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Private Rocket Firm Under Pressure to Fill Space Shuttle Void
space.com ^ | 04/13/11 | Denise Chow

Posted on 04/17/2011 7:35:03 AM PDT by KevinDavis

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Private rocket builder SpaceX is trying to speed up testing of its new Dragon spaceship to enable it to visit the International Space Station on the next demonstration flight.

With NASA's space shuttle programset to retire later this year, the pressure is on for commercial providers to compensate for the loss of the shuttles' enormous cargo-carrying capability.

(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dragon; space; spacex

1 posted on 04/17/2011 7:35:11 AM PDT by KevinDavis
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To: originalbuckeye; Kevmo; LuvFreeRepublic; LittleBillyInfidel; LucyT; HighWheeler; ChuckHam; ...



2 posted on 04/17/2011 7:36:12 AM PDT by KevinDavis ( Anyone who backs Trump is a chump..)
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To: KevinDavis

“Dragon?”

Are you sure this isn’t made in China?


3 posted on 04/17/2011 7:38:21 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: KevinDavis

Privatize Orion and bring back the Saturn V.


4 posted on 04/17/2011 7:38:21 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: KevinDavis
Thanks for posting. I have a friend whose husband works for SpaceX and I have been following their activities for a long time. I hope we SOON have something in the way of manned spaceflight again. Obummer’s plan for NASA to become just a Muslim outreach program is ridiculous.
5 posted on 04/17/2011 7:41:06 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: KevinDavis
"What we've been told by NASA is that if we don't reach the space station by the end of this year, there's a risk that they will have to de-man the space station next year.

Build it for over a decade and then toss it in the ocean if private industry doesn't save it...........brilliant.

We should be on Mars and using that base to move out of through the solar system, damn gov't

6 posted on 04/17/2011 7:41:49 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: KevinDavis

Spacex could easily fulfill NASA’s needs and save them a lot of money. Their Falcon Heavy will have 1/2 the LEO payload capacity of a Saturn V and cost around $100/lb. to LEO. That’s more than an order of magnitude less than the obsolete shuttles could provide.


7 posted on 04/17/2011 7:42:43 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Brett66

Correction- that’s more than two orders of magnitude less.


8 posted on 04/17/2011 7:44:06 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: originalbuckeye
Obummer’s plan for NASA to become just a Muslim outreach program is ridiculous.

Mussies in space and Dr James Hensen on the ground preaching the global warming hoax.

Two more of 0bama's mountain of failures.

9 posted on 04/17/2011 7:52:44 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: TYVets

For the most part, NASA’s shortcomings are due to political meddling. But people should know during this transition in manned spaceflight that NASA has an incredibly successful unmanned program, which gets little attention.


10 posted on 04/17/2011 8:01:43 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average. Politicians come from the other half.)
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To: KevinDavis
For me this is a good transition, and oddly one of the few good things Obama has done, to speed private space development. For me NASA had a giant jump the shark moment when the Russians started selling rides, and NASA scoffed at the Russians for demeaning space by putting capitalists in it. The next wave in space is precisely to put capitalists in space.
11 posted on 04/17/2011 8:21:37 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: KevinDavis
Well, good. If we can privatize space travel, we can privatize rail travel, auto manufacturing, home loans, student loans, etc.

In other words, if we can put a man on the moon....

12 posted on 04/17/2011 8:24:20 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: KevinDavis

And just who is doing the pressuring?

Are federal dollars being dangled as incentive?

Salazar has decimated the energy industry in CO, perhaps this is a payoff to that state?


13 posted on 04/17/2011 8:33:09 AM PDT by Carley ( TYPICAL STREET THUG, NASTY BULLY, THAT'S OUR PRESIDENT.)
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To: KevinDavis

To truly move forward in space, private industry needs to be free to do more than play taxi and freight hauler.


14 posted on 04/17/2011 8:40:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: KevinDavis
Did the Muslims approve of this?
15 posted on 04/17/2011 9:10:32 AM PDT by cruise_missile (Sarah Palin: More woman than Michelle. More man than Barack..)
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To: Moonman62
For the most part, NASA’s shortcomings are due to political meddling.

But people should know during this transition in manned spaceflight that NASA has an incredibly successful unmanned program, which gets little attention.

Manned space flights get the publicity, unmanned flights gather the knowledge.

When Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon an estimated 1 billion people watched it live. The exploration of the surface of Mars by the Rovers is probably the closest unmanned project that the taxpayers heard about.

Since the late 1950's the horrendously expensive manned flights sell the budget that produces the funds for the unmanned flights. Manned flights provide NASA with the PR.

