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Aerosmith Says Hell No When Asked to Reunite for the American Idol Finale
Vote for the Worst ^ | 05/14/2011

Posted on 05/15/2011 9:17:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Remember how Steven Tyler has been saying that Aerosmith would perform with James Durbin at the Idol finale? Well it looks like he's the only band member who wants to do that. The Boston Herald reports that the other members of Aerosmith don't want to do it because they'd rather wait to promote something for their band. Besides, the last time we saw Joe Perry was when he played with Sanjaya at the season 6 finale. How could you possibly top that? (Answer: You can't)


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: aerosmith; americanidol; haley; haleyreinhart; steventyler; teamhaley
OK, for those who DON'T CARE about American Idol, please don't bother posting here. We know how you feel.
1 posted on 05/15/2011 9:17:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

More here:

http://news.bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/2011_0514aerosmith_nixes_idol_gig_band_wont_back_up_stevens_fox-y_promise/srvc=home&position=also


Aerosmith nixes ‘Idol’ gig

Band won’t back up Steven’s Fox-y promise

Aerosmith, fronted by new “American Idol” judge Steven Tyler, told the show’s producers last night to Dream On — the Bad Boys of Boston refuse to reunite onstage during the May 26 finale of the uber-popular Fox TV singing contest.

Sources close to the band told the Track that the four other members of Aerosmith weren’t interested in playing the gig despite Tyler’s repeated pronouncements that the rockers would perform at the crowning of this season’s “American Idol.”

While no official reason was given for taking a pass on the highly rated national TV gig, sources said Joe Perry, Tom Hamilton, Joey Kramer and Brad Whitford would rather appear on “Idol” when the band has something to promote like an upcoming tour or a new album.

For the past nine months, the band has been on somewhat of a Permanent Vacation while Tyler soaked up the spotlight as America’s favorite judge on the retooled Fox reality show.

There’s been an attempt at songwriting in La-La by Steven and some members of the band, but nothing with Perry, with whom Tyler has written dozens of monster hits like “Walk This Way.”

Perry, as you are so aware by now, has been estranged from his longtime writing partner ever since Tyler took the “American Idol” gig without giving his bandmates a head’s up.

And if that wasn’t enough, Steven revealed in his new book, “Does the Noise in My Head Bother You,” that Joe became addicted to prescription drugs during his painful knee surgeries back in 2008. (Joe hasn’t responded to the allegations.)

In fact, yesterday during a death march of Boston radio station visits to flog his new single, “(It) Feels So Good,” as well as his new autobiography, Tyler said Perry will have to “get over it” and get down to business of songwriting this summer.

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2 posted on 05/15/2011 9:18:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
The last time we saw Joe Perry was when he played with Sanjaya at the season 6 finale.

That's pretty much rock bottom.

The last good album Aerosmith released? 35 years ago (Rocks).

3 posted on 05/15/2011 9:20:53 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SeekAndFind

The only thing I will say is that James should have won the whole thing. I will be watching the finale with family but now any one of the three can win and I don’t really mind. I do believe that Scotty will win though as the girls will probably split the votes.


4 posted on 05/15/2011 9:22:32 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind
Get Rod Stewart

"Ahhh.. I pooped em!"

5 posted on 05/15/2011 9:26:13 AM PDT by mylife
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To: napscoordinator

Speaking for myself only...

Haley Reinhart is an ACQUIRED TASTE.

She flew under the radar for the first few weeks because she’s so versatile, she does various genres, which marked her initially as an undefined artist.

Look at the others — Scott and Lauren are country, James is Metal Rock, Jacob is the Luther Vandros type, Stephnao is Bruno Mars, Pia does Power Ballads and is compared to Celine. But What is Haley? She does — Country, Rock, Blues, Jazz, etc. That’s why Randy, J-Lo and Jim Iovine have a hard time placing her as an artist...

She’s so versatile, it’s hard to pigeon hole her, which is EXACTLY the point of this competition — the ability to span various musical niches.

