/28/2011 10:40:51 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: Bigtigermike

Even Democrats are starting to question Barry’s eligibility.


24 posted on 03/28/2011 10:42:01 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Bigtigermike

If Palin ask the same question, she be denounced. I think its because Trump is a billionaire and ppl of his stature are given a level of respect, while those who are country bumpkins are treat disrespectfully


25 posted on 03/28/2011 10:43:59 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Bridge_toofar

I believe what you said about Trump asking for a BC is very much like many so called birthers have been asking for. If Trump not asking for an official Certificate of Live Birth as many birthers are demanding does not go that far seems to keep him from being a birther , I think it is quibbling. If Trump is not a birther he sure has raised their flag. More controversey the better.


26 posted on 03/28/2011 10:44:34 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Bigtigermike

Because he is cool as Shiite and they the Lamo, Barry, is an insignificant runt.


27 posted on 03/28/2011 10:44:51 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Bridge_toofar

I believe what you said about Trump asking for a BC is very much like many so called birthers have been asking for. If Trump not asking for an official Certificate of Live Birth as many birthers are demanding does not go that far seems to keep him from being a birther , I think it is quibbling. If Trump is not a birther he sure has raised their flag. More controversey the better.


28 posted on 03/28/2011 10:44:52 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Jonty30
Sarah Palin allowed herself to be defined by the media, because she wasn’t skilled enough to define herself.

What a complete load of horse manure.

The MSM hasn't defined Palin to anyone except the drooling Obot zombies, who've been pre-programmed from childhood to hate any Republican who would dare to challenge any Democrat presidential candidate - and most especially their new messiah.

And, in case you hadn't noticed, Sarah Palin has penned two books since the end of the 2008 campaign, and has stayed up front and center in the public eye, with appearances on Fox, public speaking engagements, editorials, tweets, her Facebook page, and LOTS of networking and endorsements in the 2010 midterm elections.

Don't tell me that she's not skilled enough to define herself.

Palin's popularity hasn't suffered one whit amongst center-right Americans who make up the ranks of the Tea Party. There isn't a national political figure on this side of the aisle who is more popular and admired than she is.

29 posted on 03/28/2011 10:47:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Hehe. Trump doesn’t see the media as a threat. He has no constituency he must cater to to get reelected. He has all the money in the world he could need, his own private security, and fame based off of a
Lifetime of successes and failures he owns with personal responsibility. Plus, he knows everybody’s dirt. He has the money to dig for dirt on anyone he chooses.

He is the Donald. They can’t touch him. He is the the huge 6’2” insanely fast guy in the “Octagon” they all fear.

I think I am in love.

Just kidding! He is doing the truth and the constitution a great service. I am very sincerely grateful!


30 posted on 03/28/2011 10:48:54 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Bigtigermike

1. It doesn’t matter if they are able to define you the moment you walk on the stage. When you’re playing with the big boys, you need to wear big-boy-pants and need to be prepared for such things. Had Sarah gone for a slightly lower step, than VP, like a congressman or senator and then ran for VP, she would have had a record to run on and would have been in more control of her image. I still think that is what Sarah should do. If she proves herself, the Republican party would invite her back, no problem.

2. The media is very manipulative and propagandizing. However, they also know to abandon a candidate if there is no way he can win. Unless Obama is able to turn things around, the media will eat him.


31 posted on 03/28/2011 10:51:13 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: GeronL
...all Obama has to do is “ta da” release a forged BC and the election will be basically over.

Have you ever wondered why the serial number is blacked out on Obama's alleged COLB? It's because all of the birth certificates that were issued by Kaipolani Hospital at the time of his birth were sequentially numbered.

The people who hold the birth certificates from the day that Zero claims he was born there are known and documented (see: Nordyke twins).

Zero's forgers are going to have to 'disappear' someone's entire existence from the public records to insert him in that sequence. Gonna be awfully hard to do. Pretty much impossible, in fact.

32 posted on 03/28/2011 10:53:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Danae
He is the Donald. They can’t touch him. He is the the huge 6’2” insanely fast guy in the “Octagon” they all fear. I think I am in love.

I agree. If it weren't for that squirrel on his head, he'd be quite the stud.

33 posted on 03/28/2011 10:55:48 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: Windflier

I like Sarah. I would be part of the tea party, if I were American. However, and I certainly can be wrong, but I do not believe that she has enough support from Americans in general to become president at this point.

In politics, you need to build a foundation. If you move too fast, you generally fail. I think trying to become president or VP was too fast 3 years ago and it’s still too fast. That is my position. I would be far more comfortable with her running for president if she had a congressional record to run on.


34 posted on 03/28/2011 10:56:55 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Windflier

I like Sarah. I would be part of the tea party, if I were American. However, and I certainly can be wrong, but I do not believe that she has enough support from Americans in general to become president at this point.

In politics, you need to build a foundation. If you move too fast, you generally fail. I think trying to become president or VP was too fast 3 years ago and it’s still too fast. That is my position. I would be far more comfortable with her running for president if she had a congressional record to run on.


35 posted on 03/28/2011 10:57:05 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Bigtigermike

Because Trump is this decade’s Perot.


