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Transmission Fluid Changes a Scam
hotfudgedetroit.com ^ | 5/1/2007 | Mark Phelan

Posted on 05/01/2011 10:49:54 AM PDT by Signalman

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1 posted on 05/01/2011 10:49:56 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman
"As a general rule of thumb, newer transmission designs are sealed for life," said Tim Miskotten, who leads North American business for ZF AG, the German company that is the world's largest independent transmission maker. ZF supplies gearboxes to Ford, Audi, BMW Jaguar and other leading automakers. "You don't need to change the fluid in the normal life of a vehicle," Miskotten said.

I don't think I believe this. Engines consume oil. I would assume they consume XMSN fluid also.

I own 2 high mileage cars. I have definitely noticed a "lag" in the auto XMSN even when the oil has been changed (i use synthetic).

Need more proof than what some German with an agenda provides.

2 posted on 05/01/2011 10:56:13 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Signalman

Jiffy Lube had to buy me a new transmission, because their idiots put motor oil into my transmission, by mistake!

Well, I hope it was a mistake, since it requires a funnel to get the spout from the oil hose into the transmission, the nozzle is too big.

It might have been my Republican bumper stickers?

Lots of work release prisoners work at these joints in my area!


3 posted on 05/01/2011 10:56:30 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Signalman
"As a general rule of thumb, newer transmission designs are sealed for life,"

Yeah and they consider life of the vehicle 115K miles.

Never-the-less, sealing them up is probably better than having one of these QuickLube outfits bungle the job.

If you want your transmission to last, change the fluid and filter every 30K miles of normal use. Go to a specialty transmission shop if you have to and make sure before hand that you have read the manufacturers TSB's to verify the correct type fluid to use.

4 posted on 05/01/2011 10:57:09 AM PDT by fso301
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"We have an additive, Smart Blend, to convert regular automatic transmission fluid to ATF +4."

Yeah right. An additive. What a scam. The only car I know of that requires transmission fluid changes on a regular basis are the Northstar Cadillacs in the 2000's year range. I think it is every 30000 miles.

5 posted on 05/01/2011 10:57:41 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Kansas58
Jiffy Lube had to buy me a new transmission, because their idiots put motor oil into my transmission, by mistake!

Don't ever, never take your car to jiffy lube or any of those places.

When ya drain the oil, leave the drain plug out for 15 or 20 minutes. I leave my out for 2 hours. You have to allow all the dirty oil to drain out that is clinging to all the internal engine parts..

If ya don't do this, your putting new oil in with old nasty dirty oil.

If ya like your vehicle, and want it to last, do this.

6 posted on 05/01/2011 11:03:59 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Signalman

The world is in chaos and we are worried about transmission fluid?


7 posted on 05/01/2011 11:05:26 AM PDT by toomanylaws
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I have a 2001 Mazda Tribute 4WD. (same as the Ford Explorer).

Factory service recommendation is to change the transmission fluid every 30K miles.

8 posted on 05/01/2011 11:06:14 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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I’ve got a 2003 Jag, purchased new in 2002, that just passed 104K miles. The tranny is sealed (Jag says do not change the fluid) and uses synthetic ATF. It shifts as smoothly today as it did when I first bought it. I tend to believe that it’s better not to mess with the tranny fluid...with a few exceptions.

If you frequently tow a trailer (that puts a lot of strain on the transmission) or if you drive for an extended period in a hot climate (Phoenix from June-August for example). In those cases, I would change the fluid every 30K-60K miles.


9 posted on 05/01/2011 11:07:11 AM PDT by Signalman
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My 2005 GMC truck lasted 108K miles before the 4 speed auto tranny became a 2 speed powerglide.
Had failed to change the fluid at 75k and the transmission crapped out at 108K.
Now I’m driving a Ford, no guv’ment money so that’s good news!


10 posted on 05/01/2011 11:07:24 AM PDT by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race. Obamacare is a crime)
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Right you are about that! My late dad always let the oil drip out of the engine for at least 2-3 hours before adding new oil to the engine. That is how you do the job right!

