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Friend describes fan attack [Dodger Stadium Thugs vs. Giants fan]
ESPN Los Angeles ^ | April 12, 2011 | Ramona Shelburne

Posted on 04/12/2011 1:33:01 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

A friend who was with the San Francisco Giants fan who was brutally beaten on Opening Day described a scene that went from "intimidating to hostile."

Appearing on the "Mason and Ireland" show Monday on 710 ESPN Radio in Los Angeles, Corey Maciel said that approaching Dodger Stadium in Giants gear that day was not comfortable from the get-go.

"It was pretty hostile just walking up to the stadium -- it was intimidating, to say the least," he said. "There were a lot of Dodgers fans angry that we were there. We got things thrown at us the whole time we were there -- peanuts, hot dogs, wrappers -- which we also expected."

"We were walking out and the mood definitely changed from intimidating to hostile once we got into the parking lot," Maciel said. "We were actually out there, we were saying great game, shaking some Dodgers fans hands. There were some that were yelling profanities, and just being rowdy. That's how it started.

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"We all kept walking. We didn't say anything," he said. "We just knew we needed to get out of there. We needed to avoid this confrontation. About five minutes later, they came up from behind us, and they caught us when we were all a little bit spread out. I never saw it coming. My other friend Jeff got hit in the mouth and Bryan got hit from behind. He got hit in the side of the head and never saw it coming.
1 posted on 04/12/2011 1:33:08 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: Misterioso; dfwgator; Smogger; pogo101; biff; Secret Agent Man; GSWarrior; Pelham; Yaelle; ...

I’ve been wondering who the other guys with Bryan were, when we were going to hear from them, and finally got my answer here.

According to what we know so far, it was clearly an unprovoked attack.

This needs to be treated as what happened at Dodger Stadium specifically, not in sports in general. It is a problem that the Dodgers organization, imo, has created and fostered.


2 posted on 04/12/2011 1:37:24 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: La Enchiladita

We’ve been invaded by the south of the border crowd. They brought their violent culture with them.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 1:40:01 PM PDT by Carley (UNION AGITATORS, NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: La Enchiladita

well lets all give these wonderful people amnesty for being here illegally.(can you not recognize sarcasm?)


4 posted on 04/12/2011 1:43:27 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: La Enchiladita
I read this and I thought - My God. He walked right into his own funeral....
 

Near the end of the game, apparently after assessing the behavior of some of the people in the stands, Stow sent a text message to a relative to say he feared for his safety. A paramedic by trade, Stow is a man we may presume doesn’t frighten easily, and indeed his fears were tragically borne out. After the game, as he and two companions walked through the parking lot in search of a taxi, they were set upon by two men who pushed Stow to the ground before beating and kicking him into a coma.
 
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2703494/posts


5 posted on 04/12/2011 1:45:21 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: La Enchiladita

LAT had the lapd composite on their website a few days ago.

Couple of straight-up Surenos.


6 posted on 04/12/2011 1:53:34 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Thanks for the ping. Just disgusting what happened.

Why would anyone, particularly someone wishing openly to support a VISITING team, ever take the money, time and trouble to ATTEND a game under such circumstances? Nearly all games are available on TV, and it’s just not worth the risk.


8 posted on 04/12/2011 2:10:26 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: La Enchiladita
It is a problem that the Dodgers organization, imo, has created and fostered.

No, I blame the perp. As always. Not "society," whether you define it as a city or a sports franchise.

9 posted on 04/12/2011 2:12:13 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: Mayr Fortuna

you forgot, hit from behind or blindsided.

never man to man


10 posted on 04/12/2011 2:12:18 PM PDT by sappy (LIEberals suck)
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To: absalom01

Yep - just gutter trash. We are so sick of this vermin in L.A. I live near Dodger Stadium and was able to stop over there yesterday to donate. Lots of tears and everyone was waving and honking their horns for the paramedics coordinating the event. It was a very emotional atmosphere.


11 posted on 04/12/2011 2:27:05 PM PDT by Irishgirl
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To: Irishgirl

Thank you for the report. From what I saw on the news, people in L.A. are heartbroken about this.


