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Heaven is a 'fairy story', says Stephen Hawking
Breitbart ^ | 5/16/2011

Posted on 05/16/2011 12:41:52 PM PDT by Former Fetus

British scientist Stephen Hawking has branded heaven a "fairy story" for people afraid of the dark, in his latest dismissal of the concepts underpinning the world's religions.

The author of 1988 international best-seller "A Brief History of Time" said in an interview with The Guardian published on Monday that his views were partly influenced by his battle with motor neurone disease.

"I have lived with the prospect of an early death for the last 49 years. I'm not afraid of death, but I'm in no hurry to die. I have so much I want to do first," he told the newspaper.

"I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark."

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: atheism; atheists; delusion; hawking; heaven; scientism
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I realize the source is not the most reliable... yet I can believe that Hawking would say such a thing. I feel sorry for him, it won't be long before he has to ackowledge that Jesus is Lord. But it will be too late for him!
1 posted on 05/16/2011 12:42:00 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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thank goodness the elites are out there who can lead us, the poor masses, out of our silly superstitions.....

being brilliant doesnt necessary make you smart...


2 posted on 05/16/2011 12:43:33 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Former Fetus

So is Hawking’s “finite but unbounded” crap. I mean, who believes that, really?


3 posted on 05/16/2011 12:43:33 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Former Fetus
I guess he'll find out soon enough whether Hell is a fairy tale.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
4 posted on 05/16/2011 12:43:54 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Tublecane

the mental gymnastics you can jump thru are amazing to see when someone tries to avoid God.....


5 posted on 05/16/2011 12:46:22 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Former Fetus

He better hope he is right.


6 posted on 05/16/2011 12:47:06 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Former Fetus

As someone who hs lived with a diease that could kill me for all but 9 years of my life I am sad for him. I’d imagine somewhere along the line his faith was destroed for him by someone much like almost happened to me. A relative took me to a faith healer when I was barely 10 then when I wan’t cured I was told by the same relative that it must be because I wasn’t a good enough person to recieve healing. An awful thing to say to a child that was just diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. Of course then when her husband died of lung cancer and wasn;’t healed either I didn’t hear that again....


7 posted on 05/16/2011 12:47:54 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Former Fetus
The hand of god is evident in Hawking's continued life and the contributions ha has made. Most good, some not so much.

My mother lived for less than two years after showing the first signs of ALS. It was very hard to find the hand of God for me in that experience. It was only later on when I reflected on her strength thru the whole ordeal that I realized that the hand was there.

I now know what bravery is.

8 posted on 05/16/2011 12:47:58 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Tublecane
That's just how brilliant British
scientists say, "less is more".

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9 posted on 05/16/2011 12:48:07 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja
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To: Former Fetus
“There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers”

BS

The company I work for buys them and we get stuck with using them - hang on - I've got to throw in another shovel full of coal since my computer is steam powered. (But next week I'll be in tall cotton - we're moving up to Windows 95!).

10 posted on 05/16/2011 12:48:18 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Former Fetus

I completely agree!!! And Amen!!! Truly sad, I have a couple of friends that are atheists. They spend and inordinate amount of time, trying to debunk God, the bible, heaven, ect. If there is no God, and they truly believe that. Why do they spend so much time devoted to trying to debunk it all?


11 posted on 05/16/2011 12:48:59 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Former Fetus

I believe refusing to acknowledge heaven is a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Sadly, hell doesn’t work the same way.

No God, No peace

Know God, Know peace


12 posted on 05/16/2011 12:49:12 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Former Fetus

Stephen Hawking is a “Fairy Story” himself..


13 posted on 05/16/2011 12:49:23 PM PDT by ransacked
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To: Former Fetus

Why would it be too late for him? God knew exactly what Hawkings was going to live to be and think, didn’t He?


14 posted on 05/16/2011 12:49:29 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: raygunfan

“the mental gymnastics you can jump thru are amazing to see when someone tries to avoid God”

It’s not just that. I don’t see why rabid atheists believe in it, let alone calm, rational, well-educated, (supposedly) uninterested scientists.


15 posted on 05/16/2011 12:49:53 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Former Fetus

1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise man?
Where is the scholar?
Where is the philosopher of this age?
Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?