That being said I new a fellow who worked at a Jiffy Lube in New Jersey who put Transmission fluid in a car radiator his first(and last) day on the job!


11 posted on 05/01/2011 11:11:46 AM PDT by 4yearlurker
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12 posted on 05/01/2011 11:12:09 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Signalman

If you want your transmission to last as long as your engine - i.e., past 120,000 miles for 4 cyl., 160,000 for 6 cyl. and 240,000 for 8 cyl. then the following rules of thumb are a good guide:

1. For non-filtered transmissions - typically Hondas - whether regular or synthetic (typically regular) - do a complete fluid change every 15,000 miles or as needed.

Hondas are pretty easy - most can be done at home. It’s just like an oil pan - drain - and refill.

2. For filtered transmissions - sealed or non-sealed - whether regular or synthetic (typically synthetic or blend) - do a partial fluid change every 30,000 miles or as needed.

DO NOT DO COMPLETE FLUID CHANGES ON FILTERED TRANSMISSIONS THAT SEE NORMAL USE. THAT CAN HARM THE TRANSMISSION. PULL OUT THE MANUAL FOR SUCH CARS AND IT’LL TELL YOU EXACTLY THAT.

One of the early mistakes made at “Jiffy Lube” like centers early on was the “complete fluid flush” service that was offered on ALL TRANSMISSIONS. A lot of these centers got hit with suits early on for damage to transmissions that required partial fluid changes. They’ve wised up nowadays...

=8-)


13 posted on 05/01/2011 11:12:19 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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Unless you regularly tow a trailer or something, you shouldn’t need to change your transmission fluid more than every 60K to 100K miles. It is important to use the correct fluid, of course.


14 posted on 05/01/2011 11:12:24 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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Interesting that they did mention filter changes. I don’t know what ‘sealed up’ means either...do they literally not have a pan on the vehicle?

I’ve noticed my newer vehicles have a magnet in the pan...usually covered with small bits of metal. I wipe the shavings off the magnet, change the filter, add back the amount of fluid lost when I dropped the pan, make the sign of the cross, and go on with life. I figure changing the filter often enough will change out enough fluid over time.

I think the lesson learned here is that the quick-lube places usually use very low quality fluids....they added an additive to make it AT-4? If that worked, you’d be able to buy the same additive off the shelf.

Many of my newer cars require fairly specialized oils...semisynthetics, in some strange weights, like 5-20. I would be terrified to go to a quick-lube place, since that magic hose that dispenses the oil is probably just 10-30.

If you have a newer car, I think the options are increasingly becoming DIY or dealer...but I do have little trust for the independent lube places.


15 posted on 05/01/2011 11:12:24 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: toomanylaws

By all means, feel free to ignore the transmissions in your vehicle, and instead type on the Internet.

No problem.


16 posted on 05/01/2011 11:12:27 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Signalman

I remember reading in my Chrysler owner’s manual years ago that the transmission (or transfer case?) fluid had a colorant that faded away gradually. Repair shops did not like to hear that, said it was news to them, that my fluid was “dirty”.

As for Jiffy Lube, my last visit there a decade ago had them tell me a throttle plate cleaning at $245 was part of my vehicle’s scheduled maintenance. It was not.

It’s been Walmart for me ever since, and I’ve saved hundreds of dollars on oil changes, filters, batteries, etc.


17 posted on 05/01/2011 11:13:01 AM PDT by Stalwart
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To: 4yearlurker
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18 posted on 05/01/2011 11:13:04 AM PDT by 4yearlurker
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To: Signalman

Appreciate the input. I drive mainly in hot, humid environments (east coast, Baltimordor, DC, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Delaware). I drive a Turbo also. That may have something to do with this.

Can’t afford a Jag ;-).


19 posted on 05/01/2011 11:13:27 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Signalman

Appreciate the input. I drive mainly in hot, humid environments (east coast, Baltimordor, DC, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Delaware). I drive a Turbo also. That may have something to do with this.

Can’t afford a Jag ;-).


20 posted on 05/01/2011 11:13:28 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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