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Presumed Innocent, Anyone? (Ben Steins terrible DSK defense)
American Spectator ^ | 05-17-11 | Ben Stein

Posted on 05/18/2011 9:30:24 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA

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To: Moltke

D’you think?


21 posted on 05/18/2011 12:13:44 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Moltke

To have Stein heading down this strained road of defender suggests something. Sounds plausible to me.


22 posted on 05/18/2011 12:21:10 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

IMHO, we’re looking at a political Badger Game.

The woman is a paid operative, the political fix is in to the courts and media so he’s denied bail and splashed over every front page, and just while he happens to be getting ready to run for president of France.

He’s the head of the IMF - there’s no place for him to run in the common sense of the word. and he lives at a level of wealth and power that simply does not require this if a prostitute - or any number of them - is wanted, in full confidentiality.

You say it’s a power thing? I say you’re right - but it’s a much bigger power thing than forcing himself on one woman. It’s a power thing of self-control and careful, endless plotting and planning at his level. He’s evil, but he’s no fool, and he didn’t get where he is by making this level of mistake.

So, it’s a setup, probably by Sarkozy (note his wife Carla Bruni is now pregnant, which just-so-happens to perfectly psychologically counter this sordid mess with his opponent).

But it’s hardly one to give a damn about - as the IMF head, he’s raping the whole world to death.


23 posted on 05/18/2011 12:23:52 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
2.) In life, events tend to follow patterns. People who commit crimes tend to be criminals, for example. Can anyone tell me any economists who have been convicted of violent sex crimes? Can anyone tell me of any heads of nonprofit international economic entities who have ever been charged and convicted of violent sexual crimes? Is it likely that just by chance this hotel maid found the only one in this category? Maybe Mr. Strauss-Kahn is guilty but if so, he is one of a kind, and criminals are not usually one of a kind.

This is absolutely one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Economists are incapable of committing violent sex crimes? Is this some kind of joke? Is Ben Stein in the early stages of dementia? Get this guy to a neurologist... pronto.
24 posted on 05/18/2011 12:32:38 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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...but he’s no fool, and he didn’t get where he is by making this level of mistake.

Do you have any evidence of his infallibility? There are plenty of geniuses sitting behind bars that got lazy and get caught. There is more evidence with him doing this type of thing than there is of a Grand Conspiracy. Also to call out a maid at a hotel as an obvious operative is equally unfounded. Is there any evidence of that? You seem to be of the mind of Stein on this that DSK is just so smart being the head of the IMF that he is beneath raping.

I agree with you that this should be a non story. This story didn't interest me either until the crazy conspiracies floated out, started by the Socialists in Frogland. If there is one group of people I will immediately dismiss are these Eurotrash Commies.

25 posted on 05/18/2011 12:38:50 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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Kind of like Hollywood rallying behind Polanski. Birds of a feather...


26 posted on 05/18/2011 1:08:46 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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If only our government were so clever to put together such a diabolical scheme. . .

The maid was told the room was empty, was told to clean the room and she went in.

Not a slam against maids, but a lot of them aren't the sharpest people, especially when from a third-world country.

Consider:

Reports are he chased her and finally trapped her in a hallway. Seems we had a president that chased an unwilling female once and propositioned her (Paula Jones). . . and it is alleged he did commit a rape (Broderick).

How hard is it to believe that a self-centered french socialist with arrogance, a history of relentless womanizing and “power” would naturally force himself upon a third-world peon? After all, we had a president do basically the same thing (except the woman was procured by his troopers and the other a “friend”).

The question is, do you believe some third-world maid is quick enough to allege rape, to batter and bloody herself on the spur of the moment, concoct a story that the hotel and police would find so believable they would pursue one of the world's most powerful man to a departing jet and arrest him? To me, that is highly unlikely.

Moreover, how likely is it the police at the scene conspired with the maid to put together a frame-up in moments (ala OJ Simpson). Hardly believable, after all, why would they. They probably had no idea who the guy was and didn't care, either.

Given the above context, and that the story from the guy (didn't happen, well, it did happen) changes, and applying the Bill Clinton standard of behavior (I can do anything against the less powerful because I can, after all, “who’s going to believe you anyway” defense), I go with the guy raping her.

27 posted on 05/18/2011 1:09:38 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Lazlo in PA

Dear Mr. Stein, in answer to question 1.) See Bill Clinton.


28 posted on 05/18/2011 2:56:40 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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