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Really? ... 'Born-Again' Believers - Have Smaller Brains (Men vs. Women Brains?)
cbs47 ^ | 5-25-11 | cakid1

Posted on 05/25/2011 3:08:13 PM PDT by cakid1

Really? ...' Born-Again' believers - Have Smaller Brains

(Men vs. Women Brains?)

Well, there you have it.

So are Born Again believers dumb? Oh no, they're not saying that... directly. But that's how some will view a new study from Duke University Medical Center. According to the researchers (Their brain size is unknown) Protestants have bigger brains than born-again Christians.

The study, which examined the hippocampus region of the brain, found that Protestants who did not have a "born again" experience had significantly more gray matter than either those who reported a life-changing religious experience, Catholics, or unaffiliated older adults."

So, are men's brains bigger than women's brains?

The brain of the men is, on average, 100 grams (0.3 pounds) heavier than that of the women.


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KEYWORDS: bornagain; duke4racistbullshit; mensa187iq2libbs; whatsyouriqduke

1 posted on 05/25/2011 3:08:16 PM PDT by cakid1
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To: cakid1

The way I see it is this: There is no real scientific way to prove whether a person is a true believer in Christ. Just as there is no real scientific way to prove whether a person loves another person. Actions are not proof. So, I suppose the question to be asked is this: How did the researchers determine whether the person was a born-again Christian? Also, I know “born-again” Catholics, Lutherans, Baptists, non-denoms, etc. etc. It makes no sense.


2 posted on 05/25/2011 3:16:34 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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Catholics..doesn’t the Pope tell them what to think? The Muzzies may be in that same grouping, the local Imam and the Koran don’t allow then to think outside the box.


4 posted on 05/25/2011 3:19:25 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Paved Paradise

the only way to tell if someone is truly a Christian is if they have a fish on the back of their car.


5 posted on 05/25/2011 3:29:14 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Paved Paradise

Your brain changes, according to the stimuli that you give it, so it’s quite likely, if this test is reproducible, that it’s due to how evangelical Christians are taught to think.


6 posted on 05/25/2011 3:31:25 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: cakid1

and black babies are born with smaller brain weight and white women have larger birth canals to accomodate cracker babies with big heads

true but try getting a PHD with that one as your dissertation today..lol


7 posted on 05/25/2011 3:37:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (All the social libs who left last go around have crawled back...they can't help themselves)
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To: WellyP

So, you group Catholics and muzzies in the same box?


8 posted on 05/25/2011 3:42:10 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: cakid1
"'Born-Again' Believers - Have Smaller Brains...

Neanderthals' brains were as large as, and in some cases larger than, modern humans' brains... and so what?

There are other sources, but Wiki will work for now

9 posted on 05/25/2011 3:50:23 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: cakid1
Duke University, are they credible?

I will wait for peer review.

10 posted on 05/25/2011 3:50:47 PM PDT by mountainlion (A nation that forgets it's past has no future. WinstonChirchill)
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To: Jonty30
Your brain changes, according to the stimuli that you give it, so it’s quite likely, if this test is reproducible, that it’s due to how evangelical Christians are taught to think.

Control for time dependence of conversion, nutrition, age, co-existing disease, race, gender, socioeconomic status, or other religions much?

11 posted on 05/25/2011 3:51:04 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: cakid1
I won't be surprised when they report alcohol, drugs, lying, fornication, adultery, homosexuality, and all manner of sin makes brains larger.
12 posted on 05/25/2011 3:51:18 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: cakid1
Did they include psychologists and/or sociologists in the sample?

Cheers!

13 posted on 05/25/2011 3:52:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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"Protestants who did not have a "born again" experience had significantly more gray matter than either those who reported a life-changing religious experience,"

This was written and the study conducted by people who have no clue about Christianity. There is no such thing as a non-born again Christian" - ALL Christians are born again Christians as Jesus said one cannot be a Christian unless they are born again.

14 posted on 05/25/2011 3:53:09 PM PDT by circlecity (')
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To: cakid1

I posted the link to IronShrink.com. He’s had some interesting analysis of studies showing disparities in brains of conservatives versus liberals and I was curious to see if he would have time to look at this study.


15 posted on 05/25/2011 3:55:39 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: WellyP

No, the Pope doesn’t tell them what to think.

But somebody told YOU to think that.


