Skip to comments.Parents keep child's gender secret
Posted on 05/22/2011 9:02:58 AM PDT by massmike
So its a boy, right? a neighbour calls out as Kathy Witterick walks by, her four month old baby, Storm, strapped to her chest in a carrier.
Witterick smiles,comments on the sunny spring day, and keeps walking.
Shes used to it. The neighbours know Witterick and her husband, David Stocker, are raising a genderless baby. But they dont pretend to understand it.
Witterick and Stocker believe they are giving their children the freedom to choose who they want to be, unconstrained by social norms about males and females.
What we noticed is that parents make so many choices for their children. Its obnoxious, says Stocker.
The boys are encouraged to challenge how theyre expected to look and act based on their sex.
In fact, in not telling the gender of my precious baby, I am saying to the world, Please can you just let Storm discover for him/herself what s (he) wants to be?!
When asked what psychological harm, if any, could come from keeping the sex of a child secret, Zucker said: One will find out.
The couple plan to keep Storms sex a secret as long as Storm, Kio and Jazz are comfortable with it. In the meantime, philosophy and reality continue to collide.
There are questions about which bathroom Storm will use, but that is a couple of years off. Then there is the tyranny of pronouns, as they call it. They considered referring to Storm as Z. Witterick now calls the baby she, imagining the s in brackets.
For the moment, it feels right.
Everyone keeps asking us, When will this end? says Witterick. And we always turn the question back. Yeah, when will this end? When will we live in a world where people can make choices to be whoever they are?
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Nitwittery breeding. Nothing more - nothing less.
...So it IS a choice,then?????
Stupid asses. Their baby already is someone. He or she doesn’t have to discover it. They act like the baby (child) can choose different DNA from what it’s born with.
I need to get my doctorate in psychiatry, because this kid is going to get my house in the Hamptons.
That's because... they're CHILDREN and don't know better.
What a nut.
How did these two morons manage to conceive?
And let the little crumb-cruncher try wandering into the wrong bathroom under guise of "countering the insidious practice of gender-norming" or somesuch.
He will be on so many sexual-predator lists; she, if older, will be sexually harrassed in a heartbeat.
Next stop: bestiality. ("Why be speciesist in love?")
NO cheers, unfortunately.
Sadly, I guess my forum name fits well in this case.
Nitwits breeding. Nitwits reporting on them. The brother’s hair is worn in long, braided pig tails. Wonder if Storm was born without genitals, because that would seem to solve the mystery.
....Now taking bets on who will be the first troll to show up shouting; “...But you conservatives are always saying you’re FOR parent’s rights!”......
This is complete and utter lunacy.
Though I guess it is in California, so one shouldn’t be shocked.
This is unbelievable.
I notice the article says they vacationed in Cuba, and spent time there learning about the revolution. And they spent time in Mexico with some rebel groups who had been fighting the government there.
The mom and dad have different last names, so that right there tips us off that they are liberal radical types, having to make that particular political statement.
Yep, all of society, and every culture on earth, is wrong about gender roles, gender norms, all of that. Only these 2 liberal parents know what is best for the world. (sarcasm)
What is better for the kids? Being raised genderless in a world in which male and female are universal constants, AND, always having to fight to explain things to the rest of the unenlightened world which has no clue what you are doing or why you are doing it? Or is it better to conform to societal expectations so that the rest of your life runs more smoothly?
I guess radical liberal types want to fight with everybody, every day, about how enlightened they are, rather than conform.
It would be intersting to test these parents in some ways. For example, what if I want the wife for myself? What if I want their house and all their personal belongings, because I think the social norm of private property, home ownership, the status of their marriage, etc. is simply a social construct which doesn’t allow us to really express our true feelings. What would their reactions be to something like that? Would they excuse that because of someone else expressing themselves, or would they fall back on social norms regarding those issues?
These people live in Toronto.
Well, Canada, California, wherever, doesn’t matter so much as the liberal radical thought process behind this nonsense.
It’s a boy, because they wouldn’t be concerned with suppressing the natural tendencies of a girl.
They won’t be consistent with the “neutral” claim.
They will attempt feminize him.
I hope he overcomes their nonsense.
nature vs nurture lol nature always wins. Cultural norms change, think about the pics of Churchill when he was a toddler.. he was dressed as a toddler, but at first glance using todays lense, most would believe he was a girl.
