Skip to comments.Circumcision Saved My Life
Posted on 05/25/2011 2:44:49 AM PDT by Rudder
It's a personal story, but let it also serve as a public health rebuttal to the proposed ban on male circumcision that will be on the San Francisco ballot this November.
San Francisco's ballot initiative would prohibit circumcision on all males under the age of 18. It would allow no religious exemptions, and it apparently gives no regard to the numerous studies demonstrating that male circumcision can substantially reduceby more than 50%the transmission of the HIV virus during sex.
"Communities, and especially women, may benefit much more from circumcision interventions than had previously been predicted, and these results provide an even greater imperative to increase scale-up of safe male circumcision services," concludes a study published this year in the peer-reviewed journal Sexually Transmitted Infections.
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Its not about facts or safety. Its about condemning the cultural norms.
If you look at all the studies on the subject you will see it does far more harm than good.
However, banning it is stupid. Those doing it for religious purposes should not (and cannot) be banned.
I've had to deal with far too many cases of botched circumcision...It's virtually life-destroying
Christopher J. Cold, MD; Michelle R. Storms, MD; and Robert S. Van Howe, MD
The commonly believed notion that circumcised men cannot develop penile cancer can result in delays in diagnosis. Recent medical literature has failed to confirm the protective effect of circumcision on penile neoplasms. Physicians need to be aware that men circumcised after 1 month of age may be at higher risk for penile cancer than those never circumcised.
Key Words. Penile neoplasms; circumcision; Bowen's disease.
(J Fam Pract 1997; 44:407-410.)
Cancer of the penis is an extremely rare malignancy with a predicted lifetime risk of 1 in 1437 men in the United States5 and 1 in 1694 in Denmark,6 representing 0.09% of all cancers and 0.16% of cancers in the male adult.5 The risk factors for penile cancer (Table) include genital warts,7,8 smoking,8,9 past sexually transmitted diseases,7,10 a sexual relationship outside marriage,7 multiple sexual partners,8 poor genital hygiene,7,8,11,12 phimosis,7-10,13 previous genital conditions (including urinary tract infection, genital warts, yeast infections, chlamydia, genital crabs, gonorrhea, genital herpes, syphilis, genital ulcers or sores),7 penile rash (which lasted longer than 1 month) or penile tear,8 chewing tobacco or areca nut, using snuff,9 and postnatal circumcision.7,8 Of these risk factors, a history of genital warts appears to be the most significant, leading experts to identify human papillomavirus (HPV) as the most common causative factor in penile cancer.14
Interestingly, genital warts are now more common in circumcised men,15 and HPV-associated lesions are equally prevalent in circumcised and intact men. Penile intraepithelial neoplasia, although found rarely, is slightly more common in men with foreskins.16 In one study of 11 men with carcinoma in situ of the penis, 10 had been circumcised as infants.17
The role of circumcision in preventing penile cancer has recently been called into question.19 In addition to several publications documenting cancer in circumcised men,19-26 a recent case control study of 110 men with penile cancer from the Pacific Northwest revealed that 41 (37%) had been circumcised.8 Relative to men circumcised at birth, the risk for penile cancer was 3.04 times as great among men who were never circumcised and 3.55 times as great among men who were circumcised after the neonatal period. The magnitude of risk for developing penile cancer was similar in smokers, but a history of multiple sex partners or genital warts were the strongest risk factors (Table). While neonatal circumcision may play a small role in preventing penile carcinoma, 20% of the patients in this study were circumcised at birth.8 When the control group was properly adjusted for age, there was no difference between the case group and control group in circumcision status.
Circumcision performed after the newborn period may increase the likelihood of penile neoplasms. In a Danish study, men with localized squamous cell carcinoma of the penis were 7.81 times as likely to have been circumcised after the newborn period as the general population.8,27 Maden et al8 demonstrated that men circumcised after the newborn period had a slightly higher risk when compared with those circumcised at birth.8
In an epidemiologic study with both retrospective and prospective cases from China, 157 men with penile neoplasms were identified. Circumcised men were markedly more likely to develop penile cancer than controls.7 The circumcision scar is often the focus of tumor formation.19 In Africa an uncontrolled study found that all of the circumcised men who developed penile cancer were circumcised late in adolescence or adulthood.28 Why the timing of circumcision is a significant factor is unclear.
