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US admits bin Laden unarmed when shot (and did not use wife as shield)
Australian Broadcasting Corp. ^ | 5/4/2011 | John Stewart

Posted on 05/04/2011 9:21:56 AM PDT by Signalman

Transcript TONY JONES, PRESENTER: Pakistan's prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gillani, has rejected criticism of Pakistan's intelligence services for failing to locate Osama bin Laden.

Speaking in Paris tonight, prime minister Gillani said that ignorance of bin Laden's hideout was the result of an international intelligence failure.

Pakistan's foreign minister says the United States was alerted to suspicions about the compound where bin Laden was hiding back in 2009.

The response comes after the White House changed its account of the assault, now conceding that Osama bin Laden was unarmed.

John Stewart reports.

JOHN STEWART, REPORTER: The US administration's account of what happened during the raid on bin Laden's hiding place has changed. Yesterday the White House said that bin Laden was armed and had been hiding behind his wife when he was killed.

Today, it was revealed that bin Laden was not armed when he was shot dead and not using his wife as a human shield.

JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Bin Laden's wife rushed the US assaulter and was shot in the leg but not killed. Bin Laden was then shot and killed. He was not armed.

JOHN STEWART: The White House said that bin Laden had shown some resistance to being arrested.

The CIA chief said there was an option to take bin Laden alive, but the US Navy SEALs were also permitted to kill him.

LEON PANETTA, CIA DIRECTOR: The authority here was to kill bin Laden. And obviously under their the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him.

JOHN STEWART: Critics say that taking bin Laden alive was a better option.

GEOFFREY ROBERTSON, HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER: This man has been subject to summary execution, and what is now appearing after a good deal of disinformation from the White House may well have been a cold-blooded assassination.

The irony of this is that this is what Osama bin Laden craved. He wanted - the last thing he wanted was to be put on trial.

JOHN STEWART: And while that may now be academic, tensions between America and Pakistan continue to grow, with more questions today being asked about how bin Laden was able to hide in this huge fortress-like building so close to a military base.

PETER KING, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN: It's very hard to believe that some elements of the Pakistani Government, whether the military or intelligence, were not aware of this.

JOHN STEWART: The US claims that bin Laden may have lived in the compound for five years. Pakistan's powerful spy agency, the ISI, says it raided the home in 2003, before its huge security walls were built, but they had not checked it since then.

America;s aid program to Pakistan could be reviewed if it's revealed that Pakistani authorities knew of bin Laden's whereabouts.

DIANNE FEINSTEIN, DEMOCRAT SENATOR: I think we have to know whether they knew - if they - the Pakistani's knew. If they didn't know, why didn't they know?"

JOHN STEWART: Today Pakistan's prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gillani, hit back at his country's critics, calling the decade-long search for bin Laden an international failure.

YOUSAF RAZA GILLANI, PAKISTANI PRIME MINISTER: Certainly, we have intelligence sharing with the rest of the world, including the United States, so if somebody points out that there is some of the lapses from Pakistan side, that means there's the lapses from the whole world.

JOHN STEWART: Today the CIA director bluntly stated that Pakistani authorities were deliberately kept out of the loop.

LEON PANETTA: We made the decision that we would not inform them, that we would conduct this operation unilaterally.

JOHN STEWART: And a series of WikiLeaks files casting new light on the fraught relationship between the US and Pakistan may explain why.

This week a London newspaper published details of a December 2009 cable in which the Government of Tajikistan warned the United States that corrupt Pakistani spies were deliberately thwarting efforts to catch bin Laden, tipping him off whenever a raid on his hideout was about to take place.

Pakistani media are reporting that senior Al Qaeda figures are meeting to decide who will replace bin Laden.

The man thought most likely to become the next Al Qaeda leader is Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Egyptian-born surgeon spent three years in Egyptian jails before becoming bin Laden's chief strategist and deputy.

The FBI has a $25 million bounty on Zawahiri's head and is hoping that new information seized from computers in bin Laden's compound will help track him down.

John Stewart, Lateline.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: binladen; unarmed
He was unarmed? Isn't the official line UBL was "resisting' and that's why he was killed? Something doesn't smell right here.
1 posted on 05/04/2011 9:22:02 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

I thought Holder wanted terrorists caught to be given a Miranda warning?


2 posted on 05/04/2011 9:25:31 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Signalman
Given how discombobulated the official White House storyline has been, can you imagine the train wreck if we had taken him alive?
3 posted on 05/04/2011 9:25:53 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Signalman

Rush is saying right now that it looks like Panetta is running the country.

Meanwhile, I can’t figure out this guy.

http://www.stevepieczenik.com/bio.htm

he claims Bin laden was already dead.

He also claims a General told him 9/11 was a false flag.

This blows my mind that someone like that says he will go before a Federal Grand Jury and name the General.

he is also supposedly an advisor to the DOD

Is the CIA pulling some psy ops thing right now.


