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The brutal mother who forced Liz Taylor to cry on cue...
DailyMail ^ | Last updated at 11:13 AM on 29th March 2011 | By J Randy Taraborrelli

Posted on 03/30/2011 1:28:23 PM PDT by Niuhuru

Good lord! Wasn't that Elizabeth Taylor herself sitting over there with her new husband, the British matinee idol Michael Wilding?

Few of the diners in the smart Hollywood restaurant could resist watching the starry couple from the corners of their eyes.

Moments later, however, they must have been rubbing them in disbelief.

After Wilding said something that had clearly displeased her, Elizabeth swung her arm back in a wide arc. Her punch landed squarely on his jaw, and her distinguished second husband — 20 years older and the darling of British cinema-goers — fell heavily to the floor.

To outsiders, it looked just like a scene from one of Elizabeth's movies — and perhaps they weren't far off the mark. In her early 20s, she seemed to assume that intimate relationships had to be conducted with just as much dramatic intensity as those on the big screen.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: abuse; actress; bigscreen; idol; liztaylor; marriage; matinee; mother
I always wondered why some people who are abused get their lives together and others end up falling into the Hollywood trap.
1 posted on 03/30/2011 1:28:32 PM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: Niuhuru

Nothing like a British tabloid to give you the real scoop. It is amazing what Elizabeth Taylor survived. What a crazy life.


2 posted on 03/30/2011 1:41:19 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Watched Cleopatra on TV the other night. Crazy Liz was quite a babe back in the day. I guess this dude figured it was worth taking a punch or two at least for a while. I read that her quote for that film was the equiv of $47M adjusted for inflation.


3 posted on 03/30/2011 1:46:27 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Niuhuru

Clearly, Elizabeth Taylor’s was a case of psychic Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy, something which seems to recur fairly often in Hollywood.


4 posted on 03/30/2011 1:47:14 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Niuhuru

Very sad.


5 posted on 03/30/2011 2:00:35 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Niuhuru

Nothing like passing away to encourage the Press to tear down your life and deeds.


6 posted on 03/30/2011 2:01:35 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

The truth shall set you free. ;^)


7 posted on 03/30/2011 2:09:23 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Niuhuru
Perhaps the worst legacy of all from this time was her belief that romance should be just as it was portrayed in her early films

Read "The Seven Marriages Of Your Marriage." The "Hollywood" marriage is a common misconception. Brats today get married thinking that insatiable lust/desire is the most important foundation. When they cool off, as everybody does, they think the marriage isn't good enough. Then they abandon the marriage looking for that Hollywood passion.

Few of them understand commitment.

8 posted on 03/30/2011 2:12:54 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Niuhuru

My Gawd. She was beautiful from beginning to end.


9 posted on 03/30/2011 2:14:38 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: theDentist

They weren’t tearing her down, they were pointing out that she was a real drama queen and like a lot of legends, even Elizabeth Taylor, had MASSIVE issues. All entertainers are like that and there’s a reason that a lot of men refer to unstable women as ‘drama queens.’ He was pointing out a truth about her and the same could be said about Marilyn Monroe and Princess Diana. I have admiration for her since she knew ot leave when her time had passed. It’s how she survived.


10 posted on 03/30/2011 2:30:59 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I think the abuse she endured put her on the ‘crazy train’ of life and she was unable to step off of it and live normally. I don’t know how these celebs live as long as they do, I really truly do not. She was one of the smart ones to live that long, I know that much.


11 posted on 03/30/2011 2:33:02 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Jack Hammer

That syndrome is when a psychopath makes someone sick in order to feel validated, important. I think you have the wrong disease.


12 posted on 03/30/2011 2:34:17 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: LouAvul

To me, when people were more practical about marriage, they lasted longer. They didn’t care about lust or excitement, but about security and stability. They paid attention to personality traits and about patterns of behavior that were warning signs. Too many people my age aren’t being practical.


13 posted on 03/30/2011 2:37:28 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Smart enough to make piles of money, too.

I love Elizabeth, by the way. She was truly one of a kind and had star power of the greatest magnitude. I think she was genuinely unaware of her effect, to an extent, but she did have that “knowing” look when she wore her jewels like no one else could.

Given all that challenged her, she did her best and carried on quite well. I think this heroic streak is partly why she was and is loved so much.


