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Controversy over child's flag drawing
wwlp.com ^ | 05/12/2011 | Matt Caron

Posted on 05/12/2011 10:02:44 AM PDT by massmike

A civil rights controversy is brewing at an elementary school in the Town of Orange, and it all surrounds an11 year-old's drawing of the American Flag.

The family of Frankie Girard is claiming that their son's civil rights were violated after a teacher allegedly told him that hanging his picture of the American flag would offend another student.

The Butterfield Elementary School is at the center of controversy for the incident on Monday. According to Frankie Girard’s father, John, the boy was in art class drawing a picture.

"He was denied hanging the flag up. And, he asked if he could just even hang it on his desk, and he was told no. He could take the picture that he drew and take it home and be proud of it there,” Girard said.

So, that is where it is, among the hundreds of other family pictures and military honors that adorn the walls of the Girard family home.

According to his father, the teacher told Frankie that his drawing of the American Flag would offend one of his classmates. "We’re allowing him to display his civil rights and be proud of who he is, but we’re denying Franklin those same rights," Girard said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wwlp.com ...


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: arth; massachusetts; usflag

1 posted on 05/12/2011 10:02:48 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

wow,,


2 posted on 05/12/2011 10:07:58 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: massmike

Jerks like this school superintendent and staff are what cause other people around the country to shake their heads in disbelief and demand the entire state and everyone in it be quarantined or incinerated.

Not everyone around here is like these turkeys (as the one woman being interviewed illustrates) but this crap is all anyone ever sees. I hate the politics and school systems in this state. They ARE run by Leftists.


3 posted on 05/12/2011 10:12:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: massmike

I’ll bet they would let him draw and display a picture of Obama, though.


4 posted on 05/12/2011 10:14:42 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: massmike

Two words.

Home + School.


5 posted on 05/12/2011 10:15:00 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: metmom

ping


6 posted on 05/12/2011 10:15:58 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: massmike

According to his father, the teacher told Frankie that his drawing of the American Flag would offend one of his classmates.

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It goes without saying that the classmate would not be so offended if little Frankie drew a picture of a MEXICAN flag.


7 posted on 05/12/2011 10:17:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: panaxanax

Exactly. Home-school if possible. In a generation, the gap in success levels should be a factor in future political campaigns.


8 posted on 05/12/2011 10:18:08 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: massmike

That so-called teacher needs a good beating and deportation.


9 posted on 05/12/2011 10:20:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: massmike
He was denied hanging the flag up. And, he asked if he could just even hang it on his desk, and he was told no. He could take the picture that he drew and take it home and be proud of it there,” Girard said.

Flippin' marxist, American hating liberal!!

10 posted on 05/12/2011 10:20:48 AM PDT by dragonblustar (If libs are inspired by a book that was dedicated to Satan, their reward will be hell.)
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To: massmike

Ah, Massachusetts, that explains a lot.


11 posted on 05/12/2011 10:22:59 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: massmike

Does the school also refrain from flying the American flag outside the building so as not to offend said student?


12 posted on 05/12/2011 10:24:14 AM PDT by cajuncow
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To: massmike
"We’re allowing him to display his civil rights and be proud of who he is, but we’re denying Franklin those same rights," Girard said.

Maybe Franklin wasn't displaying his pride in who he is, maybe Franklin is displaying pride in his country.

Is the teacher not proud of the country for which the flag stands?

-PJ

13 posted on 05/12/2011 10:25:09 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: massmike

Where is this school, and how do we contact the school and the school board?


14 posted on 05/12/2011 10:27:34 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: massmike

Every time this state does something right some asshat takes it two steps backwards.

Welcome to Assachusetts.


15 posted on 05/12/2011 10:28:51 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: cajuncow

From the article....

22News tried to contact the Superintendent, Dr. Paul Burnim. He refused to go on camera, but told 22News over the phone that nobody ever told Franklin the drawing was offensive, and said the only reason it wasn’t hung was because Franklin was supposed to be doing other work; not drawing a picture. In a statement he said: “Each of our schools flies the American Flag every day. At the Butterfield School, the Pledge of Allegiance is recited by students and staff. And the other schools recite the Pledge of Allegiance at least once per week.”

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I - upthread - jumped to the conclusion that this was yet another exhibition of anti-Americanism in our public schools. It’s way too easy to make that assumption.

But. I can see that if little Frankie was goofing off, then yeah. This is not an issue of being denied the right to hang a flag drawing in the classroom.

It’s possible that Frankie and his family are crying foul, just to deflect the heat away from them.

Now. Having said that.... Back to public school bashing.


16 posted on 05/12/2011 10:29:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: Peter from Rutland

Oh and another thing. My son has been bringing and reading conservative books to school. His latest is Savage’s “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder”. He bought it with his own money too.

We’re just waiting for some asshat to make something out of it at the school.