So, after B-B-B Bennie and the Jets ( is that the right number of B’s?), Blue ( Dig that Yoddle ), Rolling in the Deep, Beautiful, House of the Rising Sun and I Who Have Nothing, and of course, the outstanding Scat music duet she did with Casey Abrams in the song — Moanin’ …. I’m officially in the Haley Reinhart bandwagon.

She deserves to win (but my guess is she won’t so you’re right, this is Scottie’s to lose).

However, if she were to make an album, it would be great listening.

Her genre is the jazzy, jazz rock. She ought to avoid the genre of Rihanna, Fergie, Beyonce and even J-Lo (it’s too crowded already).

The genre that would fit her to a T would be Adele and Esperanza Spalding’s genre.

I look forward to her album regardless of her winning or losing.


6 posted on 05/15/2011 9:27:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
OK, for those who DON'T CARE about American Idol, please don't bother posting here. We know how you feel.

Agreed. I do not watch American Idol and only clicked on it to read about Aerosmith. I do not understand why people click on links and put "who cares?" or "yawn". If you are not interested in the topic why waste your time responding?

Interesting article by the way.

7 posted on 05/15/2011 9:37:51 AM PDT by softwarecreator (You say you want a revolution, well, you know ... we'd all love to see the plan.)
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To: SeekAndFind
OK, for those who DON'T CARE about American Idol, please don't bother posting here. We know how you feel.

Agreed. I do not watch American Idol and only clicked on it to read about Aerosmith. I do not understand why people click on links and put "who cares?" or "yawn". If you are not interested in the topic why waste your time responding?

Interesting article by the way.

8 posted on 05/15/2011 9:38:00 AM PDT by softwarecreator (You say you want a revolution, well, you know ... we'd all love to see the plan.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe Perry from 2008: “We pretty much stay out of it (politics), but seeing so many people come out for Obama, I just felt like ‘What the hell, I might as well raise my hand for this side (McCain). I’ve been a hardcore Republican my whole life. My mother and father drilled into me from the very start that if you work hard and be positive, you’ll get what you’re working for. I guess I’m living proof of that.”


9 posted on 05/15/2011 9:38:50 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: Mr. Mojo
The last good album Aerosmith released? 35 years ago (Rocks).

Correct, and they weren't even that good then. In the 60's or even early 70's they never would have made it. They only became popular at a time when rock was at a very low Ebb. They were never a super group like the Beatles, Stones, ect. and they weren't even an influential group like the Yardbirds or the Byrds. They have no tunes of lasting value like these other groups. In short, they were one of the most overrated groups in rock history. If I've offended some Aerosmith fans, good you need to be offended.
10 posted on 05/15/2011 9:39:31 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well it would be a great promotional opportunity. It would be fun to see James perform with them.


11 posted on 05/15/2011 9:48:05 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: truthguy
I saw them in '77 or '78 at the L.A. Forum, and it was one of the worst concerts I've ever attended. Too drunk to play, in all likelihood. Thankfully it was also one of the shortest shows ever -- they left the stage after only an hour. But their fans were pretty peeved about that.

In their prime ('74 - '76) they were better than average (in the studio), but certainly not a Hall of Fame quality band. You're right -- they appeared on the scene at the perfect time (for them).

12 posted on 05/15/2011 9:50:29 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: truthguy
They only became popular at a time when rock was at a very low Ebb. They were never a super group like the Beatles, Stones, ect. and they weren't even an influential group like the Yardbirds or the Byrds.

LOL! Looking at your list I'd say you think rock has been at an ebb since 1965.

13 posted on 05/15/2011 10:06:21 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I knew trhere was a reason I have always liked Aerosmith, although I liked the 70’s incarnation more than the 80’s/90’s one.


14 posted on 05/15/2011 10:13:24 AM PDT by gthog61
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To: SeekAndFind

Too bad. I was looking forward to it. It could have only helped perry sell albums in the future ( or the next day). Stupid decision. Tyler is the smart one.


15 posted on 05/15/2011 10:18:18 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: napscoordinator

There won’t be 2 girls in the final if Scotty is in the final.
So, there won’t be vote splitting in the final.

The likely outcome is that one of the 2 girls goes next, and it’s Scotty vs. one girl in the finals.


