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Experts solve mystery of ancient stone monument near Atlanta
Examiner ^ | 11 April 2011 | Richard Thornton

Posted on 04/12/2011 12:01:12 PM PDT by Palter

Rock art specialists from around North America have finally solved this century old archaeological riddle. The stone slab is evidence that native peoples from Puerto Rico or Cuba once lived within the interior of Eastern North America.

One day, long before Christopher Columbus claimed to have landed on the eastern edge of Asia, a forgotten people cut steps in the rocks leading up a steep bluff near the Chattahoochee River in the northwest section of the State of Georgia. They carved a supernatural figure on a four feet by one foot granite slab and erected it on the top of the knoll. The strange, primitive art was very different than the highly realistic stone sculptures found in the region that are known to have been created by the ancestors of Georgia’s Creek Indians.

During the mid-1800s a major industrial complex was developed near the ancient rock shrine. Somehow during the town’s construction, the tablet was overlooked; most likely because of a covering of soil. The town was called New Manchester. It would have inevitably become a major city of the Southeast, but in the autumn of 1864 the notorious Union general, William Tecumseh Sherman, ordered the town burned, and the hundreds of teenage girls who worked at its mills transported to a concentration camp in the Ohio. Many of the girls were never seen again. Some died in prison. Some married and stayed in the Midwest. Some were murdered while they tried to walk home after the war. Some probably went to the West to start life anew away from the ruins of war. Some just dissappeared without a trace.

The ruins of New Manchester have remained a testimony to the fact that war is hell.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: caribbean; cuba; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; petroglyph; puertorico; stones

1 posted on 04/12/2011 12:01:20 PM PDT by Palter
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.
2 posted on 04/12/2011 12:03:35 PM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Palter; rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; ...
Very interesting.

Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 12:08:02 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Palter

Prehistoric 7-11’s?


4 posted on 04/12/2011 12:09:28 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Palter

Evidently the guy who wrote up this story is not a Yankee. A couple of lines about the stone and then a diatribe on all the Yankee sins in the surrounding area.


5 posted on 04/12/2011 12:09:39 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley
then a diatribe on all the Yankee sins in the surrounding area.

Actually, he left a hell of a lot out regarding the sins of war that Sherman and his troops committed.

6 posted on 04/12/2011 12:16:00 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: Palter

So, we can now add to the politcally correct history of the United States the following: the white man stole part of the country from the Puerto Ricans!


7 posted on 04/12/2011 12:17:53 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Palter

More ancient aliens.


8 posted on 04/12/2011 12:21:03 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Palter

Babalu-aye!


9 posted on 04/12/2011 12:22:50 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Palter

Good crappie fishing in the Chattahoochie.


10 posted on 04/12/2011 12:33:38 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Palter
native peoples from Puerto Rico or Cuba once lived within the interior of Eastern North America.
What, before welfare? I feckin' doubt it.
11 posted on 04/12/2011 12:36:31 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Palter

“Snakes! ai-EEEEE!”


12 posted on 04/12/2011 12:36:40 PM PDT by Adder (Part 1 Accomplished)
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To: oh8eleven

Are stereotypes part of your normal conversation skills?

I hate it when a former fellow Marine does that.

BTW, I was in the ‘nam too, late 1966 to late 1967. That picture of yours, with the 5 marines on a mountaintop, looks vaguely familiar to me.


13 posted on 04/12/2011 12:57:32 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Palter

14 posted on 04/12/2011 1:24:24 PM PDT by poindexters brother
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To: Palter

Well there you have it!

Fidel can now say all America belong to us!


15 posted on 04/12/2011 1:29:50 PM PDT by Rock N Jones
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To: adorno
Are stereotypes part of your normal conversation skills?
Most "stereotypes" don't just happen, they're modeled on some amount of reality - like 'Nam vets. Grow a thicker skin ... I have.
I was on the DMZ: Con Thien, C2, Gio Linh, Cam Lo, etc.
The picture in question is further south at the Rockpile and the one to the left of it is Camp Carroll.
16 posted on 04/12/2011 2:03:27 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Most "stereotypes" don't just happen,

Stereotypes are often simple-minded ways to brand an entire group. I know Puerto Ricans, with me being one of them, and most that I know are not welfare recipients. That's why I know that, using the stereotype that you did is idiotic. Stereotypes are merely exaggerations meant to ridicule and demean people. I don't use them, and I don't expect my friends to use them.

they're modeled on some amount of reality

Most are exaggerations, and they don't really reflect reality. Reality and exaggerations are not the same thing.

- like 'Nam vets.

