Skip to comments.Weekly Gardening Thread – 2011 (Vol. 20) May 27
Posted on 05/27/2011 5:16:22 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232
Good morning gardeners. I apologize to all Freepers for the flame skirmish that occurred on the thread last week. This thread is intended to give like minded Freepers a place to share their gardening experiences and knowledge - a respite from the everyday problems we all encounter without encountering more on a benign gardening thread. Please be civil to your fellow gardeners, Thank You.
Ok, back to gardening. Every one of my plants I started from seed are doing great! This includes two varieties of paste tomatoes and three varieties of winter squash and a few pepper plants. Unfortunately some of the beneficial flowers, I started in a small raised planter were raided by a digging Cashmere (Irish Setter) hiding her Milk Bones.
My garden received a nice drenching rain shower yesterday afternoon. It supplied a good soak for thirsty roots.
If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.
Weekly Gardening Thread
If you have garden seeds you can offer other FReepers for free, for a SASE, and/or in exchange for other seeds, please send me your info. (Private Message Mrs. Don-o) and I will add you to this list, which I will post on the garden thread from time to time. Please also Private Message me to be removed when you no longer have the seeds to offer. FReepo-seedoholics can contact each other by Private Message to arrange any transactions.
Remember that old seeds may have reduced germination. (Although Ive had great luck with them. And for free, you cant lose...) If possible, list year and variety.
I CAN OFFER a few of these seeds (say, 10) for free to anybody who wants to send me a SASE:
Basil (Genovese 2010)
Beans (Jackson Wonder Butterbean 2011)
Broccoli (Bonanza 2011) Chard (Bright Lights 2010)
Fennel (Florence 2011)
Kale (Redbor Hybrid 2010)
Squash (Acorn 2009 and I had really good germination with it, this year!)
Squash (Georgia Candy Roaster 2011.. a terrific winter squash!)
Tomato (Brandy Boy 2011)
Seeds for Fall
Anything (surprise me!)
I HAVE HEIRLOOM TOMATO SEEDS (FREEPER TDSCPA) from about 75 popular, open-pollinated heirloom varieties. Tell me via PM what varieties youre interested in, and if I have them I could send you a few seeds (10?) if you will send me a SASE.
Dont know what variety to grow? I can make suggestions, if you want to grow plants from seed. Contact Tdscpa
If anyone needs or wants okra seeds (says JustaDumbBlonde) please let me know. I saved a ridiculous amount in the fall of 2010. Two different varieties, Clemson and Jade, are both are heirloom variety so that you will be able to save seeds from your plants. Both are spineless and heavy producers. Jade is a bit darker green than Clemson and the pods are a bit shorter and fatter. Both are good for frying, soups, freezing, dehydrating or canning. Dont be shy, l have more than plenty to share! Tip for planting okra: soak your seeds for 24 hours before planting. Okra seeds are hard like peppercorns and soaking will assist in quicker germination. Contact JustaDumbBlonde
I have some black-seeded Simpson lettuce seeds and some Buttercrunch lettuce seeds if anyones interested. (says Oberon), And... anybody have any Gold Nugget yellow cherry tomato seeds? Im interested. Contact Oberon
I have about 100 Canna seeds that I would be glad to share (says Dacula), These plants are tropical and last up to the first frost. I live north of Atlanta and my cannas grow up to 6 feet and have beautiful flowers. I leave them in the ground over winter, but you can take the bulbs and over winter them. . In order to get the seeds to germinate, you have to lightly sand the outside of the seed and soak them overnight. Contact Dacula
Free Winter Squash or Stevia seeds or Heirloom Tomato/Pepper Seeds (says Black Agnes) The Patio Marconi seeds are container peppers that are sweet and good for salads, sandwiches or frying. Open pollinated if that interests you. Cilantro seeds too. Its good used fresh to detox heavy metals. Contact Black Agnes
I hope all of you will stop by.
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Good morning, gardening FReepers!! We finally had a day without rain. I had been waiting and waiting to paint the shed BEFORE planting the ten Knock Out Roses around it. Boy, did I have a lot of help! Who would have thought a five year old was such a good painting buddy. We will plant the bushes today and start on rototilling this weekend.
Good morning. It’s a beautiful sunny morning here on the lower end of DelMarVa. We broke 90 yesterday and I expect it will do so again today.
I broke out my Jerry Baker Tonics book and have started whipping up some of his critter control mixtures. It’s almost time for the Japanese beetles to show up and the ticks have been absolutely HORRID.