14 posted on 03/30/2011 2:37:48 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: Vendome

She was brilliant as Cleopatra; when she, as Cleopatra, said about Octavia, “and they say she sleeps fully clothed” she skillfully made it sound so utterly silly (the concept of sleeping fully clothed of course) that I have spent a lot of time going over it in my mind. A pity she never returned to acting and I wager she would have been a huge draw.

As for her looks, WOWZA! Well curved, flawless skin, dazzling lashes, and she was so impressive at staying alive in an industry that kills legends young.


15 posted on 03/30/2011 2:39:55 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Callahan

The scene where she makes her grand entrance will never be as skillfully and colorfully done as it was then. Or as politically incorrect.


16 posted on 03/30/2011 2:41:32 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: La Enchiladita

All she went through was more than compensated by her accomplishements. She was one of the first (other than Michael Jackson) who actually genuinely CARED about AIDS victims before it was hip and trendy.


17 posted on 03/30/2011 2:44:05 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: theDentist

Wonder how the members of the press would like it if ordinary Joe Citizen dove deep into their pasts and then printed it all out? I don’t think they would care for that at all. They are without souls!!!


18 posted on 03/30/2011 2:47:40 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: Niuhuru
They weren’t tearing her down...

Give them time. They can't just spit on her immediately. A few chips here and there, then a hit piece, and after that the tell-all and the scrum is in full effect.

19 posted on 03/30/2011 2:59:15 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Niuhuru

Let the Liz trashing begin...


20 posted on 03/30/2011 3:12:39 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Niuhuru

Maybe it’s just me, but I read the whole article and didn’t see where her life was so hard that she deserves credit for “courage” or anything like that. I can only think that people who believe that she had it so rough must have had some pretty charmed lives, themselves. I’ve known dozens of people with far worse sob stories than hers who seemed to have handled their burdens far better.


21 posted on 03/30/2011 3:19:49 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Niuhuru

I read that she said prior to dying that Elizabeth Taylor wanted more than anything to see Richard (Burton, presumably) and her mother and father, so I’d take this with a grain of salt.

Apparently, she adored her parents till the very end. Good for her.


22 posted on 03/30/2011 3:31:34 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: fr_freak

Abuse comes in many forms, none of it good. If you understand the devastation it can cause to a child, the article makes perfect sense.


23 posted on 03/30/2011 4:10:26 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Abigail Adams
Abuse comes in many forms, none of it good. If you understand the devastation it can cause to a child, the article makes perfect sense.

I understand abuse well enough, and what you need to understand is that there are varying degrees of abuse. Unless the article is leaving out a lot of stuff, there is nothing so severe in Taylor's childhood or life that would excuse her self-destructive behavior. As I said, I have known a number of people with histories far worse than hers who don't act in such ways.Taylor, like all Hollywood types, is given sympathy and excuse because she was rich, famous, and pretty.
24 posted on 03/30/2011 4:38:55 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: theDentist; patriot08

They’re talking about how she was abused into entertaining by her abusive mother, they aren’t blaming her for it. If you read it carefully, such behavior was ingrained in her by her MOTHER who taught her to act a way on cue, beating her nonstop until she did and when she became famous and wanted ot quit acting, it was her mother who terrorized her right back into it.


25 posted on 03/30/2011 5:18:23 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: fr_freak

Abuse is abuse. She was badly abused into ‘performing’ and any abuse is bad to anyone and she doesn’t deserve to be diminished just because she couldn’t handle it well, as if she was supposed to.


26 posted on 03/30/2011 5:22:01 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: fr_freak

” Elizabeth’s future became the primary focus of Sara’s life, and Francis became a hen-pecked husband who was rarely allowed any time with their precious jewel.

Meanwhile, she coached their daughter relentlessly, forcing her to continue even when she was exhausted. Finally, the little girl was able to cry on cue — a talent that was to prove useful when she landed a movie contract soon afterwards.”

“One night, when she was 16, she confessed to her parents that she was sick and tired of making movies, and just wanted to be a regular child.
Sara, though, took her daughter’s cry for help as a sign of ingratitude.

‘But you’re not a regular child, and thank God for that,’ she told her. ‘You have a responsibility, Elizabeth. Not just to this family, but to the country now, the whole world.’”

