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The Military's Secret Shame (homosexual rape of men)
Newsweek ^ | April 8, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 04/08/2011 8:23:18 PM PDT by SaraJohnson

What happened to Jeloudov is a part of life in the armed forces that hardly anyone talks about: male-on-male sexual assault. In the staunchly traditional military culture, it’s an ugly secret, kept hidden by layers of personal shame and official denial. Last year nearly 50,000 male veterans screened positive for “military sexual trauma” at the Department of Veterans Affairs, up from just over 30,000 in 2003. For the victims, the experience is a special kind of hell—a soldier can’t just quit his job to get away from his abusers. But now, as the Pentagon has begun to acknowledge the rampant problem of sexual violence for both genders, men are coming forward in unprecedented numbers, telling their stories and hoping that speaking up will help them, and others, put their lives back together. “We don’t like to think that our men can be victims,” says Kathleen Chard, chief of the posttraumatic-stress unit at the Cincinnati VA. “We don’t want to think that it could happen to us. If a man standing in front of me who is my size, my skill level, who has been raped—what does that mean about me? I can be raped, too.”

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: dadt; homosexualagenda; maleonmalerape; military; militaryrape; militarysa
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This is upsetting.
1 posted on 04/08/2011 8:23:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Mark


2 posted on 04/08/2011 8:24:49 PM PDT by sport
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To: SaraJohnson

It’s only going to get worse since those two rump ranger benny boys Gates and Mullin got DADT repealed.


3 posted on 04/08/2011 8:26:10 PM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: NWFLConservative

I’m very surprised that liberal Newsweek magazine is publishing a story about homosexual rape in the military. Generally the MSM does not report anything which reflect badly on the homosexual community.

That said, it’s a serious issue, and the perpetrators should be severely dealt with.


4 posted on 04/08/2011 8:28:43 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SaraJohnson

Got frag? If you don’t, you need to.


5 posted on 04/08/2011 8:29:07 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SaraJohnson

You gotta be Fing kidding me.
What kind of people are in our military currently???
When I was in you would have had a corresponding number of dead homos


6 posted on 04/08/2011 8:29:21 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA
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To: Dilbert San Diego

How long do you think they have had this story? Do you think they held it off until the DADT survey went through? Do you think they held it until the promotion of gays was done?
Probably.


7 posted on 04/08/2011 8:31:21 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: SaraJohnson

Newsweek is generally untrustworthy. Sadly, however, this story seems accurate. I have heard of soldiers who asked to leave early were taken to the showers. Very sad.


8 posted on 04/08/2011 8:32:47 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: SaraJohnson

Fighting Group

9 posted on 04/08/2011 8:35:43 PM PDT by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: SaraJohnson

Yes it is, on many levels. I’m kind of surprised that Newsweek is reporting it.


10 posted on 04/08/2011 8:36:36 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: SaraJohnson

There were always stories of Gay Solders drugging others so that they can have their way with them.

The rumors circulated constantly, but never able to confirm any of them.

One of the rumors involved a young seaman, petty officer 1st, and a chief petty officer.

There was a closed captain’s mast and the official story was they all did drugs. We know what happened to the petty officer and the chief, they landed up an a correction custody unit but the seaman disappeared.

Again, never was able to confirm anything, but the rumor was something happened to the seaman that he didn’t want any part of.

Honestly, this DADT repeal bothered me because it gives special rights to homosexuals not given to heterosexuals. For anyone who has been in the Navy since tail hook, they know looking at a female the wrong way can land you on a report for sexual harassment.

For anyone who is a civilian, they can’t possibly understand how strict the military is once it gets its marching orders. There isn’t a rational comparison to civilian standards, they think you are fibbing when you tell them stories but you were there and experienced it.


11 posted on 04/08/2011 8:43:15 PM PDT by dila813
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Petraous gave us a heads up when he condemned the American who threatened to burn a Koran in protest of the Victory Mosque.

They have gone Muslim.


12 posted on 04/08/2011 8:43:37 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: dila813

It looks like gay rapists had protection to rape soldiers before the repeal of DADT. If you read the story, you will see that when the men reported the rape they were berated for being the cause of it or ignored. Left in their positions, they were raped and abused over and over again.

This fits with the changes in character we have seen for the darkside of our police officers, too. And prisons...many Americans think prision rape is soooo funny.

The effect rape has on men is much worse that it is for women raped by men. Given there are so many victims (50,000), you know it’s not just a passing problem. The military has adopted the prison rape ethic. Character has fallen into the gutter.

No wonder they hate Christians and adore Muslims now!


13 posted on 04/08/2011 8:50:55 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

“This is upsetting.”