For the circumcision status of the patient to be missing from the chart for the past 60 years is indefensible, but not uncommon. In a series of penile cancer patients from the Mayo Clinic, 15% did not have their circumcision status documented in the chart.14 Because circumcision is so prevalent in the United States, a circumcised penis is often described as "normal" in medical records, thus providing no useful information.
In spite of the body of evidence to the contrary, several circumcision advocates still profess that penile cancer is "virtually eliminated" by neonatal circumcision.1,28-31 Having been given access to respectable medical journals, their errant message has been adopted by many mainstream physicians.14 The persistence and prevalence of his myth may be detrimental, as evidenced by the 3-year delay in this patient between the time the penile lesion was noted and a biopsy taken.
Officials of the American Cancer Society do not recommend circumcision as a cancer preventative measure. (personal correspondence, H. Shingleton and C. W. Heath, Jr, to Peter Rappo, MD, Feb 16, 1996). Recognizing that circumcised men can acquire penile cancer are are at equal or higher risk for HPV-associated lesions is the first step in preventing penile cancer. Screening for, recognizing, and treating these lesions as they develop on the penis as is currently performed on the uterine cervix may be the most responsible approach to controlling both cervical and penile cancer; however the utility of such screening needs to be explored.16,32Persistent penile rashs are a highly significant risk factor for penile cancer8 and should not be ignored.
Because of the absence of a national tumor registry in the United States, most of the epidemiological studies have been performed outside the United States. When the incidence of penile cancers from different countries are compared, the biggest factor appears to be indoor plumbing.33 The downward trend in the incidence of penile cancer over the past 47 years in Denmark, where 1.6% of men are circumcised, has been partly attributed to better penile hygiene.6
Ironically, Denmark, in spite of its low circumcision rate, currently has a lower incidence of penile cancer than the United States, where 60% to 80% of men are circumcised.
Oh, and keep your laws off my body! (except for telling me what I can smoke, eat, drink...)
It is about keeping Muslims (the homosexual movements dangerous ally against JudeoChristian culture) out of San Francisco. They are dangerous to homosexuals who go after older prey.
If God didn’t want us to have foreskins then we wouldn’t be born with them.
Circumcision is not mentioned in the Koran. It is a requirement in the Torah for Jews.
If you look at all the studies on the subject you will see it does far more harm than good.
Circumcision can be an extremely traumatic experience. They did it to me at birth, and I couldn’t walk for a year.
Muslims are required to be circumcised at age 13 - even if it isn’t mentioned in the Qur’an.
So, apparently, the circumcision should be done before 1 month of age for there to be a clear health benefit.
Of course, that is just one study; my experience with studies such as that is that the data may or may not say anything, and the interpretations often reflect the biases of the researchers; i.e., other conclusions could be made with the same data. And the study results absolutely must be corroborated with other studies, and meta-analyses need to be done, etc.
I did a search of Pubmed (keywords: circumcision, circumcision risks, circumcision risks benefits) and couldn’t find anything on dangers of circumcision. One thing I found out is that the practice of circumcision is being introduced into Africa to try to reduce the incidence of AIDS. In Africa, unlike in the US, heterosexual AIDS is a huge problem.
Ugh, I should have clarified: for there to be a clear health benefit in preventing cancer. Other health benefits of circumcision do not depend on age!
Muslims have circumcision of males performed as well. The big thing is that having a sex-change operation is far worse than a child getting circumcised, and readily condoned by society. The latter has been done for thousands of years with very little problem. I personally would oppose this bill solely for it making little to no sense whatsoever. If you condone a man getting his privates mutilated and rearranged to resemble a woman, why should you care about some male child getting circumcised? Absolutely not at all.
