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I think Tim Pawlenty will be the last man standing and get the nomination (vanity)
5/23/2011 | Self

Posted on 05/23/2011 9:22:50 AM PDT by Signalman

This is just, of course, a prediction on my part but here's why:

1. As a former governor, he has executive experience and, from what I understand, he was a pretty good governor. After 4 years of Obozo's incompetence, the American people are longing for a competent administrator.

2. Unlike Romney, who still refuses to disavow Romneycare, Pawlenty came out of the gate admitting he was wrong on Cap and Trade. That was a smart move, and it takes takes that monkey off his back. And two other competing governors, Daniels and Huck, are out of the race.

3. Unlike Palin and Newt, Pawlenty has an uncontroversial past (as far as I know) and doesn't appear to have any significant issues from his past that the rabid lame-stream media could use against him.

4. He's not AS conservative as many of us would like but, on the other hand, he won't have any problems getting the Independent voters and as we all know, without them, we can't win.


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1 posted on 05/23/2011 9:22:54 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Palin has a controversial past???


2 posted on 05/23/2011 9:24:13 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Signalman
Unlike Palin and Newt, Pawlenty has an uncontroversial past (as far as I know)

Trust me, that will last all of 5 seconds once he declares. GOP backgrounds are subject to attack journalism. libs get the bye.

3 posted on 05/23/2011 9:25:14 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (osama gets 72 virgins. We get 72 versions...)
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To: Michael Barnes

If Big Media perceives Pawlenty might win they will invent a controversial past for him like they did with Palin.


4 posted on 05/23/2011 9:27:12 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Signalman

I just want to know if Pawlenty will keep voters awake enough to go to the polls!


5 posted on 05/23/2011 9:27:16 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Signalman

Meh
Maybe pre 1960 politics but the ugly truth is you can’t just have good ideas but you have to be a dynamic figure who can sell them and attract people into the fold. T-Paw has nothing exciting about him.


6 posted on 05/23/2011 9:27:43 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Signalman

BARF!


7 posted on 05/23/2011 9:28:18 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: Michael Barnes

You know what I thought was strange?

On Fox news they were discussing the GOP field, and who might possibly enter the race, and I didn’t hear Sarah Palin’s name mentioned even once!

It’s like they were intentionally choosing NOT to mention her.

If she enters the race, I wonder if she’ll get shut out by the media other than to be ridiculed.


8 posted on 05/23/2011 9:28:44 AM PDT by Califreak (You can't go swimming in a baseball pool)
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To: Bigtigermike

You are getting sleepy...
You’re eye lids are like led.
You are safe and warm.
Sleep....Sleeeeep

When I snap my fingers you will awake refreshed with a new President. 1.....2....


9 posted on 05/23/2011 9:28:50 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Signalman

Herman Cain will give him the biggest challenge.


10 posted on 05/23/2011 9:29:03 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Signalman

Fred Thompson was a better Conservative, and less boring too. He didn’t get far.


11 posted on 05/23/2011 9:29:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Michael Barnes

Yes. It might be unfair but she does.


12 posted on 05/23/2011 9:30:02 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Michael Barnes
Palin has a controversial past???

What I'm referring to is her daughter's out-of-wedlock child, and her leaving her position as Governor of AK in the middle of her term. I'm not saying these things are right or wrong, just that the media and the Dems will have this to "use" against her should she be the nominee.
13 posted on 05/23/2011 9:30:07 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Too bad. We’ve seen (with McCain) what happens when a RINO runs against Obama.


14 posted on 05/23/2011 9:30:20 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: Bigtigermike

Cap and Tax anyone. Oh, he’s now decided he’s not for it anymore? Where was that penetrating insight when it was needed?


15 posted on 05/23/2011 9:30:44 AM PDT by JPG (Bibi 1, Zippy 0.)
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To: Signalman
he won't have any problems getting the Independent voters

BS. They'll vote for Zero because they'll believe George Bush is still President.

16 posted on 05/23/2011 9:31:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Just what this family needs: more smugness.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

He didn’t get far because he quit.