17 posted on 05/12/2011 10:30:23 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: massmike

That teacher offends me. I still want to hang the teacher.


18 posted on 05/12/2011 10:31:25 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: massmike

In Massachusetts there is a flag in every classroom and the Pledge of Allegiance is said every day. It is state law.

This story makes no sense.


19 posted on 05/12/2011 10:32:20 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: massmike

“Teachers” are paid to much for what little they do...


20 posted on 05/12/2011 10:33:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Osama bin SEALed - http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: Semper911

This story makes no sense.

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The excerpt makes no sense. The article explains it quite well.


21 posted on 05/12/2011 10:35:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: massmike

How about a state name in the keywords?


22 posted on 05/12/2011 10:37:23 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: massmike
According to his father, the teacher told Frankie that his drawing of the American Flag would offend one of his classmates.

Not hanging it offends far more.

Tell the anti-american spoiled brat to suck it up. If he doesn't like the flag, he doesn't have to look at it. Where's the tolerance? Hypocrites.

23 posted on 05/12/2011 10:37:59 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: GOPJ
The case that was brought before the SJC in MA that resulted in the gay marriage law was brought by an outfit whose chief council just happened to be the president of the Mass Teachers Asoc.

Just something that is never spoken of when teachers are involved.

24 posted on 05/12/2011 10:47:06 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: massmike

... for those who fight for it, Freedom has a meaning the protected will never know.


25 posted on 05/12/2011 10:49:30 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: massmike
This is a case where it would be best to use a [snip] and include the following VERY PERTINENT information:

22News tried to contact the Superintendent, Dr. Paul Burnim. He refused to go on camera, but told 22News over the phone that nobody ever told Franklin the drawing was offensive, and said the only reason it wasn't hung was because Franklin was supposed to be doing other work; not drawing a picture. In a statement he said: "Each of our schools flies the American Flag every day. At the Butterfield School, the Pledge of Allegiance is recited by students and staff. And the other schools recite the Pledge of Allegiance at least once per week."

It makes a WORLD of difference to include the school's response.

26 posted on 05/12/2011 10:52:19 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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27 posted on 05/12/2011 11:35:45 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: nolongerademocrat
Exactly. Home-school if possible. In a generation, the gap in success levels should be a factor in future political campaigns.

It won't matter how successful our future candidates are if 75% of the electorate is educated by unopposed leftist teachers.

The fight is IN the public schools, not your living room.

We walk the walk, and have had victories. My daughter started a pro-life club in her public high school. It has 35 members. We and other parents petitioned that the Obama speech not be presented live in the classroom, and we won.

The fight must be fought in the public square. By letting the leftists indoctrinate the masses unopposed, it won't matter how conservative or morally-sound your kids turn out. They'll be outnumbered at the ballot box by progressive sheep.
28 posted on 05/12/2011 11:39:16 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: massmike

Now they know who the illegal alien is in that class.


29 posted on 05/12/2011 6:49:31 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: panaxanax; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; ..

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

Let me see if I got this right.....

A drawing of an American flag might offend a classmate, but the classmate who is attending a public school that is on American soil, that American taxpayers are paying for and he living here and attending school here DOESN'T offend him?

Seeing the flag offends him but living in the country the flag represents doesn't?

If seeing the flag of the country you're living in offends you so much, GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!

There is so much wrong with public education these days that it's almost unfathomable....

This is one of those rare exceptions that I think indicate the need to ping the regular homeschool ping list it's so bad.

Keep up the good work, homeschoolers.

30 posted on 05/12/2011 9:20:36 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The other student was a Jehovah’s Witness, not a Mexican. (this time)


31 posted on 05/13/2011 5:12:02 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It was art class, during free draw time.


32 posted on 05/13/2011 5:13:22 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: FourPeas

No, it doesn’t, because the school’s response is a made up lie.


33 posted on 05/13/2011 5:15:14 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: Shimmer1

I have an inlaw that is in the Jehovah’s Witnesses. He says that leftists use the JW’s issues around flags and holidays to advance their own agendas.

He said that JW’s won’t rise to the flag or celebrate holidays but that they do not care if others do. In fact it is a distinctive and bonds them more completely.


34 posted on 05/13/2011 5:15:59 AM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proven to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: massmike
Treason. It's high time we redefine these attempts to define symbolic patriotism as callous insults to instead be aiding and comforting the enemy. This is the second time in as many weeks that I've read that displaying the AMERICAN flag in AMERICA might offend someone. Reopen the asylums and start stocking them with liberals, Muslims and scientologists.
35 posted on 05/13/2011 5:23:42 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Chickensoup

I can certainly believe that, thanks


36 posted on 05/13/2011 5:25:02 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: Shimmer1

And, you know this how?


37 posted on 05/13/2011 7:44:17 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: FourPeas

from reading the comments from the locals at the end of the story


38 posted on 05/13/2011 9:49:17 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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