36 posted on 03/28/2011 10:57:12 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: Windflier

So THAT is why they haven’t just mocked up a forgery! I’ve often wondered.


37 posted on 03/28/2011 10:58:14 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: Jonty30

why congressional record when she have 10 years worth of Governor’s record, Chairman of Oil and Gas Regulation and Mayor. A congressman is simply a legislator, not an executive. Thats like saying, I rather a lawyer to run a business than a ceo of a large corporation


38 posted on 03/28/2011 11:00:40 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“He’s a self-promoting reality-show personality, nothing more...”

Nothing more? He developed a large chain or restaurants and real estate all over New York and the East Coast before any ‘reality show.’ His or any other. He’s been a self-made billionaire for at least a quarter century.

US mainstream media is based in NYC. They do NOT consider hi a buffoon. And they sure as hell don’t have the guts to cross him. They don’t have to ‘like’ him, but they would underestimate him at their own peril.


39 posted on 03/28/2011 11:02:49 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: unkus

Bingo. Totally agree. They are checkmated.They attack Trump and the issue goes viral. The birth certificate issue will destroy Obama like the tsunami in Japan. This is orchestrated. Perhaps Trump knows the Congress and the Presidency is going all Republican and he wants to position himself to get the lion’s share of the goodies when it does.When Obama is gone there will be a lot of rebuilding to do and billions spent. Trump could be positioning himself to be in the middle.


40 posted on 03/28/2011 11:04:27 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Bigtigermike

Donald Trump belongs in the minds of Americans as very respectable and trustworthy. As much as any other man.


41 posted on 03/28/2011 11:05:07 PM PDT by sazerac (rock and roll...god bless america,..)
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To: 4rcane

Do you want her to win or not? She’s not viable by herself. She either needs a strong candidate to take the lead or she needs to deepen her record. Alaska is not a major state, like California, Texas, or the North England states. Being governor of Alaska is like being the mayor of Los Angeles or Chicago. I would not advise the mayor of either city to run for president, regardless of the flawless record they might have.

My advice would to to move forward and upward, but not to take such a leap forward. If they did a sterling job in Congress that they became more than a junior senator, it would work.


42 posted on 03/28/2011 11:11:32 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: LyinLibs

Excellent analysis. One comment:

“Also, Trump fights back.”

May I add he’s a billionaire who fights back? After all, leftscum are cowards at heart. Trump and his wealth=power intimidate them.


43 posted on 03/28/2011 11:13:45 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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To: Vendome

It’s also because the media is uncertain about what Trump really has or knows and he’s holding his cards close to his chest.

The media is waiting for Trump to show his hand so they know if they can discount it.


44 posted on 03/28/2011 11:15:00 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: LyinLibs
Trump represents American capitalism. He isn’t moslem. Isn’t a commie. Isn’t a dirty traitor.

Excellent observation. I think you just nailed the popular appeal of Donald Trump in this presidential race.

I agree with the assessment, and I think that it tells a whole helluva lot more about the state, worries, and desires of American people than it does about Trump.

45 posted on 03/28/2011 11:15:08 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: ponygirl

Rotflmao.

You are so right! Do you think he could work it bald? Hey it works for patrick stewart! Meow.


46 posted on 03/28/2011 11:15:21 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Bridge_toofar
Here is the image you were trying to post.

Just trying to help. 8)

47 posted on 03/28/2011 11:16:25 PM PDT by freejohn
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To: Jonty30
I would be far more comfortable with her running for president if she had a congressional record

Well, since you're not from here, I'll give you a tip. Americans, for the most part, prefer to promote people to the presidency who've got some sort of executive track record in government.

Normally that means state governor.

Obama was a legislator, not an executive. A popular, well-liked, and admired Democrat governor would have likely beaten him in the primary. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson didn't come close to making that grade.

Legislators don't make good presidents. Nearly all of our presidents who came from the ranks of Congress have been total disasters for the country. A president, by the very nature of the job, has to be able to run a large organization. He is, after all, the Chief Executive of the nation. Governors have to do the same thing, just on a smaller scale, but this is why they're much better suited to taking the task.

Sarah Palin has that executive experience, which is one reason that she's always ahead of Obama on current events. Her reaction time is quicker, because she's been the boss, and unlike Obama, doesn't have to learn on the job (which he appears to be failing miserably at).

Not only that, Sarah's executive experience didn't start in the Alaska Governor's mansion (where she was very successful, by the way). It goes all the way back to her college days. She's been in charge of people and organizations for nearly her whole adult life.

I don't know what country you're in, but if you're accustomed to a parliamentary-style government, then I can see why you'd expect a president to have a legislative background. The American system is different, in that regard. Although there's no real requirement for our presidents to have honest executive experience, it's much desired by the people for their president to have prior experience at governing.

48 posted on 03/28/2011 11:17:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

And she has learned much. I’m not discounting her, I’m just seeing it from the perspective of how I think Americans view her overall.


49 posted on 03/28/2011 11:17:42 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Bigtigermike

The old Clinton strategy: ignore the story and it will go away. The MSM doing the One another favor.


50 posted on 03/28/2011 11:17:46 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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