17 posted on 05/23/2011 9:31:44 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Signalman
he won't have any problems getting the Independent voters and as we all know, without them, we can't win.

I'm an independent voter, and I won't vote for this McCain Republican.

18 posted on 05/23/2011 9:32:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Capital punishment is pro-life.)
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To: Signalman

BS!

When leftist sites comments say something good about a Republican, I tend to believe they’re trying to pick our candidate like they did McLame.

No pawlenty!


19 posted on 05/23/2011 9:33:02 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: Signalman
he won't have any problems getting the Independent voters and as we all know, without them, we can't win

Enough of this nonsense. I'll repost the same response I had to the BS last night:

No thank you. No more squishy moderates. If we lose, so be it, at least the country will understand it is a dem/liberal/communist/marxist running the country into the ground.

I will no longer “hold my nose” and vote against one opponent just “to win”.

If the country needs to be “ruined” due to Obama, so be it. The sooner the majority of Americans realize why this country is headed in the wrong direction, the better. Putting in moderates only insures that we continue heading in the wrong direction.

In any case, there are so many “parasites” in this country at this time that the only true fix will be a second American Revolution, and it will be a vicious, bloody affair that will either end up with this countries citizens enslaved or once again FREE.

I'm putting my foot down. I took an oath when I joined the Army, and I am ready to live up to that oath, even if it means forgoing my comfortable life, and possibly my life as well.

Hopefully it will not come to that, but we are headed towards that direction, or outright slaves to the federal government, IMO, and I will not tolerate the latter.
20 posted on 05/23/2011 9:33:17 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Pawlenty is like the new school superintendent everyone mocks when his back is turned

“I’m here to change things, people! And I really mean business. Really. Things have to change and that’s why I’m here!”

zzzzzzz

Who knew getting elected governor of a boring state only needs good 15-second sound bites

He better get a tough charismatic VP to get people’s attention and respect


21 posted on 05/23/2011 9:34:49 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Signalman

Those have been covered ad nauseum. For pete’s sakes. But, nice try bringing that back up.

T-Paw? Nah.


22 posted on 05/23/2011 9:35:27 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Signalman
I won't vote for him. There are two chances that the Republican Party will nominate someone that I will vote for. Slim and none. The one's that I will vite for so far are:1. Sarah Palin 2. Allen West. 3. Herman Cain . Bachman

Who I believe that the Republican Party will nominate: Mitt Rommy

What do I believe that the result of this will be? A second term for obama.

23 posted on 05/23/2011 9:36:11 AM PDT by sport
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To: Signalman

No more RINOS.


24 posted on 05/23/2011 9:36:40 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Signalman

Not likely. Pawlenty is going to fade away rather quickly, I think.


25 posted on 05/23/2011 9:37:03 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Signalman

Sooooo.... you want the democrats to approve of your candidate eh!..
Heres a clue.. The best candidate would be the one the democrats despise.. THE MOST..
If I have to explain WHY? to you .. you’re probably a democrat yourself..


26 posted on 05/23/2011 9:37:06 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Bigtigermike
Yeah, he's about as exciting as watching paint dry, isn't he?

Plus, he won elections with 44% and 47% of the vote, respectively, before Minnesota reverted to their "stuck on stupid" default setting and elected Mark Dayton last year.

Not exactly sterling credentials for a presidential run.

27 posted on 05/23/2011 9:37:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mnehring

Generally true, but perhaps this time around - given that Obama has an over the top personality T Paw may be a needed and welcome steady hand, a lot less drama at the helm of the ship of state.


28 posted on 05/23/2011 9:38:23 AM PDT by unique
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To: Signalman
Tim doesn't know how to beat state-run media at their own game.

Sarah does.

29 posted on 05/23/2011 9:39:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Liberal Jews who vote for Obama deserve the Sharia Law he intends to bring about.)
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To: sport

Man, you are inside my head, doing my typing for me!