16 posted on 05/16/2011 12:50:59 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Former Fetus

I just finished reading “Heaven is for Real” about (then) 4 year old Colton Burpo. Hawking will face judgment day and will highly regret his disbelief.


17 posted on 05/16/2011 12:51:30 PM PDT by albie
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To: Former Fetus

Mr. Hawking, if you are right, what have I, a believer, lost? But if you are wrong, what have you lost?


18 posted on 05/16/2011 12:51:44 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: MsLady

Maybe for the same reason people spend so much time trying to prove there is a God and their beliefs are correct?


19 posted on 05/16/2011 12:52:10 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: raygunfan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2720341/posts


20 posted on 05/16/2011 12:52:24 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Tublecane

Your brain isn’t a computer. It’s alive.


21 posted on 05/16/2011 12:52:24 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tublecane

Your brain isn’t a computer. It’s alive.


22 posted on 05/16/2011 12:52:42 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Former Fetus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2720341/posts


23 posted on 05/16/2011 12:53:00 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Former Fetus

Awesome news! Now we know!!

Since Hawking is a scientist, I eagerly await his documented, published, peer-reviewed and replicated experiment.

Every true scientist knows that one can’t definitively claim anything without following that process.


24 posted on 05/16/2011 12:53:00 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: raygunfan

I would also question the “brilliant” part... although one must admit Hawking has a wildly cruel imagination if it were so...

Thank goodnes for us he’s so dead wrong.

Since, Hawking is so fixated on attempting to rattle the faith masses, I believe he has yet to make his peace with the God he is so bent on disproving in the back of his mind.

Otherwise, he would not care to touch the subject so readily.

There are no atheists on a sinking ship though, guaranteed.


25 posted on 05/16/2011 12:53:47 PM PDT by hope_dies_last
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To: Tublecane

“Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the thought of identifying themselves with Jesus Christ and admitting they are sinners”. -Philip DelRe


26 posted on 05/16/2011 12:54:54 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged". - Reagan)
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To: Former Fetus

He’s just pissed because he’s paralyzed.


27 posted on 05/16/2011 12:55:24 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: JimRed

You make it sound as if believing in God is just a matter of choosing to believe. Isn’t it more than that? How can someone just decide to believe in something where there is no real proof, at least proof that doesn’t require belief in something else?


28 posted on 05/16/2011 12:55:28 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Former Fetus
He's in one of the stages. I wonder if he ever read and understood C.S. Lewis.

Or the Cave Allegory for that matter.

Eventually he will probably come to realize the limitations of the mind of Man. There are things he can't possibly comprehend. None of us can.

And THEN you find FAITH...and Divine Grace..and Forgiveness. Prayers up for SH.

29 posted on 05/16/2011 12:57:05 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Former Fetus

Breitbart isn’t reliable? Since when?


30 posted on 05/16/2011 12:58:28 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: hope_dies_last

Before I found Christ this would have disturbed me, now I just 100% feel sorry for him....he simply does not know, and his ego will not allow him the “Blind Faith” needed to find out.


31 posted on 05/16/2011 12:58:31 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged". - Reagan)
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To: Former Fetus
Ship him to Afghanistan.
32 posted on 05/16/2011 12:59:18 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Former Fetus

Since the computer is used as an analogy, we say that the computer is a physical thing. It is built from dust, and one day it will return to dust. Now what is software but consciousness in another form? Can you touch it? Once it is placed in a computer, it animates it, when it is gone, the computer is no more. We are in our essence software, living within hardware. It is really quite simple. Who wrote that software, we cannot say for certain, but it does exist.


33 posted on 05/16/2011 12:59:26 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Former Fetus

Hawking’s problem is not acknowledging that he was not the “creator” of his own mind. In other words, there is no greater than himself. Such vanity.


34 posted on 05/16/2011 12:59:29 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Former Fetus

The real messed up part is, How long has he been affected by Lou Gehrig’s disease? I am willing to admit that by now he is either senile, or forgets the fact that not many people with his condition actually make it all that long. It won’t just be a matter of acknowledging that Jesus is the savior, there would also be some serious thankfulness deserved as well, for how his life turns out, or has turned out. I am personally concerned that I do not give God enough credit or thanks throughout my life when he really deserves it, and that’s my two cents.