It’s not upsetting, it’s Bull Squish!

Newsweak never met a negative image of the military that it didn’t like.


14 posted on 04/08/2011 8:55:51 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Falconspeed

That is what I thought, too. If anything Newsweek would usually ignore gay rape.

The other thing that is confusing is that they claim the rapists are usually “heterosexual.” If you are driven to have sex with men and with women that would make you bi-sexual. You can’t be a heterosexual man and be raping men.


15 posted on 04/08/2011 8:58:01 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
As a man, I always preferred the heterosexual rape of men... except by fat women... and cougars...
16 posted on 04/08/2011 9:02:37 PM PDT by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
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To: Rembrandt
Uhhh...no its not. I've been in 24 years and one of my additional duties for my Wing is I am a Victim Advocate for the SAPR program.

It is a growing problem...and so are the number of prosecutions. It isn't as widespread as male-female SA but it exists.

17 posted on 04/08/2011 9:02:57 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: SaraJohnson

By all means, let’s encourage faggots to join the military. And to be Boy Scout leaders. Heck, I even saw a fag on Glocktalk talk about how he and his queer lover recently adopted two boys (in the state of Oregon). And some of the idiots on Glocktalk applauded it like the fools they are.


18 posted on 04/08/2011 9:08:02 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Porterville

That makes perfect sense. You should be an expert sexual abuse counselor. ;)


19 posted on 04/08/2011 9:11:46 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

I believe the UCMJ permits field execution for such cases in active combat zones.

Uniform Code of Military Justice, read it years back. Anyone who can find this provision on line today is a better man than me. Somewhere in article 77 or 120.


20 posted on 04/08/2011 9:14:41 PM PDT by mmercier
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To: LouAvul

Boys and men are in deep trouble with what is going on in our culture. Aggressive homosexuality is promoted and protected in our society now.

I hope we, as a society, don’t continue to deny what is happening. And I hope we can learn to stop blaming the victim for what has happened to him. We need to go after abusers like bats out of hell - the same way we have gone after the sexual abusers of women.

The other thing going on is the dropping of taboos against adults sexually interacting verbally or physically with minors.

Man, we better get on top of this or we are going to have a whole generation raped. Sexual abuse is going hyper aggressive.


21 posted on 04/08/2011 9:18:44 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

very


22 posted on 04/08/2011 9:20:50 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Netizen
This is a primer piece from Newsweek so that the public won't be “surprised” by all of the harassment complaints that start when DADT goes into full gear. Didn't you know the Army is just like prison?! I was in for almost 8 years as an officer. Secrets last about 15 minutes in a unit. This kind of crap wasn't going on - plenty of other stuff does, but not this.
23 posted on 04/08/2011 9:22:15 PM PDT by usma1998
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To: mmercier
US Code 10 G 654 possibly.

These guys and gals dump out more data than the frigging nyt.

Everyone knows how these things work out on the ground anyhow.

24 posted on 04/08/2011 9:30:45 PM PDT by mmercier (baffle them with bull$hit)
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To: LouAvul
About two years ago, a couple of white Duke University employees adopted 2 black boys. The youngest was about 4 years old. Of course all the Duke professors thought this was great. It turned out that one of the two offered the young boy for sex on the Internet. He got caught in a sting. The partner said he didn't know anything about it and was not prosecuted.
25 posted on 04/08/2011 9:36:19 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: SaraJohnson

Sexual assault has more to do with a struggle for power and dominance over the victim than it does with sexual attraction. A surprising number of rapists have girlfriends in consensual relationships too. And in concentration camps, like those under the Argentine military dictatorship in the 70s and 80s, it wasn’t unheard of for heterosexual guards to rape male prisoners.


26 posted on 04/08/2011 9:52:16 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: dila813
"There were always stories of Gay Solders drugging others so that they can have their way with them.

The rumors circulated constantly, but never able to confirm any of them."

I spent 11 years in the Army, and never heard anything of the sort. Not saying there weren't (suspected) closeted homos around, but the only soldiers I knew who actually got out on homo discharges were dirtbag losers who were looking for any way out of the service.

I don't know what to believe. On one hand, I want to call BS on the article, but on the other hand, today's Army (and military in general) isn't the same one I left in '96. Years of homo acceptance in society had done irreparable damage to the services, I fear.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

27 posted on 04/08/2011 9:54:05 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? www.myspace.com/10poundtest)
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To: mmercier

You know how our society thinks male on male rape in prision is funny or of no real consequence...I think the military has picked up some of that attitude.

I would be perfectly fine with me if a victim- male or female - executed her or his military rapist. However, if it is dependent upon a higher up’s decision to execute, it looks doubtful because they are not taking it as seriously as it is.

