Skip to comments.Where is the seal? (vanity)
Posted on 04/27/2011 8:15:38 AM PDT by Former Fetus
So, we all have seen a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate. Or haven't we?
This is a copy of a 1961 Hawaii's birth certificate. Very similar to the one released by the WH, right? Wrong!
Look at the document released by the WH.
Where is the embossed seal of the State of Hawaii? Where are the signatures of the director of health and the registrar general from 1961? Why don't they show in the so-called copy?
By contrast, the initial document released by Obama was a "Certification of Live Birth" - an abstract, only.
The fact remains that there are still many unresolved and intentionally hidden details about Obama's history. The release of this document does not change that. It may be difficult to admit when you've been snookered by a con man - but I think we'd all be wise to do so now and move on to real issues.
Because the birth certificate has been faked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUqNHBA3o8
Have you seen this?
The embossed seal is difficult to see, but I can see the circular pattern in the lower left of the certificate.
The signatures of the Director of Health and the Registrar General are NOT from 1961, they are from 1966, on the bottom of the paper that included the copy of the 1961 certificate. Those signatures are certifying that the COLB is authentic. Just as the signature of State Registrar is included on the bottom of the paper that included the copy of Obama's 1961 certificate, certifying that it is authentic.
I swear some people just don't think. In 1966, these records were not digitized. So when the Nordyke's requested a copy of their BC, thats what they got, a "True and Correct Copy" of the actual certificate on file.
2 years ago, the COLB that Obama released was the short form, which took the digitized data and printed it on a 2001 version of the form, hence it was an "Abstract" of the original document. Yesterday, he released a "True Copy" of the actual document on record.
The stamp was made to apply to either the CertificaTION of the type that was released 2 years ago, or the CertificaTE of the type that was released yesterday.
It really is not that difficult to understand. There are still valid questions about his eligibility based on the nationality of his father, but continued insistence that his BC's are forgeries is simply asinine!
The document was scanned by the White House into a .pdf, and the program doing the scanning attempted to perform an OCR (Optical Character Recognition) on the document to isolate the text in the document. It is a way to scan a document and get editable text from it.
The document was not faked.
2 years ago, COLB stood for "Certification of Live Birth" and we heard all about the difference between a Certificate and a Certification. Thats why the Certificate was demanded.
Check out this site. It has both documents, the CertificaTION of Live Birth released 2 years ago, and the CertificaTE of Live Birth released yesterday. There is a difference, in name and in content. And these images are before the WH added green security hash.
Or because the actual original document is bound in a book in the records office and will never be released. What was released yesterday was a copy of that document.
You couldn't get a passport with the digital image.
What is needed is a hard-copy examined by the FBI.
Possibly. But ask yourself if it were that easy, why was it not done before?
It was an odd looking document that was first floated. On security paper (printed at 100 dpi), but with the curved left margin as if it came from a bound volume. The version given to the press, on white background looked much more normal and that copy was in a higher resolution format. That version was obviously scanned by the press to give an electronic version. Resolution was higher and it was an RDF type .pdf doc. I looked at it carefully.
At this point I think it is a waste of time to continue questioning the BC, but I am also not totally convinced it is not still a forgery.
This is the first time that Obozo's administration has actually produced a birth document himself. It was previously done by a surrogate friend. That gave him some denyability. Now he is on record that this is the "true BC". The real truth of the matter will not come out of the HI Health Dept. It is more complicated than it appears now.
My opinion of Obozo has not changed, he is an enormous FRAUD. His life story is a total lie.
No one would submit a digital copy for a passport. I received my passport by submitting my short form BC, the equivalent of the COLB released 2 years ago. A long form is not required.
He received a hard copy, with raised seal. In order to release it to the masses it was scanned and released. Or are you saying he should have ordered a couple hundred million copies to be mailed to every household to prove it??
You will never hold in your hands the hard copy with raised seal. Several people in news organizations have, and have photographed or scanned the hard copy, before the WH added their green hash. If a neutral third party document expert could be agreed upon to verify the document, I'd be all in favor of it. I and would fully expect that it would be deemed official. I suspect you still would not accept the results of that.
But have we learned anything new from this document? Other than the doctor's and registrar's name, no, not really. We already knew his father was not a citizen, which is really the crux of the NBC argument. Now, go get a court to rule that both parents must be citizens in order to be NBC, and we've won. You can show me all the rulings from the 19th century supposedly issuing this exact ruling, but they don't apparently mean much, because they did not stop him from taking office.
The BC is a dead issue. The COLB from 2 years ago was a valid abstract of the original, printed from the digitized records in a database. The COLB from yesterday is a true copy of the original that is bound in a book in the records office. Thats why the Okuda stamp says "true copy or abstract", so it can cover both types of COLB's.
At $4 for each additional copy why the hell did he not get 50 or more copies so that everyone could handle an original copy? He paid thousands to jet a private attorney to Hawaii but could not spend $200 for more copies? It probably cost taxpayers this much for him to have staff scan and print out copies. And now if 2 or more states pass laws requiring documented proof he is going to send his attorney back to Hawaii for more copies? How very green of him.
Something really stinks about this narrative.
If you say so! I think I'm going to have my eyes checked, I don't see it.
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