I'm a 'nam vet, and I don't feel particularly persecuted. If anybody inquires about my military service, I proudly point out how I was a veteran of the Marines who served in Vietnam. No shame, and no one to blame.

Grow a thicker skin ... I have.

It's not that simple. Not when the stereotypes are meant to be harmful and demeaning. They're very distasteful and idiotic, and therefore, I don't use them. Perhaps, instead of growing a thick skin, you should've grown smarter.



When it comes to the "'nam", I served around the Danang and Chu-lai areas, with the 1st Marine Division, 1st Tank Battalion.
17 posted on 04/12/2011 3:17:16 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

Did your tank have carpet on the dash?

[Ducks, runs]


18 posted on 04/12/2011 3:19:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: adorno
I don't use them, and I don't expect my friends to use them.
I'm not your friend. SF, Mac.
19 posted on 04/12/2011 3:40:35 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
I don't use them, and I don't expect my friends to use them.

I'm not your friend. SF, Mac.

Obviously not. I know how to choose my friends wisely.
20 posted on 04/12/2011 3:49:42 PM PDT by adorno
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To: AppyPappy
Did your tank have carpet on the dash?

[Ducks, runs]

Nope! No carpet. Just pictures of the enemy on the dashboard and on the outside.

And, I'm pretty sure that, ducking and running would not have helped you against a few tank rounds, and for certain, not against a flame tank. ;)

BTW, I neither drove the tanks, nor did I fire the rounds. I ordered the firing of the rounds and the flames, so you had better be on my good side over there. ;)
21 posted on 04/12/2011 3:57:38 PM PDT by adorno
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Thanks Palter.

sweetwater creek petroglyph
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At first glance it appears to be a rebus. and since it uses familiar letters, a modern carving.

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22 posted on 04/12/2011 4:08:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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This might be up someone's alley, ESOP sent out courtesy copies of this to members back in 1983.
23 posted on 04/12/2011 4:13:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Palter
It is very significant evidence that Native Americans originally from Puerto Rico, Cuba or Hispaniola paddled to the Florida Peninsula; followed the Gulf Coast up to the mouth of the Apalachicola-Chattahoochee River; then ulitimately settled in the vicinity of what is now Atlanta.

How do they know it wasn't the other way around?

24 posted on 04/12/2011 4:20:39 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Being easterners, they forgot to look along the San Juan River and especially Sand Island for very similar male petroglyphs.


25 posted on 04/12/2011 4:30:17 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: SunkenCiv

Have you read the debunking of Fell’s article published a few years later? http://cwva.org/ogam_rebutal/wirtz.html It seems that Fell was a fraud.


26 posted on 04/13/2011 6:29:25 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Whatever Fell’s mistakes were here and there, he wasn’t a fraud. Anyone who says he was simply doesn’t know what they’re talking about.


27 posted on 04/14/2011 7:22:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

I know nothing about ancient Irish writing, but that rebuttal pointed out very convincingly that experts agreed that Fell’s claiks regarding the WV caves were completely illogical and without merit. From what I read, one would have to suspend disbelief to make Fell’s theory even plausible. There is some solud evidence of a pre-Columbian European presence in North America, but those cave etchings ain’t it.


28 posted on 04/15/2011 3:23:13 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Fell was continually attacked by some people who are/were dead set against acceptance of PreColumbian voyages of any kind, yes: but the claims they made are “illogical and without merit”. The tone was set by “Archaeology” magazine, which called one of his books “a candidate for burning”.


29 posted on 04/15/2011 4:48:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Palter

30 posted on 05/15/2011 10:10:56 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: SunkenCiv; Palter

I live 7 miles from Sweetwater park. Grew up going there...went down it’s class three and four rapids(Was ignorant at the time)on an innertube when I was 16. At 45, I use a kayak.

Just found the article about the petroglyphs this past weekend.

This entire area was well populated with Mississipian peoples. Sweetwater, The Chattahoochie, Dog River, Annewake creek, and the etowah all hold artifacts. So does the flint down south. Not twenty odd miles north is the Etowah mound complex...which very closely resembles kolomoki in structure and artifacts.

I’d be very interested in hearing y’alls opinion. My non-professional, non-educated opinion is it is the work of peoples living here.

That section of Sweetwater is different and sacred. For most of it’s 45 mile length, Sweetwater creek is a slow moving ditch. Then, through it’s one mile run through the creek, it’s transformed into a wide, rocky, raging mountain river. Interestingly enough, the creek bed through the park is the exposed Brevard fault line, which marks the boundry between the end of hill country and the Appalachains.


31 posted on 11/17/2012 8:39:34 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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Thanks Vigilantcitizen.


32 posted on 11/19/2012 4:09:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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