Point made. Her mother abused her badly and her father sat by and let it happen. Perhaps her unending love of her parents is what caused her to act self destructively. It’s okay to hate the abusive parent and okay to hate the enabler who sat back and let it happen.


27 posted on 03/30/2011 5:26:20 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

yeah, I read it. At the moment, she’s a “victim”. In a while, 6 months or so, she’ll be portrayed as tough and mean to others when things don’ go her way because that’s how she was raised. And later she’ll just be an example of a terrible and spoiled human being.


28 posted on 03/30/2011 5:39:13 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

Some people deserve it, but not this woman. My only real regret is that I never got to meet her.


29 posted on 03/30/2011 5:44:05 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: mountainbunny

“Apparently, she adored her parents till the very end. Good for her.”

Maybe adoring parents was teh thing that made her so self destructive; people need ot be taught that it’s okay to hate your abusive parents, hate what they did to you. I read “The Toxic Parent” and the author writes that forgiveness doesn’t have to be given if the victim isn’t ready to do that. It’s okay to not frogive and only do it when the patient is ready, not the parent or the therapist.


30 posted on 03/30/2011 5:50:49 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru
Maybe adoring parents was teh thing that made her so self destructive; people need ot be taught that it’s okay to hate your abusive parents, hate what they did to you. I read “The Toxic Parent” and the author writes that forgiveness doesn’t have to be given if the victim isn’t ready to do that. It’s okay to not frogive and only do it when the patient is ready, not the parent or the therapist.

The Bible says something very different, and I think I'll go with it says over some author who thinks they have the answers.

Hate will consume you. I have a very abusive, violent, drug addicted, psychiatrically interesting parent. I have no hate, though. It's hard to rise above hate, but it's what we're supposed to do. It's what we're commanded to do. It isn't a suggestion.

For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins

You don't have to hate the person to avoid them or their toxic behavior.

Forgiveness is for the victim as much as it is for the aggressor.

Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times

Life isn't fair or easy. You don't have the right to hate just because someone did wrong by you.

31 posted on 03/30/2011 7:29:43 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: mountainbunny

I should have been more specific, anger. All I know is that I want to be sure that I’m ready to forgive on my terms and do it because I sincerely mean it.


32 posted on 03/30/2011 8:31:23 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Don’t know what point you’re making with this. What I am saying is that anyone who thinks this is a particularly hard level of abuse should get down on their knees and thank God for the charmed life they were given.


33 posted on 03/30/2011 9:14:38 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Niuhuru

Thank you for clarifying.

I found that the person in my life wasn’t worth the anger.

I tried to understand the “whys”, but I really don’t and probably never will. I chalk it up to something in their background and makeup, not mine, and let it go. I love them as a person, I respect and honor them for bringing me into the world, but that’s where it has to end. I harbor no thoughts about a reconciliation or a relationship in the future.

I can’t say that I have a lot of emotion one way or the other, except sorrow that it is the way it is, and regret that it couldn’t be better somehow. I do think that I did my very best and tried my hardest, which helps.

We’re asked to forgive and honor, and that is what I try to do. I can’t take the next step, though, and engage in a relationship. I’m not sure that we’re called to, first of all. And secondly, she is a destructive force in my life if she’s involved. I have a husband and the family we’ve created, and I have obligations to them first and foremost.

I believe that we can forgive but not forget. We need to respect ourselves enough to stay safe and sane for our own sakes and for our families.

I hope you find a way to forgive on your terms. I will keep you in my prayers.


34 posted on 03/30/2011 11:27:51 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Niuhuru

No, I think you have to extend your imagination a bit. Clearly, her mother pushed Liz to the point of illness in order to get the validation that she - the mother - clearly did not have in her own life.

Don’t be so literal. I said “psychic” Munchausen’s Syndrome By Proxy, which it very obviously is.


35 posted on 03/30/2011 11:30:13 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: LouAvul
Brats today get married thinking that insatiable lust/desire is the most important foundation.

I don't know about that. After close to thirty years, we're still at the insatiable lust stage.

36 posted on 03/31/2011 5:21:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Jack Hammer

I see now.


37 posted on 03/31/2011 7:32:27 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: mountainbunny

Thanks. Cutting the person out is best and with your family, you can in some ways redo certain aspects of your life and I am sure that your loving family more than makes up for it. Cutting them out and being indifferent is best.


38 posted on 03/31/2011 7:34:04 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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