Much needed rain here to combat the high temps and dry air. All is going good in our plot. Tons of lettuce still thanks to the earlier cool weather, good showing of collard and chard. Peppers and tomatoes are putting out fruit. Only downside is the flea beetles are already targeting my eggplant.
trying to get the garden wrapped up here. One of my customers has said she would take my beds and the soil I mixed up. She’s coming on Monday for that. Then my wife and I pack up the car wednesday morning, shaking off the dust from our shoes at the Georgia/Florida line, and heading up to WI...conveniently, just in time to start gardening...:D
One project i want to try is planting a potato in a tire and then adding tires on top of the original (with dirt) until the stack is 5 or six feet tall. Also will need to build my tomato watering devices that i want to try out. Will prolly need to get some seedlings from somewhere up there as there wont be time to start them from seed.
Fortunately, my parents have 15 acres and not all of it is in use for pasture and lawn and whatnot.
Hi Gardening freepers, I definitely need some advice.
I planted perennials (day lillies, black eyed susans, button flowers), they are very small (I hope they grow!).
How much water do I give them at the start? Every day? Every other day?
Also, I should mulch them, yes?
Your guidence will be appreciated. I’m leaving for work now, but I’ll check back later.
My neighbor's garden has been very prolific this season. He has kept us in green onion and green tomatoes for about 3weeks or more, along with some potatos and green beans. Another neighbor said his yellow squash is nearing maturity along with many tomatos.
And thats the morning garden reports from Conroe Texas
When my daughter was that age she was my best painting buddy as well. Now, she’ll be 13 in July, she makes herself VERY scarce when she even hears mention of painting :)
Ah, a teen. Yes, she could completely mess up her nails, don’t you know? Or, someone may see HER helping you PAINT! How will she ever LIVE that down? I figured the painting job took at least 3X the amount of time but I enjoyed it. I know it won’t be long before she stops holding my hand, wants to spend more time with her friends etc... Why do they grow up?!!!!
Welcome to Wisconsin! All conservatives warmly received ... by other conservatives, that is. ;o)
Hello all...great thread...
Im a long time wanna be gardener...got my 10X10 behind the garage back in action this year.
I live outside of Houston. I planted 11 tomato plants in early March this year and was picking tomatoes by the end of April...earliest ever for me.
The spinach I planted was delicious. My squash and zucchini have been poor.
We havent had 2 rains since I planted, but 10x10 is easy to water by hose.
Thanks for the thread. I will stop by again.
The perennials that I plant needed water initially (a good soaking) and then I watered once a week if it didn’t rain. I didn’t mulch immediately since I found it hindered the initial growth. I did put some mulch down later after they had a good sprouting. Day Lillies are very vigorous and do well in my clay soil. In fact, I have to divide them every two years or they seem to want to take over. Black Eyed Susans (Maryland’s State Flower) is a great choice. We Marylanders joke that we chose that flower because it is a pretty weed. By that, I mean it does very well without a lot of fretting over. This has been my experiences but there are definitely other Garden FReepers who have tons more experience than me. Good luck!
It’s been raining steadily here since last night.
Almost everything is planted and coming up well. We’ve been eating lettuce, spinach and green onions and have harvested a couple of strawberries. We put up a second trellis to handle the pole beans and chinese long beans, and have one more raised bed box to build and fill. I’ll be planting my Roma tomatoes in that. Other than that, I have to find homes for extra tomato seedlings. I told myself I wouldn’t overdo it this year! Oh well!
LOL! Why indeed!
Earlier in the year she and her best offered to help me paint the kitchen.........the painting isn’t finished yet.
She attended her first “formal” dance last Friday.......and had a “date.”
Still praying for rain here. Temps are gonna be close to 100 degrees this afternoon.
As usual, I got the soaker hose running on my okra.
Green beans are really producing...tomatoes....and cukes. Squash has slowed down dramatically.
Her first formal dance and a DATE?! Okay, how much Malox did you have to take? The shopping trip for the dress alone would require several Margaritas that evening. My eleven year old daughter recently asked me when she would be allowed to date. My answer: when you’re married. Boy, did I get the eye rolls and gasps of disgust!!
Come back as often as you like and have some fun. The thread lasts all week until the new thread is posted on Friday morning.
Had a similar problem with Molly (Australian Shepherd). She is my son's dog, but she is with my wife and I most of the time. When I put out my strawberry plants in our new strawberry bed she dug up two of them. No damage because now they are really spreading and doing well.
Dogs don't sweat to keep cool, that is why they pant. But cool damp earth is something they really like. Hence her attraction to my strawberry bed.
