Posted on 04/04/2011 10:58:03 AM PDT by BenLurkin
[B]y midcentury the white population will decrease to less than 50% and the Hispanic population might top one-third.
So what! As long as new and recent Hispanic immigrants buy into the American philosophy of freedom, rule of law and limited government, they will melt into American society and the grand American experiment in individual liberty can continue. ... what happened with previous waves of immigrants over the last 125 years.
Not exactly! In the late 1800s and early 1900s, the large Protestant white majority of US citizens worried that the incoming flood of southern and eastern Europeans - Italians, Greeks and Slavs; Catholics and Jews - would alter the character of the United States. Then, as now, the argument embodied in the italicized words above was made. And to many, it appears that that argument has been borne out. I would argue not. Those immigrants and their children and grandchildren have been in the vanguard of the progressive movement that has drastically altered the classical character of American society. It may be that progressive/socialist ideas originated in central and western Europe, but the virus was caught and brought by the eastern and southern European immigrants to our land; and it has infected a large percentage of the population.
Much of the progressive program is subscribed to by the Latinos who are cascading down upon our shores. Moreover, while it is also true that the more virulent strains of leftism such as multiculturalism, one world government, denial of American exceptionalism, denigration of Western Civilization and rabid environmentalism did not originate in Latin America; like their eastern and southern European precursors, the Latinos are infected by these philosophies, and by the sheer weight of their numbers, they will help to steer America further away from the historical path established by our Founders.
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Once the objective is taken, take control and enforce your system over the remaining populace.
Exactly. Most people (white people in particular) perceive warfare incorrectly. You don’t need tanks, naval fleets and apache helios to take over territory. Babies are the most sophisticated and effective war weapon ever devised. Babies will beat “tech” weapons every time.
“Not exactly! In the late 1800s and early 1900s, the large Protestant white majority of US citizens worried that the incoming flood of southern and eastern Europeans - Italians, Greeks and Slavs; Catholics and Jews - would alter the character of the United States.”
Difference is that those people came hear seeking a society free of European aristocracy and war.
They came here so ready to make themselves Americans that many went to live in the middle of nowhere in a sod house, and worked for everything they had. Some even changed their surnames, and refused to speak their native language because they wanted to fit in with their countrymen.
Many of today’s wave crossed the border illegally, cant speak a lick of English, and went right for the nearest welfare office.
With all shifts in the origin of those coming, there were at least subtle shifts in priorities, in social values and in personality traits. These were less extreme, when the settlers were still coming from European nations, with at least a history of interacting among themselves. Most of the settlers had at least a good notion of the values of those earlier settlers who had established the political & social institutions, here. Thus, although we got some who did not come because they valued those earlier values, many came precisely because they wanted to try to become a part of something, which they highly respected. This, unfortunately, is no longer the case, even among those coming from European nations.
As the Left has corrupted our Federal establishment, even the appearance of America in the world (ideologically & socially) has radically changed. Even those who do not see us as Socialistic, do not come really respecting the sort of individualistic/personal responsibility, open spaces, etc,, values, which used to generate continuing adherence to a certain ethos. There is a bit both of nature & nurture in this change; but the result is a gradual but accelerating shift towards a dependent population, that is all too willing to increasingly accept what many here would describe as the "Nanny State."
I have no animosity towards any people; but the first duty of any nation is its own continuity. That includes concern over whom it adopts into its fold; concern for preserving its achievements both material & spiritual for its own. These, in turn, include consideration for the space it is able to occupy; a recognition that it has only so many resources that it must husband; that the duty of any husband is to his own.
These are random thoughts, offered on the subject of your thread. My more carefully considered thoughts have been set forth in a number of articles. You might consider, for example: Immigration & The American Future.
Frankly, unless we are willing to openly discuss certain relevant issues, and come to an agreement how we may protect our heritage, we will not have a future.
One other point. Since Teddy Kennedy & his allies succeeded in turning our immigration policy upside down in 1965, we have seen our Leftists openly encourage a deliberate undermining of that heritage. What has been happening makes sense, only if the aim is to actually destroy the very concept of the Nation; the idea that each people is unique. That may not have been the motive for all who embrace it; but it is certainly the motive for some of the most avid of its supporters. If America is made indistinguishable from some form of homogenized humanity, we will have far less reason to reject a World Government--which would, of course, be the ultimate tyranny--one almost impossible to escape, with all freedom loving aspirations overwhelmed in a humanistic world wide ant hill.
William Flax
None of this changes the fact that the illegals should have been deported yesterday. Latin Americans (even the mestizos) are western people, something that can never be said of the Asians and middle easterners who arrive here in large numbers everyday.
The problem is that Bolshevism is also part of the cultural west.
At this point, we need intermarriage, stricter immigration enforcement, and the continued decline in LA birthrates to bail us out. The ONLY true indicator of assimilation is intermarriage.
100 years from now, Brandon Perez-Smith will be protesting the hordes of illegals from Africa.
Latinos are a western people who have high rates of intermarriage by the Third generation and come from a variety of races. Asians are non-western and therefore have less cultural kinship with Euro Americans than do Latinos. In areas where first and second generation Asians congregate in large numbers (see Bergen County NJ and the Bay Area) they tend to be quite clannish and not too fond of us lazy roundeyes. Many folks prefer Asians because of their bourgeois values, not because of cultural kinship.
We have ahad 3 generations of high immigration from 1965 to today. It is time to give us breathing room to assimilate immigrants and theur children. And at a time when we have 10% nominal unemployment and 20% underemployment, this is just common sense. We cant afford 1 to 2 million immigrants a year.
We have ahad 3 generations of high immigration from 1965 to today. It is time to give us breathing room to assimilate immigrants and theur children. And at a time when we have 10% nominal unemployment and 20% underemployment, this is just common sense. We cant afford 1 to 2 million immigrants a year.
However, the Latino immigration that will also change it yet again, is nothing like the earlier waves. For my French-Canadian grandmother to communicate with our Hungarian and Norwegian neighbors, they had to use at least a rudimentary form of English (at least I thought it was English. BTW, in our small industrial-town neighborhood there were so many kids whose grandparents, and some parents didn't speak English, that my sisters and I actually thought that as one grew older, one could lose the ability to speak it!)
The big differences: (1) The previous waves of immigration played out over a very long period. (!870-1935)
(2)The numbers were smaller. (6 million Italians, 3 million Jews, maybe a million Norwegians and Greeks ....
(4)There was little in the way of tax-supported subsidies
(5) I assure you there was no "Oprime número dos por Norwegian?"
The Latino takeover is a horse of a different color. There are already parts of the country where Spanish is mandatory for business. Latinos are the MAJORITY in the SW states of Texas and California, and soon will be elsewhere.
The government numbers are at least 20% off because of illegal immigration.
"We will take back Aztlán one baby at a time, one house at a time, 1 street, 1 town 1 state ... until we have it all back."
*"Mecha" en inglés = "Fuse" as in "dynamite."
The African contribution to American culture goes back centuries before the waves of immigrants that swept in during the 19th and 20th century.
I suspect that a certain amount of immigration is marriage-related. American men doing work or military service overseas often marry native women. Plus, a lot of American men deliberatly seek Asian or Hispanic wives.
As someone with significant Italian ancestry, I beg to differ. And Eastern Europeans immigrants, especially from places like Slovakia, Estonia, and Lithiania are some of the most patriotic and pro-capitalist people I know. Heck I know a lot more liberal nutcases with last names of Irish, Scottish, English, German and other W. European Origin than with Italian or Slavic surnames.
This basically reads like a thinly-veiled Nordic Supremacist article.
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