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[jonrick46]

Good night!

[Seaplaner]

Donald Trump is a flim-flamming, wheeler-dealing, DEMOCRAT SUPPORTING, (historical GOP no-showing), non-voting, and I suspect clandestine Obama BFF.

Does anyone understand that it is MOST UNLIKELY that Mister Obama would release his alleged "birth cert" just after Trump demanded it; without some prior arrangement? AND...

That Mister Trump has vacuumed the credit for making Obama do this?

It's SO EASY

Think..."tag team" here.

Think...Ross Perot II here

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bfl

[Batman11]

PFL

[Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys]

and to think many of us need a birth certificate just to be hired as a janitor!

[Beaten Valve]

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[JDoutrider]

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[GunRunner]

I hope you all realize that the layers were found in one of the certified copies. The original is up for inspection:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ap_obama_certificate_dm_110427.pdf

Shading inconsistencies and layers are normal for a document scanned into PDF Searchable Image.

[Two Kids' Dad]

I posted my own version of the same process earlier today and got all kinds of hateful emails from people through YouTube. Many f-bombs were dropped. People get all sorts of ugly and hateful these days with little to no provocation. Whatever. Their lives must be pretty miserable.

[Vendome]

MuBarak is an idiot to have released this “Copy of Date Points” on a Wednesday!

What moron doesn’t know that if you want a story to die you release it over the weekend or on a holiday?

Further, it may have been enough to convince Lieutenant Lakin to continue following orders of deployment as he had done so many times, honorably, as a decorated veteran would do and does.

But no... He let an honorable man hang in the wind, under a cloud of doubt and ruin his career and life. For What?

This settles nothing and I want to see the one he found among his mother’s belongings when she passed in 1995, as well the one that is sealed in his admissions for kindergarten and preschool.

Barak, if this settles it for you then you screwed a fine man and you should be ashamed!

You have no honor.

[Vendome]

This whole BC thing is a put up.  A Fairy Tail!

 

It's a slight of hand and there is no reason to have not put an original copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate out there in the 1st place.

 

But, think of it.  There are three that are known to exist or have existed and has at least two in his possessoin:

 

• The Birth Certificate that was submitted for his admission into the Hawaiian school system.  The files containing that BC and his records for immunization are sealed by court order on MuBarak's requrest.

 

• "If" he used an American Passport for travel to Indonesia and Pakistan, when he turned 18, he would have a copy of his birth certificate from that event.

 

• He absolutely has a Birth Certificate, in it's original black & white format, that "He Found" Among His Mother's belongings, when she passed in 1995.

 

• A friend just reminded me that one gets married they are required to present a Long Form Birth Certificate!!!  NO KIDDING!??  I had completely overlooked that!!!

 

• I do wonder if he had to submit another BC when he returned back to the Hawaii school system to re-enter school???

 

 

 

Let them claim there is no long form.

 

1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)

 

2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?

 

3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 

 

Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?

 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
•  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
• The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 

The point of the birth certificate is to uncover this man's past for it's factual existence and not the narrative we have been told.

 

We want to know if he ever traveled, went to school in America, obtained loans, etc in another name or as a foreign student or as a foreigner!!!!

 

That is what we are after at a minimum.

 

Finally, there can be no doubt Barak was in fact born with a divided citizenship.  He proudly admits as much.

 

That means if we were conscripted by draft into the United States Military during a conflict, when he was 18, he could have avoided the draft by simply returning to another country of his citizenship.  We know and he admits he was a citizen of Kenya at the age of 18 so he could have returned with no penalty, to Kenya and not even I would call him a draft dodger if had under those circumstances.

 

You are wholly one thing or another but not two distinctly different and separate things that conflict with each other's existence.

 

He was born with a divided allegiance and is "Not a Natural Born Citizen".  Might be a citizen but, he ain't a Natural Born Citizen.

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[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Google took down the first link which led to a video called layered showing it was fake.

I wonder how long before all showing it’s layers is deleted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMxVbPCPBY

[rodguy911]

I'm a graphic artist and you should not be able to move things around, its a forgery guys..and not even a very good one!!!

Nuff said.(although I predicted it the hour after it was announced.) Think about it. If the short form was a fraud this can be nothing else but a fraud as well.!!!

[maine-iac7]

This is the one we need to send to DRUDGE et al.

It came out some time ago and seems to be the only authentic COLB - which is NOT a BC...but merely the registration that signifies a live birth - not necessarily in the same state.

This one actually has the RACE of the father listed as it wold have been in 1961 " negro - African." Not just "African' - Africa is a continent, not a race.

This was, supposedly, registered by the grandmother...take note of the last line.

I'd like to see an original COLB of another person from that time. It seems they weren't/aren't ? on the same paper as the BC's.

The questionable ones - 2 different ones now - that bummer has released are on a BC background - would this also be an indicator of forgery?

[mom.mom]

Was Kenya "Kenya" in 1961? Wasn't it British East Africa? or something like that.

[chooseascreennamepat]

I heard about this, this morning.

So I went to Google and found that they changed their name at some time before 1940. The wiki site was changed at 6:46 this morning, Que Pasa?

The Hosp. Web site States,

“This is the story of two hospitals: Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home.
Concerned about the welfare of Hawaii’s mothers, Queen Kapi‘olani held luau and bazaars to raise the $8,000 needed to open Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1890. She endowed her legacy with “Kulia i ka nu‘u” or “Strive for the highest.

In 1908, Albert and Emma Kauikeolani Wilcox donated $50,000 to start a children’s hospital. The community, concerned that two of every seven infants in Hawai‘i did not live to see their first birthday, rallied to match the Wilcox’s gift. A year later, Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened.

The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children.* Staying true to its mission, the non-profit hospital has played a vital role in the health of Hawaii’s women, children and adolescents. It is staffed with highly skilled, compassionate physicians and nurses, dedicated to providing the finest care for Hawaii’s families:”

*Highlites Mine

[maine-iac7]

This lady, pictured on the cover of bammers book, holding litte bammer - is identified as his grandmother, Habiba Akumu Obama: Also known as Akumu Nyanjoga (b. c. 1918-) -

Question: Did she travel to the US in the early-mid '60's - or did the young toddler go to Kenya?

If so, has it ever been disclosed? Did he mention it in his book?

[noinfringers2]

One thing about this latest presentation is that it so much different than all the others out for shoe. I especially like the one of a Hawaii Cirtificate of Live Birth that was submitted and signed by Obama’s grandma Madlyn Payne with officials of Hawaii signatures that states the COLB is evidence for delayed filing with birthplace of Kenya but registered in Honolulu. This was a post on FR 4/28/2011.