30 posted on 05/23/2011 9:39:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Signalman

If so, he’ll have to assuage the Tea Party and pick a Veep more to their liking, than he is currently to their liking as a potential Pres. candidate.
Palin, Bachmann, Cain come to mind. Which would inevitably make Pawlenty look like John McCain #2, with all the anticipated pain that wouild imply.There is NO WAY at this
point anyway, that Pawlenty has Tea Party excitement behind his candidacy, and without that I doubt he can win the Presidency.


31 posted on 05/23/2011 9:40:03 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (BURMA SHAVE! (Sorry you missed the previous four taglines))
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To: Signalman

If so, he’ll have to assuage the Tea Party and pick a Veep more to their liking, than he is currently to their liking as a potential Pres. candidate.
Palin, Bachmann, Cain come to mind. Which would inevitably make Pawlenty look like John McCain #2, with all the anticipated pain that wouild imply.There is NO WAY at this
point anyway, that Pawlenty has Tea Party excitement behind his candidacy, and without that I doubt he can win the Presidency.


32 posted on 05/23/2011 9:40:17 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (BURMA SHAVE! (Sorry you missed the previous four taglines))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Signalman.


33 posted on 05/23/2011 9:40:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: sport; Signalman

Since 1900, only one Republican became president by defeating an incumbent. That was Ronald Reagan, in 1980. He had these four traits that might have helped him:
1. He was conservative.
2. He was a governor.
3. He sought the nomination, in a previous election.
4. He was from the West.

These Republicans, who might run, have at least three of those four traits: Sarah Palin, Dirk Kempthorne, and Mitt Romney. I hope that all of them will run, and I hope that Tim Pawlenty and Buddy Roemer will run. I don’t know which of those five I’d support. I’ll decide in the end of June. I hope that at least four of them will continue campaigning until the convention. If that happens, no one will get the majority of the delegates before the convention. The convention will be more suspenseful and exciting, causing more people to watch and hear the great republican ideas. That happened in 1980, and Reagan won about 40 states.


34 posted on 05/23/2011 9:41:26 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Signalman

One more time: Pawlenty balloned the deficit, passed a kind cap and taxed that will cost up to 11,000 jobs plus drive up energy cost.Passed a smoking ban that drove 100’s of bars to shut down. Spent billions on ethanol and trains, land grabs, seat belt laws,collected baby dna and stored it, was in the tank with big education. more later.


35 posted on 05/23/2011 9:41:47 AM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Signalman

Tim or any other Republican wanting to take center stage will find out what Sarah knows. The media will leave no stone unturned in an effort to destroy them.


36 posted on 05/23/2011 9:41:51 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Signalman

But but but Mika declared Huntsman the republican candidate.

Fer shur!!


37 posted on 05/23/2011 9:41:58 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA, DO YOU HEAR ME NOW........... '67 BORDERS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN)
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To: Signalman
Pawlenty barely won both of his gubernatorial races; in fact he would have lost his 2nd one had it not been for the Green Party candidate. Palin, by contrast, took out a popular incumbent GOP Governor and a Dem ex-Govenor, in a year where Republicans lost seats.

Pawlenty backtracked from cap-and-trade AFTER he began contemplating a presidential run. He still supported it as recently as 2009.

Experience in terms of length of time spent in office doesn't mean squat. You need a dynamic, fiery candidate who can beat Obama. That is the X factor. No conservative is going to get out there and bust their @ss for Pawlenty when they hear him promising not to offend Obama or bring up his record, and talk about reaching out to Democrats and crap.

38 posted on 05/23/2011 9:43:24 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Signalman

Let me clue you in on how presidential politics works.

You are given a free pass right up until you get the nomination.

Sarah Palin had no “controversy” attached to her name prior to being named VP candidate. McCain was adored by the media. Once a threat to the Dem, the attacks happen.

But nice try.


39 posted on 05/23/2011 9:43:32 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Signalman

I think that quitting governorship will give her big problems. I really don’t believe she has “fire in the belly”. It is one thing to fly around giving speeches and book signings compared to daily responsibility of government office.