16 posted on 05/15/2011 10:19:25 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Mr. Mojo

Personally, I love Honkin’ on Bobo. It’s one of those albums I listen to at least once or twice a week in my mix.


17 posted on 05/15/2011 10:20:57 AM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay (Every man dies, but not every man really lives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Haley is an acquired taste much like poi or breast milk cheese.

She has a beautiful voice when she isn’t yelling, which means only for the first 20 second of each song. She never believes her lyrics; she overacts them, smiling all the way. She’s not very genuine and she doesn’t put herself out there. She focuses on her cute body rather than displaying her talents and “heart” to their best.


18 posted on 05/15/2011 10:21:39 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: truthguy

Toys In The Attic has always been my all-time favorite Aerosmith album. They were incredible back then.


19 posted on 05/15/2011 10:25:38 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: VeniVidiVici
LOL! Looking at your list I'd say you think rock has been at an ebb since 1965.

No, You've got your dates wrong. Most people of my generation who were R&R fans began to notice a qualitative decline somewhere in the mid 1970's. So 1965 is ludicrous date. Rock was alive and on fire in 1965. There was so much good music that even great tunes would never make it past the top 20 lists of the time.

A decade later things were in steep decline. I don't really know why. Yes there were still good groups around but not nearly so many and those great groups still together didn't seem to produce the quality of material. Think about it. Did the Stones ever do anything really great after about 1975? (about the time M.Taylor left).

A lot of time has passed and from time to time some really good music has been produced. The have been a number of ebbs and flows. But the time period between say 1975 to the early 1980's was certainly a low period. I haven't been paying much attention since about 2000. It's just too depressing. There is no R&R scene to speak of. Rap is *hit and that's being kind.
20 posted on 05/15/2011 10:26:46 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“Rock and roll’s been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly died.”


21 posted on 05/15/2011 10:28:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“The day, the music died”....American Pie


22 posted on 05/15/2011 10:35:47 AM PDT by gramho12
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To: truthguy

PU must be a generational thing because for me rock wasn’t rock until heavy metal came to be in the early 70’s.I consider most of what was made in the 60’s equivelent to the AT40 and unlistenable.That was my parents generations music not mine.


23 posted on 05/15/2011 10:50:55 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba
PU must be a generational thing because for me rock wasn’t rock until heavy metal came to be in the early 70’s.I consider most of what was made in the 60’s equivelent to the AT40 and unlistenable.That was my parents generations music not mine.

Yours is a post that bears replying to. There was nearly 20 years of Rock & Roll prior to the heavy metal sounds that came in the late 1960s and early 1970s. R&R has a particular sound and it is characterized by a sound that makes you want to get up in dance (or at least move) for lack of a better definition. Heavy Metal does none of the above and the problem with it is that no one has even come close to doing it as well as Jimi Hendrix or Zeppelin did in the aforementioned time period. You cannot make up your own definitions.

Heavy Metal isn't R&R or even Rock because you don't rock and you don't roll. Most heavy metal bands are noise makers plain and simple. Very few have musical talent and no songs or tunes from these bands have any lasting value that I'm aware of. They appeal to adolescent tastes. If that's offensive, so be it. If you don't believe me, try this on for size. See if you can hum a tune from any of that music or for that matter even sing along with the song. You most probably cannot because there is no melody to speak of. And if you watch audiences listening to heavy metal groups, you will notice an absence of movement.

So I will conclude that Heavy Metal isn't rock & roll or even rock. It's should not appropriate that title just as Rap (even more horrific) shouldn't be mentioned as rock & roll or rap. It's another genre.
24 posted on 05/15/2011 11:12:18 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: truthguy
If I've offended some Aerosmith fans, good you need to be offended.

ROFL.

25 posted on 05/15/2011 11:15:24 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: truthguy
As Bob Seger sings:

Still like that old time rock and roll
That kind of music just soothes the soul
I reminisce about the days of old
With that old time rock and roll

Call me a relic call me what you will
Say I'm old fashioned say I'm over the hill
Today's music ain't got the same soul
I like that old time rock and roll

26 posted on 05/15/2011 11:45:16 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: truthguy

That is your opinion and like they say opinions are like @**holes everyone has one.