4 posted on 05/04/2011 9:26:01 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Signalman
Pakistan's prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gillani, has rejected criticism of Pakistan's intelligence services for failing to locate Osama bin Laden.

I agree. Pakistan's ISI didn't fail in that area. They knew for years where bin Laden was.

5 posted on 05/04/2011 9:26:49 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Signalman

Jeez, no one in this administration can keep their stories straight!!!


6 posted on 05/04/2011 9:27:43 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (It's not so much where, but to whom.)
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To: Signalman

“ignorance of bin Laden’s hideout was the result of an international intelligence failure. “

And yesterday I read here that Christine Amanpour mentioned a “secure villa in Pakistan” as OBL’s hideout, in 2008 or thereabout.

It could be that up until last Sunday, an alive OBL fit the script, and then the script got re-written, and that character had to go. Or, he was worth something up until then.


7 posted on 05/04/2011 9:28:39 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Signalman

You need not be armed to be resisting arrest. Simply making any threatening gesture to one of the arresting individuals is more than sufficient!!!!


8 posted on 05/04/2011 9:28:39 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: Signalman

Maybe the White House assumed that the SEALs would have a throw down like the Chicago PD does.

In all seriousness, I believe the rumor that the SEALs grabbed him and asked what should be done. The President hesitated and Panetta gave the kill code. I don’t have a problem with believing that at all, nor do I disapprove.


9 posted on 05/04/2011 9:29:05 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Signalman

Whether OBL actually had a weapon in his hand is immaterial. He’d already fired on us in 1998, 2000 and 2001 and killed thousands of innocent people.

OUR guys were firing BACK.


10 posted on 05/04/2011 9:31:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: ozark hilljilly

“Jeez, no one in this administration can keep their stories straight!!!”

They have to keep altering the facts to make Bush look bad.

Why is the 0 administration covering up the ‘arms to Mexico’ scandal.


11 posted on 05/04/2011 9:32:23 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: Signalman

I am trying to find anyone who cares whether OBL was armed, of even if he resisted, or if he did a fan dance for the Seals first. Honk if you care.

Thankfully we didn’t do the prisoner thing in some county court house in the middle of Hoboken.


12 posted on 05/04/2011 9:33:18 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: Signalman
The FBI has a $25 million bounty on Zawahiri's head and is hoping that new information seized from computers in bin Laden's compound will help track him down.

...meanwhile, the ISI hustles al-Zawahiri and the rest of the operational heirarchy of al-Qaeda to a safe new location.

13 posted on 05/04/2011 9:35:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Signalman
Can Zero play anything straight?

Does everything have to be a muddy mess?

14 posted on 05/04/2011 9:35:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Under Islam, there is no separation of church and state. The church IS the state.)
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To: Signalman

I don’t really care whether or not he was armed. None of the victims on 9/11 were armed, either.


15 posted on 05/04/2011 9:36:36 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: Signalman

Now the ‘throwing the Navy Seals “under the bus” is officially starting.


16 posted on 05/04/2011 9:36:53 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
The President hesitated and Panetta gave the kill code. I don’t have a problem with believing that at all, nor do I disapprove.

Nor do I.

17 posted on 05/04/2011 9:36:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“If you don’t know where you are going, every road will get you nowhere.” Henry A. Kissinger


18 posted on 05/04/2011 9:40:11 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Signalman; LUV W
Bin Laden's last facebook entry ...


19 posted on 05/04/2011 9:42:15 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Signalman

There were helicopters landing on the property. There were gun shots and screaming downstairs and OBL just stayed in his bedroom unarmed? This story does not make sense.


20 posted on 05/04/2011 9:42:24 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Signalman

Well I for one care that he wasn’t armed.

If he really wasn’t armed, he shouldn’t have been shot. The Seals should have been more creative in making it a more memorable event for him.


21 posted on 05/04/2011 9:56:12 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: Liberty Valance

:)


22 posted on 05/04/2011 10:02:16 AM PDT by LUV W (GOP? You need to fight like a GIRL!!~~Sarah Palin)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Joe Biden is the only person in the administration willing to tell the truth (and he should shut up).


23 posted on 05/04/2011 10:31:57 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Signalman

You have to get used to the fact that this administration practices taqqiya.


24 posted on 05/04/2011 10:32:24 AM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: Signalman
Who cares? For OBL, even Uncle Fester's usual solution is justified.



"Why... I'll shoot 'em in the back!"
25 posted on 05/04/2011 12:20:19 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: RummyChick

The guy’s pseudo-Polish last name should clue you that this is a SATIRE page.

Steve Pieczenik?

Peace-nik............


26 posted on 05/04/2011 12:23:35 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

A simple search will tell you he is the real deal.

Ever heard of Jack Ryan of the Patriot Games movie????

Based on this guy.


27 posted on 05/04/2011 1:48:48 PM PDT by RummyChick
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