35 posted on 05/16/2011 1:00:19 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Former Fetus

ROM. 14:11”...every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”


36 posted on 05/16/2011 1:00:22 PM PDT by swampfox101
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To: Former Fetus
...his views were partly influenced by his battle with motor neurone disease.

Looking at it another way: He is one of the most gifted (from the standpoint of raw intelligence) people who has ever lived. He has made many contributions to our understanding of the universe. He has flatly stated that he thinks he has more contributions to make and that he is not ready to die. He has managed to survive for a long time with a disease that normally kills within 3-5 years of diagnosis.

Should he REALLY be so certain there is no higher power out there watching out for him?

37 posted on 05/16/2011 1:00:33 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Former Fetus
Mr. Hawking doesn't know if there is a God and he cannot say there is based purely on believe. To him facts are his knowledge base and to him, believing is not knowledge. We are lucky we've had him around this long. Given his condition, lesser men would have quit long ago.
38 posted on 05/16/2011 1:04:14 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: blackdog

Just remember that we have been created for Eternity, not just for this brief learning period we call Time. God has bigger plans for you than merely the Here & Now, if you are willing to accept Him.

Hawking is a brilliant thinker, but one cannot understand the Universe without accepting tutoring from its Creator. Just ask Newton, Kelvin, Faraday, Boyle, Copernicus, Kepler and so on.

http://nobelist.tripod.com/id4.html

Scroll down and read their comments for yourself.


39 posted on 05/16/2011 1:04:14 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less." M Rosen)
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Donate just one

40 posted on 05/16/2011 1:05:26 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: bigjoesaddle
A Good Book

Saw him speak at a Iron Sharpens Iron Conference.

41 posted on 05/16/2011 1:06:07 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged". - Reagan)
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To: stuartcr

You believe first, then the proof follows. God does not reveal Himself to the idly curious.

“Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen”.” Hebrews 10.


42 posted on 05/16/2011 1:06:13 PM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: Former Fetus

Mr. Hawking is unquestionably brilliant, but not as brilliant as he thinks he is. Contemplation of the nature of the universe and everything in it seems quite impressive ... until it is matched against an infinitely longer contemplation, with an infinitely larger perspective.

Rage against one’s Creator is not a philosophy of life, but of death. Best wishes, Mr. Hawking, but consider rebooting your “computer” before it is completely broken down.


43 posted on 05/16/2011 1:06:24 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Former Fetus

He must have a very sad life, if all his experience (and he is a brilliant thinker) leads him to the conclusion that all he is, all his mind and spirit is no more than a computer that will break someday.


44 posted on 05/16/2011 1:08:01 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: stuartcr
How can someone just decide to believe in something where there is no real proof, at least proof that doesn’t require belief in something else?

Many look at the world around them as tangible proof.

Remote cultures with no exposure to Christianity tend to develop a religion as pure chance for all creation seems a greater leap in faith.

45 posted on 05/16/2011 1:09:05 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Former Fetus
Ah! The scientific method. Observable, empirical and measurable. Theory. Hypothesis. Predictions. Theorems. Professor Hawking has complex theories about the nature of the universe that he would fiercely assert as NOT absolute or final. Yet he's 100% sure Heaven is a 'fairy story'.

Note to self. Reread Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy to understand Hawking's thinking on the subject of fairy stories.
46 posted on 05/16/2011 1:10:10 PM PDT by NamVet71MP
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To: Former Fetus

Suddenly a guy I once thought a real smart guy i find to be a simpleton/
Glory be to GOD and his son Jesus Christ.


47 posted on 05/16/2011 1:10:13 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: NamVet71MP

“What about the Babelfish?”
“and God vanished in a poof of logic.”


48 posted on 05/16/2011 1:11:37 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: stuartcr
Why would it be too late for him?
Once he dies, his fate will be cast. He, like everybody else in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth (i.e. hell) will "confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" (Phil 2:11). He'll have to confess, but it won't do him any good!

God knew exactly what Hawkings was going to live to be and think, didn’t He?
Yes, God is omniscient and He knew what Hawkings was going to do. But God gave him, like He gives everybody, a chance to make a decision for or against Him. It was up to Hawkings to make that choice.

49 posted on 05/16/2011 1:11:53 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus
Who ya gonna believe, Steven Hawking or Jesus the Christ? It's not too late Steven.
50 posted on 05/16/2011 1:12:38 PM PDT by drypowder
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