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Hackney hoard of gold coins fails to count as treasure, court rules
Hackney Citizen ^ | 25 April 2011 | Alex Hocking

Posted on 04/25/2011 3:13:38 PM PDT by Palter

Finders fail to become keepers as £100,000 worth of American money is returned to the family of its original owner

Gold coins and glass jar

The glass jar contained 80 American coins dating from 1854. Photograph: Hackney Council

A hoard of gold coins found in Hackney by a local resident in 2007 does not qualify as treasure and should be returned to the descendent of the man who originally buried them, ruled an inquest last week (Monday 18 April).

In 2007, Hackney resident Terence Castle was digging a frog pond with three others in a back garden in Stamford Hill when they struck suddenly struck gold, discovering a glass jar containing 80 American coins dating from 1854 and worth around £100,000.

“I unwrapped the greaseproof paper the coins were wrapped in and saw the statues of liberty marching into my face in gold relief… I knew it was something special.” He took the coins to his office and contacted the British Museum. He insisted that they collect the coins because “otherwise I might have just run off to Rio with them.”

A treasure inquest was opened to determine the value and provenance of he coins. If coins less than 300 years old are gold or silver and appear to have been deliberately concealed, the law states that unless a superior claim is made the finder may receive a reward equal to the treasure’s value.

The complete hoard consist of 80 coins, minted in the United States between 1854 and 1913. They are all $20 coins known as ‘Double-Eagle’ and the find is totally unprecedented in the United Kingdom.

In a unique twist to the story a likely descendent of the original owner of the coins has been found.

Gold coins

The twenty dollar gold coins are known as ‘Double-Eagles’. Photograph: Hackney Council

A claim was made by Max Sulzbacher whose father, Martin, was a German Jewish banker living in Frankfurt who fled persecution from the Nazis in 1938 and moved to live with his family in Hackney, bringing the valuable coins with him.

Martin Sulzbacher was interned as an ‘enemy alien refugee’ on the Isle of Man. He was then sent to Canada, but his ship was torpedoed by a U-boat off the Irish coast. Over half the passengers and crew perished, but Mr Sulzbacher survived only to be sent to Australia aboard the Dunera. Conditions on the Dunera were so appalling that several crew members were court-martialled.

Meanwhile, Sulzbacher’s family stayed on in Hackney. Fearing that German troops might invade and steal the gold from the safe in the City, they buried the coins in the garden. Unfortunately, the house took a direct hit from a bomb in 1941, killing all five family members.

Sulzbacher’s streak of bad luck continued when upon release in 1941 he was unable to find the coins among the rubble of the family home. He went on to open a bookshop in Stoke Newington and died in 1981.

The current case represents a second deposit of Martin Sulzbacher’s wealth. In 1952 as work commenced on a new building on the site of Mr Sulzbacher’s house, another hoard of 82 $20 American gold coins dating to 1890 was discovered in a glass jar on the same site. The hoard was awarded to Mr Martin Sulzbacher by the coroner at the time.

On 18 April 2011 the Coroner for Inner North London resumed an inquest in relation to a hoard of American gold dollars found in Hackney in 2007.

The coroner decided that Mr. Sulzbacher has a superior claim to the coins meaning that they will not qualify as Treasure according to the terms of the Treasure Act 1996, on the grounds that in order for objects to be classed as such, their owner or his or her heirs or successors must be unknown.

Mr. Martin Sulzbacher passed away in 1981 but the coroner’s office, the British Museum and the Museum of London worked together to track down his son, Mr. Max Sulzbacher, who lives abroad.

Drawing on evidence from the case where 82 similar coins found on the same property in 1952, Coroner Dr Andrew Reid ruled that the coins should be returned to the descendents of the family who buried them.

Reid stated that Mr Sulzbacher would consider offering a reward to the finders, but that he was under no obligation to do so.

Mr Castle – presumably speaking in jest – told his two children outside the court that “Honesty doesn’t always pay.”

It is believed that the coins were sent from America as part of the Dawes Plan to help Germany pay reparations after World War One. The Sulzbachers have donated a coin to the Museum of London and also to Hackney Museum.

Mr Max Sulzbacher said: “I am surprised but delighted by the recent discovery, which has come to light almost 70 years after the coins were buried. I am very grateful to the finders for reporting the coins to the Portable Antiquities Scheme and the Museum of London, and to the member of the public who alerted the coroner to the 1950s discovery.”