They might have 50,000 male victims of homosexual rape. Heterosexual males don’t really have any protection from this in culture or in legal activism. Gays have protection to be as aggressive as they want to be sexually. There is a serious imbalance of power and heterosexual men are going to suffer from that.


28 posted on 04/08/2011 9:59:25 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SoCal SoCon

Oh, that is way gross. We have to make that so taboo in our society. We can begin by ending the prision rape of males.


29 posted on 04/08/2011 10:02:31 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: FR_addict

Here’s that story:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6527432/


30 posted on 04/08/2011 10:06:01 PM PDT by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: SaraJohnson

I don’t know. The timing is suspicious. And with the current people in charge, we know they hate the military, and want to destroy its moral, and destroy its reputation among the US civilian population. Someone on the site calling herself Sarah Nabb says she is a victim of Military Sexual Trauma (MST). Never heard of that before. Sounds like a new Leftist term to blame the military as a whole for the actions of a few sick individuals. Plus she talks about how they are all “heroes”. More Dem talking points. Like I said, the article sounds suspicious.


31 posted on 04/08/2011 10:06:11 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Must be the navy.


32 posted on 04/08/2011 10:17:31 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Clock King

I trust the Marxists - who are in control of culturally cleansing our soicety of sexual norms - as far as I can throw them.

On the other hand, I have been witnessing an increase in male on male rape and seeing the prision culture where raping males is considered just or funny, seeping out into our culture in general. When boys are raped, they often rape other boys.

I don’t want to deny evil because that is how it grows and gets more powerful. So, I will beleive this until based on the testimony of the men who were humilated and raped until it is proven otherwise given what is going on in our society in general. The military is no better than the Americans they recruit. Americans, especially children, are being bombarded by aggressive cultural cleansing in the name of gay normalization.


33 posted on 04/08/2011 10:25:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: mmercier
I believe the UCMJ permits field execution for such cases in active combat zones.

I believe that is still true; the UCMJ lists the relevant penalties, and those allowing for immediate execution are appended with "... shall be punished by death or such punishment as a court-martial may direct." See ART. 99. MISBEHAVIOR BEFORE THE ENEMY under Section X: Punitive Articles for example.

34 posted on 04/08/2011 10:53:18 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: NWFLConservative

I’m very surprised that liberal Newsweek magazine is publishing a story about homosexual rape in the military. Generally the MSM does not report anything which reflects badly on the homosexual community.

That said, it’s a serious issue, and the perpetrators should be severely dealt with.


35 posted on 04/08/2011 10:57:57 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: brityank
920. ART... something... They are prolific with the verbiage.

Rape is subject to the death penalty.

It is in there, thank you for the link.

36 posted on 04/08/2011 11:10:46 PM PDT by mmercier
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To: mmercier

Also meant to add, the UCMJ normally specifies that the respective penalty be determined after a finding of guilt by Courts Martial. This doesn’t list it as one of the possible results of a CM; there is no requirement of any legal action other than by a commanding officer’s discretion.


37 posted on 04/08/2011 11:11:10 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: SaraJohnson

Just like the Catholic priests who buggered little boys—and only little boys—were pedophiles rather than homosexuals. Now if you pointed out to a lib that they were homosexual pedophiles...well you were the one with the problem. Ah, the lieberal mind.


38 posted on 04/08/2011 11:16:39 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: brityank
>> commanding officers discretion <<

I have one or two of them in the family.

They do not say much regarding this particular subject that I would relate publicly.

In short form, the units generally police themselves out of their moral base, regardless of the desires or orders issued by higher ranking personnel.

The officers understand this, and in fact count on such as a simple mechanism of unit control.

I get a kick out of the leftists who hate the military... They have no conception of cohesion or morality required to keep a pack of twentysomethings with automatic firearms and hand grenades in order. They do it all on their own, and they do it finer than any other force on the planet amongst themselves. They reach a balance... Or they die.

39 posted on 04/09/2011 12:01:05 AM PDT by mmercier (the hammer)
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To: SaraJohnson

I’ve often thought that it was a strange think that normally decent people think rape in prison is funny. Every time Jay Leno, or some other comic, makes a joke about it, the audience roars. I can only assume that some are laughing because they finally feel the victim is getting justice, or payback. Still, it’s not amusing.


40 posted on 04/09/2011 12:10:39 AM PDT by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: usma1998

I agree about secrets in an Army unit. I got out after being an enlisted guy in the Army for 20+ years in 2004. I never heard anything about stuff like this in the Army. 50,000 guys? I also cannot imagine a CO telling a victim of something like this that it must have been his fault when he reported it. I call pure BS on it.