That is a very good point. Of course liberals make no sense. Abort a baby but don’t touch an eagle egg.
If a Muslim becomes apostate enough to reject part of their scripture, then that might fly.
However, fundamentalist Islam as practiced for over a thousand years has both a greater and lessor set of scripture. The Koran and The Hadith.
Circumcision is in The Hadith.
If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see you through.
We are truly a country of stupid rules and control. Circumcision should be a parental option or a religious one period. On a side note, when Mom was a nurse, she remembered on young boy of 19 who had it done. From my understanding, he felt “different” being an athlete and looking “different”. As an adult, the procedure is painful. It is also far more complicated than what newborns go through.
“. . . and couldnt find anything on dangers of circumcision. “
You couldn’t find *anything*??????
100 infants die per year due to complications from circumcision. I was involved with a case in Dallas where an infant had his whole penis cut off and had to have a sex change operation. My friend’s son had to be hospitalized because of an infection due to an “aggressive” circumcision.
. . . but you couldn’t come up with a thing.
BTW, I’m opposed to the law. If parents want to pay extra to have their infants mutilated, it’s their business.
Why would the child need a sex change operation? That is the strangest thing I have ever heard. Couldn’t something be done cosmetically? Having his penis removed didn’t make him a girl.
I have no idea why they did it. I don’t think any male got picked for the jury. I wouldn’t want to have been that kid or his parents for any amount of money and the guys and most of the women wanted this doctor hung by his penis until dead before hearing anything about the case.
If it ain’t broke . . .
Sounds like some guys might have have lost their head in the process.
You said you were involved in the case. You said the baby HAD to have a sex change operation. Why did the baby HAVE to have a sex change? Couldn’t the penis have been reattached?
Are you know saying the parents opted to have the sex change operation?
No. The doctor used a laser and it couldn’t be reattached. The whole thing was removed with the laser. I don’t even know how the doctor managed to cut the whole thing off. My involvement was very brief (less than one day), but long enough to learn the background. I wasn’t selected for the jury.
Oh you were involved in the court case not the medical side. I understand. Thanks for clarification. It looks like they could still have done something cosmetic since cosmetically they can give a sex change operation to a female. Instead they decided to remove the rest of his male organs, create female organs and put the poor child on hormones? Not to mention going back to family and friends and saying oh yeah we really have a daughter instead of a son. That is strange indeed!
>>In Africa, unlike in the US, heterosexual AIDS is a huge problem.<<
Demand that men wash before and after engaging in sex. If women would refuse to permit anal/vaginal sex, most of these diseases would disappear on their own. Inserting fecal bacteria deep into your vagina is not be something I would consider to be healthy if I was a woman.
And if your dad had prostate cancer he would likely have been castrated as well as circumcised. Not my idea of a day at the beach, but he’d get a bulk rate discount on the surgery bill.
Check out the link, it will answer your questions, and
Google Dr. John Money as well, for more information.
I made it very clear that I looked in Pubmed, *the* medical research database in use today. Every scholarly article published within the realm of medical research is catalogued there. Plus, I specified the keywords I used to search. If you can provide specific keywords to use in Pubmed, which will return the kind of article that will support your claim, please do so.
I’m not sure exactly how to classify the website you linked—sociology, maybe—but it does *not* appear to be a medical research database.
Female circucision also?
Is this the case you were involved with? That is truly sad!
Really? What kind of question is that? Whether you agree with the practice or not, male circumcision has health benefits and does not deprive men of the desire or enjoyment of sex. Female circumcision does not have health benefits and is done purely to keep girls chaste. It ruins any enjoyment they have for sex and is barbaric.
Yes, one of many. It is a very sad case, indeed.
“Female circumcision also?”
Female circumcision prevents sexual pleasure in a female. Male circumcision does not. It is done for cleanliness, health reasons and religious reasons.
Female circumcision also?
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