27 posted on 05/15/2011 11:49:25 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: truthguy
“So I will conclude that Heavy Metal isn't rock & roll or even rock.”

You may be right, strictly speaking, but the reality for me is that I really don't like a lot of what would be traditionally characterized as ‘rock’, although I very much appreciate its value. If I had to listen to CCR or, the Stones, or Chuck Berry, etc. for an extended period it would bore me, but that's obviously just me. For the record, I don't like most ‘heavy metal’.

Regarding your comment about musicianship, I agree that there are many out there who aren't technically proficient or innovative musicians, but many who are play music that you probably wouldn't consider Rock and Roll. For example, Steve Howe of Yes is an absolutely phenomenal guitarist, and Bill Bruford who played with Yes and King Crimson is a phenomenal drummer. Yes and Crimson were very innovative as well, but you either like their stuff, or you don't.

28 posted on 05/15/2011 11:58:19 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I agree. After you listen to him for awhile you can hear that what he is doing is amazing. But most people don’t like him and can’t appreciate his talent.


29 posted on 05/15/2011 12:15:07 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

I’m not into Jame’s music choices, but his talent amazed me. He should have won. I’d like to see American Idol count votes by the number of people who buy the singer’s songs.


30 posted on 05/15/2011 1:26:27 PM PDT by aimhigh (True bitter clingers cling to their guns AND their bibles.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Freepers, vote for Scotty McCreery, the 17 year old with the fantastic voice who is being ostrasized all over the net by the Libs for asserting his Christian Conservative values.

He dared to kiss the cross he wears around his neck and sing a song mentioning Jesus!

31 posted on 05/15/2011 4:45:15 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d never watched Idol until a couple of seasons ago. Inlaws in Arkansas emailed me that their cousin had made it into the final 10, so I began watching. That cousin was Kris Allen and he won. That got me hooked on Idol.

It’s a bit disconcerting that there are really folks like you ‘out there’ that can quickly name singers that I have never heard of before! (LOL, because I’m 68 and don’t listen to that music, so that’s not intended as a rock thrown at you, SeekAndFind) I’m more into DooWop and R&R.

I had never heard of Steve Tyler until he became a judge on Idol. The guy is a freak! ....Randy seems to be the most consistent judge, as he will criticize when he feels it’s right. Christina softens every criticism like a mommy. Steve never criticizes and seldom has more than a few words to say.

Jacob is, at best, an off Broadway singer or a chorus singer in a church and should have been gone a month or so ago. Stefano is a wimpy little guy that was kept in by the pre-teen girls that read mags like Tigerbeat. James is a guy who was trying to emulate the flaming queen Lambert, who lost a couple of seasons ago, by wearing earings and screaming. Casey was a total loser and I was amazed that the judges “saved” him from being voted off and kept promoting him as being so great for several weeks. Casey is talented with instruments, stage presence and some of his singing, but he is more suited to doing a lounge act in a low scale Las Vegas casino.

Haley is hot, so she’ll get a lot of teen male votes. Both she and Lauren are very versatile and seem to quickly adapt to different styles of music. (I just use ‘styles’ because I can’t bring myself to use words like ‘genres’) Scotty definitely has a career ahead of him in the music industry, whether he wins or not. He sings better than some of the CW males who currently are doing tours and doing recordings.

I’m guessing the final two will be Haley and Scotty.

Sorry for the long posting. I’ve had a sleepless night.


32 posted on 05/16/2011 3:54:23 AM PDT by octex
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To: truthguy

Way to go, truthguy!

R&R and DooWop began in the early ‘50s. The music was unique, ‘danceable’ and the lyrics could be understood, unlike this hip hop rap crap of today and the heavy metal style of the ‘70-’80s. .......I will admit that there were a few Led Z tunes that I did like, along with ZZ Top.


33 posted on 05/16/2011 4:13:10 AM PDT by octex
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To: SeekAndFind
"But What is Haley? She does — Country, Rock, Blues, Jazz, etc. "

She DOES have a strange sounding voice when she sings straight (no growling) - I think she very much emulates Billy Holiday - that 30's style.

34 posted on 05/20/2011 3:48:37 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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