41 posted on 04/09/2011 12:11:06 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: elhombrelibre
“I’ve often thought that it was a strange think that normally decent people think rape in prison is funny.”

Political correctness features an unholy alliance between the gays and feminists. It runs up and down the entertainment world. Second wave feminists hate men. Gays lust after them. End of story.

Yukking it up about man rape is a staple of metrosexuals. It fits right in with this insane P.C. religion that runs the world.

42 posted on 04/09/2011 12:19:37 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Rembrandt; NELSON111
Concur with the Bravos Sierra assessment on this story, Rembrandt. With more BS piled higher and deeper with this UCMJ offense "not being recognized as an offense until '92". Remembering 1992 with Tailhook(er); when a handful of Navy Aviators didn't pay prostitutes for services performed. MSM distorted the truth on that one too.

Anyway, Newsweak alleges the victim is 35YOA male; except this soldier's story doesn't even match the homosexual asault demographics which Newsweak supplies. Seems more like Tailhooker, again. Newsweak even fails to mention each of the military branches have different maximum age for enlistment.

Which leads me mention of the fraudulent data supporting the repeal of DADT. The methodology and means for collection of data is a crime.

Forcing service members to first watch a "required annual training" online course that demands sensitivity towards the civilian homosexual employee's sexual preferences. Members must take a quiz where questions covers Commandant's sexual harassment policy.

Then, force service members to take an "anonymous" online "attitudes toward homosexuality survey," where a member's rank, sex, age, and department which the member works, is all required demographic information to complete the survey. In a service as small as the USCG, any fool could accurately match the survey results to the individual that took it. Few members want any trouble for providing politically incorrect "wrong" answers.

Needless to say, the resultant data isn't even worth the drive space the study occupied; and that's why the left loves the data.

43 posted on 04/09/2011 12:47:30 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

How better to keep a young man from entering the military? Newsweak has done its job admirably.


44 posted on 04/09/2011 12:53:29 AM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: jospehm20
I got out after being an enlisted guy in the Army for 20+ years in 2004. I never heard anything about stuff like this in the Army. 50,000 guys? I also cannot imagine a CO telling a victim of something like this that it must have been his fault when he reported it. I call pure BS on it.

I was in for 15 years and I, too, never even heard a hint of this. I find it very hard to believe this 50,000 number.

45 posted on 04/09/2011 12:54:02 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: dila813

As the Chief Master at Arms, (Navy equivalent to a cop), I investigated and prosecuted, (at Captains Mast), many gays for this type of activity. I was able to have numerous gays courts martialed for this also.

I had one 3rd class petty officer that told me during a pre discharge interview that his supervisor, a 2nd class, got him drunk and then tried to rape him at the 2nd class’ apartment. The 3rd class hit the 2nd class with a telephone and ran.

The reason that 3rd class was not re-enlisting was because of this 2nd class. If the 3rd class had stayed in the Navy, he would have remained on the ship with the 2nd class. We were at sea at the time and I had to put the 2nd class in a 24 hr protective custody while doing the investigation. Several other junior enlisted came forward with rape and attempted rape charges against the 2nd class and we were able to courts martial him.

Believe me when I say an active gay onboard ship at sea is really bad for moral, and can be a serious threat to the gay’s life. The ocean is unforgiving if you happen to “fall overboard” at night in the middle of the Pacific.


46 posted on 04/09/2011 2:28:28 AM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: SaraJohnson
Newsweak is anti-military and anti-American. I don't believe anything it prints.
47 posted on 04/09/2011 3:52:47 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: SaraJohnson

As retired (and utterly discredited ) Judge Vaughn Walker proves by its admission that he is caught in that web of homosexual deceit.But did NOT recuse himself because he (mistakenly -or was it more sinister-by design) did not believe his Sexual orientation affected his decision making.
No Officer, Educator, Politician, Judge—Nor anyone in any position of Trust ought be trusted if they are suspected of thinking they are or that “it’s ok to be gay” such people are beyond the reasonable factor of trust. They will betray EVERYTHING outside their corrupted (dementia?) Orientation.
Yes the Newsweek piece is disturbing but Newsweek has Long been governed by those who are or have already been captured by the homosexual militants.NOBODY should celebrate the corruption of our Armed Forces by the Presidential mandate to allow open sodomy within the ranks.


48 posted on 04/09/2011 5:13:28 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: SaraJohnson

Ahhh Newsweek....propaganda by timing and call it news.


49 posted on 04/09/2011 6:50:54 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SaraJohnson

Anyone who chooses to believe ANYTHING Newsweek prints about the military has problems sufficient to discredit their opinions.


50 posted on 04/09/2011 7:13:22 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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