16 posted on 04/17/2011 9:42:35 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: TYVets
"...manned flights sell the budget that produces the funds for the unmanned flights."

They had it all wrong in "The Right Stuff" - they should have said, "No Buck Rogers, no Bucks."

17 posted on 04/17/2011 9:54:27 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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18 posted on 04/17/2011 10:05:13 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: SERKIT

Privatize Orion and bring back the Saturn V.

It is the engines which count, and the tools and dies, blueprints were destroyed. No one living knows how to bulid one, so it is on to reinventing them via Space X.


19 posted on 04/17/2011 11:32:39 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Texas Eagle

rail travel has yet to be privatized...


20 posted on 04/17/2011 11:34:09 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Flag_This
Before NASA there were arguments in the NACA about manned and unmanned flights. President Eisenhower formed NASA in 1958 after Russia had taken the lead in space exploration and created the non existent "missile gap".

The race into space was part of the cold war with Russia. Who had the biggest rockets to put men in space or deliver the biggest hydrogen bombs any where on the planet. It was a matter of national pride as well as national security.

In 1961 President Kennedy gave the speech:" We will land a man on the moon and return him in this decade". That speech helped open the floodgates of money to do it. (the cost $24 billion in 1960 dollars) The goal was to do it before Kennedy left office in January, 1969. Had it not been for the Apollo 1 fire on the pad in all likely hood it would have happened and been another jewel in Kennedy's crown of accomplishments as president.

With all his political strength Vice President Lyndon Johnson was the man who made it happen, not Kennedy's speech. Launches from the Cape in Florida, but the control center at The Johnson Space Center near Huston was the price Johnson demanded and got as his reward. Expensive government duplication when a larger control center at the Cape would have done the job, but that is the real world of politics.

A man in orbit, a man on the moon that is what got the headlines. On page 27 perhaps you could find a short column about unmanned projects.

When President Johnson saw that landing a man on the moon before he left office was not possible, he went for the best that could be done in his time frame.

Apollo 8 was planned to circle the moon with the LEM attached. The LEM was not ready so it was ordered that on Christmas Eve, 1968 Apollo 8 would circle the moon without the LEM. Had Apollo 8 experienced the same problems that later befell Apollo 13, in all likely hood the astronauts would have perished. It didn't happen and Johnson got his jewel just before he left office January, 1969. (the politics of space)

July , 1969 a man stepped onto the moon and a billion people watched it live.

The successes and failures of manned flight got the attention of the people who paid for them, the taxpayers. Unmanned flights did not.

The experience gained with the rockets and technology of the manned flights was a huge stepping stone for the more cost efficient unmanned flights.

I do recall setting my alarm clock to listen as two men explored a tiny part of the moon during one of the later Apollo missions. I don't think I have ever done that for an unmanned mission. It is human nature I assume.

The discussions about which is best were going on in the 1950's just as they are today. I am glad we did both.

I for one want to see the exploration of space continue no matter what form it takes.

21 posted on 04/17/2011 12:05:49 PM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: Kakaze

Going into space makes no sense unless it is profitable. That profitability is what drove adventurers into the western hemisphere and it was stolen gold brought back by the Spanish that drove the economies of Europe for a couple of centuries.

Mining asteroids, particularly those rich in platinum group metals (PGM - PeGgyMays) has the potential to instigate a new industrial revolution.

The mining of asteroids, smelting, refining and even manufacturing of product from them in the zero gravity vacuum of space, would refine robotics and provide high technology with improved metals and perhaps generate electronics performance like we’ve never seen before. The problem of environmental impact will be a ‘no never mind’, and who knows? Nano technology in manufacturing may really take off when utilized in space. The main thrust of my thesis here is that much of the processes could be robotic, not requiring a human presence except periodically.

The Third Industrial Revolution, by Stine, was published in 1979 (copies are available on ebay right now). He pointed the way over thirty years ago and with the improved electronics and robotics of today it is not just science fiction. Space exploration and colonization will pay for itself.

One thing is for sure: this will require a President with vision, not some community organizer who hasn’t a clue on how wealth is actually created.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Asteroid_mining

http://www.permanent.com/a-mining.htm

http://www.howstuffworks.com/asteroid-mining.htm


22 posted on 04/17/2011 1:58:13 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: KevinDavis

SpaceX not allowed to dock with ISS until safety proven - Roscosmos: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2708993/posts


23 posted on 04/22/2011 10:01:41 AM PDT by vertolet888
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To: KevinDavis

We’ll find out by next week, won’t we?


24 posted on 05/02/2012 3:02:52 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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