16 posted on 05/25/2011 3:58:10 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: cakid1

Und de JOOOS haff big noses.

ACHTUNG!!! Step onto ze cattle car!

/s


17 posted on 05/25/2011 4:01:30 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: grey_whiskers

That also would have to be determined and accounted for. I wasn’t taking shots against Evangelicals, and all Christians are brothers, regardless of their faith and we will all be one faith in heaven.

If, after everything is accounted for, that it still holds true, my position is that it is not the faith itself that is at fault, but those who practice limitations in their faith or who teach that your faith must be limited in various ways.

All one has to do to counteract the possible effects of their faith is to go practice skills that exercise each part of the brain.

This story is a very small thing and incomplete as to what is happening. Not a big deal.


18 posted on 05/25/2011 4:11:11 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: cakid1

“The brain of the men is, on average, 100 grams (0.3 pounds) heavier than that of the women.”

This is the only sentence you need if some imbecile tries to call Christians stupid because of smaller brains.


19 posted on 05/25/2011 4:14:11 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Jonty30
If, after everything is accounted for, that it still holds true, my position is that it is not the faith itself that is at fault, but those who practice limitations in their faith or who teach that your faith must be limited in various ways.

That's why a control for age at conversion / apostasy (nd education) would be so important; and a parallel study on generosity /empathy given to intellectuals and to atheists. The unspoken hit on Christians isn't the obvious one that "Christians are dumb"; rather it is the message that "intelligenceTM is all that *really* matters."

Cheers!

20 posted on 05/25/2011 4:16:17 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: cakid1

So, do they have to stop calling us “fat heads”?


21 posted on 05/25/2011 4:16:24 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: Jonty30
If, after everything is accounted for, that it still holds true, my position is that it is not the faith itself that is at fault, but those who practice limitations in their faith or who teach that your faith must be limited in various ways.

That's why a control for age at conversion / apostasy (nd education) would be so important; and a parallel study on generosity /empathy given to intellectuals and to atheists. The unspoken hit on Christians isn't the obvious one that "Christians are dumb"; rather it is the message that "intelligenceTM is all that *really* matters."

Cheers!

22 posted on 05/25/2011 4:17:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: cakid1

So as a former “born again” christian I can expect my brain to be growing?


23 posted on 05/25/2011 4:22:02 PM PDT by tal hajus (ever the cynic)
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To: grey_whiskers

Uh, as to this article, a very high percentage of the black population consider themselves “born again” as do many Baptists. This would be likely called “racist” if it were done by a “conservative” group.


24 posted on 05/25/2011 4:43:47 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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Protestants? Born agains?

Jesus said unless we are all born again we won’t enter the kingdom of heaven. More garbage from the people without true knowledge.


25 posted on 05/25/2011 4:58:56 PM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: vpintheak
Atheist Andrew Carnegie went to Southern Schools like Vanderbilt if they broke their religious affiliations he would give them a million dollars.
26 posted on 05/25/2011 5:04:49 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321

The love of money is the root of many evils...


27 posted on 05/25/2011 5:16:29 PM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: cakid1

Gee sounds like the whole Nazi experience in modern medicine yet again.


28 posted on 05/25/2011 8:25:30 PM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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To: Paved Paradise

Good point Paved Paradise..


29 posted on 05/25/2011 8:28:17 PM PDT by cakid1
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To: Paved Paradise

Good posting!

How does someone claiming to be a “born-again” cause a separation from all other Christian religious sects? Is a “born-again” a member of a new sect that differs from Methodist, Baptist, etc., or just someone who has reaffirmed his/her belief?

I’m not an active religious type, though raised Methodist, so I’m not trying to dis anyone with my comments. I’m just curious as to why “born-again” folks consider themselves to be different from people who are religious but not “born-again”. .....In my mind, that’s leaning toward the Jim Jones kool-aid type of thinking.


30 posted on 05/26/2011 4:05:58 AM PDT by octex
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...so...

...us pea brains won't be burning in hell one day...

...8-P...

31 posted on 05/26/2011 4:21:32 AM PDT by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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To: cakid1

Why would anyone do such a study? Why would anyone even think about doing such a study? Was this study funded by my tax dollars? Are these all rhetorical questions?


32 posted on 05/26/2011 4:40:16 AM PDT by Godebert
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