12 posted on 04/12/2011 2:29:21 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Well yes, the hooligans ARE to blame for their own behavior.
But I was also making the point that the Dodgers organization, along with L.A. city government, have gone way overboard with “hispandering.”
It’s totally ridiculous and gives them a feeling of dominance and entitlement.
They will do things that no one else can get away with.


13 posted on 04/12/2011 2:31:59 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: pogo101

This is why I won’t wear a rival jersey to a hostile stadium. Most of the fans are civil but there’s a small percentage who cross the line and they always have you outnumbered. I had a close call while at a Philadelphia Eagles game with two of my friends. They are both big Dallas Cowboy fans, so they wore their Cowboy shirts into the stadium. The last thing I wanted to do was get in a fight over a Cowboys team I’ve hated since childhood.


14 posted on 04/12/2011 4:09:57 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: La Enchiladita

Thanks for pinging me, and for your updates and reports. This is such a sickening incident. Hoping they get these perps.


15 posted on 04/13/2011 1:17:04 PM PDT by truthkeeper ( Life is a pre-existing condition - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: truthkeeper

I also check news every morning to learn whether the perps have been caught.


16 posted on 04/13/2011 1:19:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: La Enchiladita

This makes me so upset every day. I despise that we have allowed thugs to roam free like this. They are not civilized. They have decivilized to packs of wild dogs. I pray for Bryan’s recovery.


17 posted on 04/13/2011 1:21:38 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: pogo101
Why would anyone, particularly someone wishing openly to support a VISITING team, ever take the money, time and trouble to ATTEND a game under such circumstances? Nearly all games are available on TV, and it’s just not worth the risk.

Can you believe what you have just said? That your expectations are such that a home team's fans will viciously attack opposing teams' fans? Unacceptable. (Not that I'd advocate doing that after this, just that in a civilized society one should expect decent behavior from both teams' fans at all sporting events.)

Being a "good sport" means winning, losing, and cheering with class and respect.

18 posted on 04/13/2011 1:24:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

This allows me to make the point that many hispanics don’t care for this behavior either. Many mexican-american families are very conservative and quiet in their behavior. I’ve seen them at the stadium being very quiet, almost staid.

The criminal element is entirely different and has gotten out of hand, from the POV of the majority.

My solution is I go to day games only and take the shuttle from Union Station, avoiding the parking lot.


19 posted on 04/13/2011 1:27:57 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t think we disagree about what SHOULD be. I’m saying that such sportsmanship obviously is lacking. If you’re saying my choice to avoid most games (when “my” team is the visiting team) is “unacceptable,” well, I’m not really interested in whether my choice would also be your choice.


20 posted on 04/13/2011 1:30:01 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: La Enchiladita

Hispanic Americans are often forced to live in these gang-ridden neighborhoods, can’t do the right thing (report criminals) or their own kids will be killed... Half the time their kids get into trouble too. I know a wonderful woman whose daughter was “taken” at 14 by a gang, semi-voluntarily, but a 14-year-old doesn’t have the wisdom to know why she shouldn’t go with these creeps.

I imagine good Latino Dodgers fan are very upset indeed about this thug behavior at the games.


21 posted on 04/13/2011 1:35:16 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: pogo101

No, no. Your decision not to go to away games is WISE. But it’s unacceptable that we — not you personally — have to make a decision like that, if we live in a civilized society.

I guess we don’t, though.

And do you know why? Political Correctness. It brain-damaged Bryan, and it is gonna kill the rest of us. If everyone in Dodger Stadium were white, the cops would not allow this thuggery. For decades people have bent over backward, saying that poverty causes bad behavior, and it’s everyone else’s fault that these people are poor. Skin color and ethnicity have long TRUMPED decent civilized behavior. They get bonus points just for being “ethnic” and there are lower expectations for their behavior.


22 posted on 04/13/2011 1:39:24 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Yeah, I understand you now, sorry. It is a darn shame. PC indeed plays a role. The soft bigotry of low expectations can have a “hard landing.” :(


23 posted on 04/13/2011 1:51:44 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

Yeah, that is for sure. His buddy just did an interview on KFI AM now. Chilling to hear how unprovoked and cowardly that attack was.


24 posted on 04/13/2011 4:43:10 PM PDT by Yaelle
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