As much as these parents would like to think they are raising a gender neutral child... it simply can’t be done. Costuming does not equate gender.
What a couple of dunderheads. Life is tough enough.
This is child abuse - social services should get involved with this nutcase of a “family”.
It is totally amazing what great lengths people will go to to make fools of themselves.
I don’t care for the increasing use of ‘gender’ instead of the correct word in this context, ‘sex.’
Words can come in three genders -masculine, feminine, and neutral. People come in one of two sexes - male or female.
True, there are also hermaphrodites.
Ahh... One of those girls who is born with male genitalia...
A hermaphrodite? Is that the word?
Sounds like a recipe for raising a serial-killer.
Too many dingbats breeding IMHO!
At this point the state has an interest in the abuse of thic child by parents who obviously are psycho. Everything about this story is icky to the point where I want to bathe from having read what disgusting feel-good liberalism actually does.
She reminded me of something made out of spare parts,
there was no theme in her life. All religions mixed together, it all made no sense.
I have, over the years, as manager or co-worker dealt with the adult children of hippies. They are screwed-up in countless ways. Worse, they have no model by which to raise their own children so this cultural abuse gets handed down. Drug and alcohol abuse is rampant. Ive had several tell me that theyd get treats like getting to smoke the roaches for finishing their homework. In some cases their parents loved to get high with them and bond. In other cases, the parents would tell the kids not to smoke while sucking down the last of a water-pipe; or drinking the pipes water.
These, for the most part, are seriously dysfunctional people.
I have on every occasion possible suggested to the hippie grandchildren that joining the Marines might add to their life diversity. The suggestion has been universally met with horror.
I recently read in an FR posted article that in Europe children as young as 12 were getting government paid sex changes. Children try so hard to live up to (or down to) the expectation of their care givers I cant help but think their care givers are like these people. They laud politically correct actions so much, the children, not even realizing what theyre doing, are playing their gender game. They will be permanently ruined.
Perhaps because they're not old enough to choose yet?! Good grief ... why don't you just get the infant his/her own apartment and make him/her take a job? Gotta start 'em young, ya know.
Russian has 5 genders.
Wow. Poor child’s name is prophetic.
Let’s hope the kid makes the free choice to move out of the whacko ward his parents call home as soon as possible.
And I thought my Narcissist parents did their best to try and mess me up.
These kids are soooo screwed.
I went to college and majored in social work with the intention of working with abused and neglected children. The problem was, I felt the best way to deal with abusive parents was to beat the living hell out of them so they really know what that child has experienced. Unfortunatly, that treatment option is frowned upon. I still think that is the best way to deal with abusive parents and these two wackos should get immediate treatment.
Ballbats before dawn.
Until it stops.
They are assuming that by not influencing the children, the are creating a vacuum in which the children will become creatures of their own creation.
Not so. If one reads the entire article, It is easily seen that these children are being raised in secrecy, which by its very nature will have an extremely powerful influence on them.
A lack of influence by the parents does not equal zero influence at all. They will be influenced by pop culture for the most part, as it is so prevalent in our society.
Take note of the extreme lengths the parents take in isolating the children.
They are not free in the least bit, they are prisoners.
The kids are toast. Witterick and Stocker can't even figure out if their in the same family.
Russian has THREE genders.
being a male or female is not a choice.
This is child abuse. Or at least it will become child abuse if they keep this up.
Sounds like the actions of a couple of attention whores.
Sounds like the actions of a couple of attention whores.
I once new of of hippie commune couple who wouldn’t name their baby because it was “imposing” something on the baby without its wishes. Such is this insanity.
"IT" all grown up.
I wasn’t aware of that. Neat!
Yeah, noticed I was wrong a bit after I posted. Toronto is pretty flaky though as you say.
Do they run around to hide while changing the baby’s diaper in case someone sees genitalia? What about the birth certificate - did they lie on it or beg for a gender neutral one?
I predict that one day Storm will be a very effed up individual.
Children are not adults, which is why those “obnoxious” parents have to make decisions for them until they’re old enough to take care of themselves. And you can’t get around the fact that DNA assigns everyone a sex no matter how much you deny it.
Why certain people should never breed.
And my parents were so F'n straight that it took the Army to convince me that my parents were the greatest people in the world........