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Why Everything Is Dirtier
von Mises Institute ^ | 5.5.11 | Jeffrey A. Tucker

Posted on 05/11/2011 6:31:29 AM PDT by Free Vulcan

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To: Free Vulcan

The TSP has been removed for decades now. The problem is phosphates that destroy the water supply.

Phosphates were an early envirowacko victory.

I think they were recently removed from the major dishwasher detergents also. The result is a film on glass stuff


81 posted on 05/15/2011 6:46:57 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Free Vulcan

I went to Lowe’s yesterday and they had a 4.5 lb. box of TSP for $10.48. Went home and put 1 1/2 tablespoons in and ran hot water.

I’ll forward a caveat: we use Melaleuca detergent with their Melabrite booster, and those two together do an excellent job as you can expect from non-phos soap and get the clothes pretty darn clean.

Even so, I still took out some of the dingy that was in the clothes and got some of the stubborn dirt and oil. I think over successive uses it will keep improving on that. Well worth the money, and in such small amounts I can see that lasting a year.

On to the dishwasher.


82 posted on 05/15/2011 7:16:02 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

This same box is available at GFS stores in Florida, also. I recently paid $6.79 for a box. Now my new dishwasher actually does a good job,.


83 posted on 05/16/2011 7:41:19 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
... don't forget cleaning isn't the only thing you have to do. you have to remove/rinse the soap. It is so common for people to over load their machines with soap/detergents.

Right. Just for kicks, people should run their clothes through another wash cycle without adding any detergent and observe the suds in the water during the wash portion. They'd be amazed ... even with a washer that has a second rinse.

The first time someone told me to do this, I ended up running all our washables through three more wash cycles sans detergent before the water ran clean. Yuck.

84 posted on 05/16/2011 7:48:30 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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yeap just like low flow toilets you have to flush like 3 times in order to remove the wastes. Water saving washing machines I am sure are able to save your dirt, oils and soaps for your skin. kind of disgusting if you think about it.


85 posted on 05/16/2011 11:05:26 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Free Vulcan

Glad to see this on FR. Will be getting some TSP and trying it.

Question for all: does it cause lots of suds? Should I double rinse clothes and dishes?


86 posted on 07/26/2015 8:40:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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