40 posted on 05/23/2011 9:43:39 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: Signalman

It would be better for us if he’d change his name to “Bob Dole”.

The results will be the same — four more year of Clint... er, sorry, 0Bama — but at least people could pronounce and spell the loser’s name. And we could get some more use out of those old buttons, bumper stickers, and tee shirts.


41 posted on 05/23/2011 9:43:46 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Signalman

In an election where we need an attack dog, are we really going to settle for a milquetoast like Pawlenty?


42 posted on 05/23/2011 9:43:59 AM PDT by kevkrom (Palin's detractors now resort to "nobody believes she can win because nobody believes she can win")
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To: Signalman

Four reasons your prediction is wrong:
1. T-Paw, just like Obama, is a career lawyer/politician
2. The cap-and trade reversal was not as smart as coming out in favor of cap-and-trade was dumb
3. See 1 and 2 above
4. This assumes the independent voters have no problem with voting for wishy-washy flip-floppers that generate as much excitement as watching grass grow.


43 posted on 05/23/2011 9:45:38 AM PDT by ngat
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To: Signalman
"Just say NO to RINOs"

So the crap and tax greenie from whacked-out Minnesota will be the last RINO standing? Fine! Let the RINOs choose him. Conservatives don't need to have any part of him. I'm tired of RINOs pushing their favorites. We have our conservatives to support. We should be using our time and effort helping them get exposure not helping RINOs.

44 posted on 05/23/2011 9:45:46 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Signalman

I like Tim Pawlenty a lot except for his stumble into Cap and Tax. As a governor, he has more executive experience than Barry ever did coming into office. He doesn’t have baggage like Newt (multiple divorces and affairs with subsequent wives while married to current wives as well as his misguided opinions on Paul Ryan’s budget plans), Romney (what more can you say than RomneyCare which is what 0bamaCare is modeled after and his devotion to it). I believe Governor Palin has much more charisma than Tim, is just as conservative and is better known. Pawlenty will have a long road to get all the fundraising necessary to combat Soros and all the foreign money chasing 0bama.

Good luck to whoever opposed 0bama in 2012 as Barry needs to be defeated.


45 posted on 05/23/2011 9:49:49 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: mel
I think that quitting governorship will give her big problems. I really don’t believe she has “fire in the belly”. It is one thing to fly around giving speeches and book signings compared to daily responsibility of government office.

I think you're smoking crack.

Palin is now more powerful out of office than she was Governor.

Quitting was the best thing that has ever happened to her and the conservative movement.

46 posted on 05/23/2011 9:50:06 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: JPG

He is not for cap and tax anymore. He has been upfront about the mistake from the get go. I don’t have any reason to think he will sign a cap and tax bill into law at this point. He isn’t my first choice at this point, but I would consider him “acceptable” and would gladly vote for him on the ballot with Zero. Other than environmental issues, he has pretty much been down the line conservative. The one issue where he was squishy he has come around on. His record is better than most. I don’t know much about him other than what I have read, but my friends in Minnesota have indicated he did a good job as governor. I am open to all arguements for and against Pawlenty as the vetting process moves forward. Simply calling him a RINO, which I have seen on here more than a few times, isn’t an argument.


47 posted on 05/23/2011 9:50:15 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Signalman

Herman Cain is chopped liver?


48 posted on 05/23/2011 9:51:46 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Waryone
"I'm tired of RINOs pushing their favorites. We have our conservatives to support. We should be using our time and effort helping them get exposure not helping RINOs."

You're correct. You should give your time and effort to who you support. Is there anything wrong with others doing the same thing for candidates they support?

49 posted on 05/23/2011 9:53:02 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (artemis_webb@yahoo.com --Lord knows how long before I'm banned so please say hello sometime.)
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To: freekitty

Try to picture TPaw in a debate with Oblahblah. A snooze fest that Bumbles will win. We need a candidate who will really take it to Barry and in no uncertain terms. Pawlenty will never do that.


50 posted on 05/23/2011 9:53:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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