Mr Max Sulzbacher agreed to give an ex-gratia payment to the finders in recognition of their contribution to the discovery. It is anticipated that the remainder of the coins will be sold.

This represents the first time since the Treasure Act came into force in 1997 that an original owner or direct descendent has lain successful claim to an item that would otherwise have been ‘Treasure’ and the property of the Crown.

Dr Roger Bland, head of the department of Portable Antiquities and Treasure at the British Museum, said: “The case of the Hackney gold coins is one of the most unique and compelling stories that we have been involved with. There is an incredibly human element to this story that is absent from many archaeological finds and we are pleased to see the coins reunited with their original owners after so many years. The finders are to be congratulated for acting responsibly and helping to add further vital information to the corpus of material about the Second World War, Jewish immigration, and the history of Hackney borough.”

Archaeologists from the British Museum and University College London have investigated the site to ensure that no further deposits remained.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: bahog; coin; gold; treasure
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1 posted on 04/25/2011 3:13:44 PM PDT by Palter
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To: SunkenCiv

Bahog, follow up. Nice backstory.


2 posted on 04/25/2011 3:14:28 PM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Palter

This is what happens when finders cannot keep their mouths shut.


3 posted on 04/25/2011 3:16:57 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Palter
When I was 7-8 years old, I lost a quart jar of US silver dollars. I was playing 'find the treasure' when I lost track of them and a sudden downpour washed away the sand in the ditch where I had buried them.

They may still be there somewhere but a housing subdivision and an asphalt road was built over the site years ago. So....

I have a friend who has a metal detector who wants to go looking.
Hey, silver is close to $50 an ounce these days.

4 posted on 04/25/2011 3:25:47 PM PDT by blam
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To: Venturer

Should they always?


5 posted on 04/25/2011 3:27:38 PM PDT by stuartcr (The soul is the .cfg file for the body)
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To: blam

No joke. Anything pre-65 is sweet.


6 posted on 04/25/2011 3:29:47 PM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Venturer

Being serious, is this only in the UK? If...ahem... I.... a person bought an old house and while remodeling, (built in the 1930’s)and found $10,000 in the walls, about $60,000 in stocks and MANY silver, gold and antique coins must I...ahem... someone give them back to the person I... ahem... that person bought the property from? Isn’t it part of the property bought?


7 posted on 04/25/2011 3:30:49 PM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: Safetgiver
My son bought a bungalow in the suburbs of Detroit. When he tore out the sofit in the kitchen a bag of silver coins fell on his head...He sold them and was able to put new windows in the home...The owner of the house before him was always finding money (via a neighbors knowledge) He found many hiding places in the floor, but all were empty. Sections of the hard wood floor had been cut and removed, with money hidden under the floor and the wood replaced, covered with carpet..

He had just under 2000 dollars in silver value plus a couple of old silver dollars. That was 2 years ago and silver was much lower in value than today...

8 posted on 04/25/2011 3:48:02 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Palter

If I found something like this, I wouldn’t tell any dammed body.


9 posted on 04/25/2011 3:48:21 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Palter

Whoever owns the land where this loot was found should take 50% and hand over the other half to the finder(s). If the land is public, I want at least one of the coins! :-))


10 posted on 04/25/2011 4:35:10 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: KoRn

“Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.” —Benjamin Franklin


11 posted on 04/25/2011 4:37:20 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: blam

blam,

Can you give me some approximate location. Just curious. hehehehe


12 posted on 04/25/2011 4:49:17 PM PDT by Orange1998
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Thanks Palter. And I wholeheartedly agree, the backstory is essential reading:
A claim was made by Max Sulzbacher whose father, Martin, was a German Jewish banker living in Frankfurt who fled persecution from the Nazis in 1938 and moved to live with his family in Hackney, bringing the valuable coins with him... was interned as an 'enemy alien refugee' on the Isle of Man. He was then sent to Canada, but his ship was torpedoed by a U-boat off the Irish coast. Over half the passengers and crew perished, but Mr Sulzbacher survived only to be sent to Australia aboard the Dunera. Conditions on the Dunera were so appalling that several crew members were court-martialled.
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13 posted on 04/25/2011 5:45:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Palter

This is BS. They should have been the property of the guy who found them. Total BS.

Everyone, learn a lesson here. Do not go to the government with them.


14 posted on 04/25/2011 6:01:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Safetgiver

I would say finders keepers, but I hve no idea what the law is. Easing them into circulation shouldn’t be too hard.


15 posted on 04/25/2011 7:04:52 PM PDT by Venturer
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