When growing vegetable plants from seeds, how does one prevent them from becoming leggy (stringy)? My broccoly become very long and tall and sometimes fall over.
Black Eyed Susans ARE weeds...........I couldn’t get rid of the danged things even if I wanted to (I don’t)
I’m only 8 miles from the MD/VA line and I swear it’s a plot by MD to take over this piece of VA........
“... it’s a plot by MD to take over this piece of VA”
You found us out!! LOL! The Black Eyed Susans can even self spread with a good breeze. I like them but some gardeners don’t. To each his own, They do make a nice “rustic” type of bouquet and seem to last a long time in a vase. I don’t see the deer choosing them much either. Unlike my hostas... they become a salad buffet.
To be perfectly honest, the shopping expedition for her dress was actually very enjoyable..although one stop on the way home was for a case of beer :)
The “date” thing was so she had a boy to walk with during the Grand March, as opposed to doing it with 2 other girls. We know the boy, and he actually presented her with a corsage. It was so sweet. They received the loudest round of applause as they were announced and they made their way down the carpet. He has MD and walks with crutches and she absolutely towered over him. It was cute.
You need to keep a grow light or cheap florescent light over you seedlings and down close to the young seedling 3 to 4 inches above the leaves. This helps to keep them from getting leggy.
I don’t “do” flowers, so they’re fine by me. They’re not bothering anything and are rather pretty.
The other night we went out on the deck, it’s upstairs, after being alerted by the yung’un to come look at the deer in the back field which is the west side of the property. It was huge and just hanging out munching on whatever is out there.
We had a good rain here last night, and getting a bit more this morning too. Its a good thing. My rain barrels needed refilling.
STILL, hoping to get my hands on a 275 gallon water tote/tank this weekend. Then I can finally get the gravity fed drip irrigation system up and running.
Otherwise, with only one or two exceptions, all plants are looking great. 5 varieties of tomatoes, 3 varieties of hot peppers, 3 varieties of sweet peppers, 8 varieties of cucumbers, tomatilloes, watermelon, sweet potatoes and purple majesty potatoes.
What great pix!!!!
Yes, mine loves the power tools as well.
Good Morning RD and All!
Brought the new (if you can call a 1958 new!) Allis Chalmer WD tractor to the Gulch this week... I’m stoked! Blew out the sidewall on the rear tire the first day, and OMG! New tractor tires are in the $400 range!
Found a good used one at a tractor recycle shop on the rim for a third of that so am good to go this weekend to power rototill the acre or so we are using this year. Thought I was back in a war zone when that tire blew! KAWHAMMO!
Temps are still getting down to low thirties at night (N. Mn) so still too early to plant... but the seedlings are looking good in the peat pots in the warming room!
Hey folks, have a Great Memorial Day weekend and may your gardens flourish!
What an absolutely beautiful young lady. You are very smart to teach her the essentials. I wasn’t taught any sort of maintenance stuff and I flounder around trying my best. Sometimes I do well and sometimes.... uh, less than well. She will keep those skills her whole life. Good job!
After the seedlings have come up a bit, you can direct a gentle breeze from a fan towards them. That will help as well. Air circulation is good anyway.
Couldn’t figure the sander thing. Nobody likes to sand! She liked it because it did the work for her! By the time of these pictures, helping was begining to NOT be so cool! I still have the shelves and other things that she helped on and painted with me. ...the good ole days.
Your daughter is a gem. I know a lot of girls analyze each and every event to a T. Some won’t be seen with someone less than “the most popular guy in the school”. Kudos to her and you. The Grand March story is absolutely precious. I hope you took a ton of pictures!
We have a momma deer and her baby sleep in the backyard (under the pine trees) each night. Living in a crowded suburb, I actually get a kick out of it. Our neighbors are pretty strange about the entire thing. Every plant has netting over it. EVERY PLANT. At some point, I think you just have to relax a bit but that’s me.
We had one inch hail here yesterday and I had just planted most of my stuff the day before.
Fortunately, it only took out a couple pepper plants and a couple tomato plants.
We have more severe weather on tap for the rest of today but I have most of my stuff covered for now. The best thing I’ve found to use is old laundry baskets with the top where the broken handles are, cut off. I put them upside down over the plants and they keep off the hail and keep out the hungry critters, which are a problem in the spring when they’re looking for tender young plants to munch on.
Will be picking beans and peas today. Been eating squash, leavy greens, and tomatoes. Going to have to cut back on the tomato plants next year as they’re taking over and need to be more precise, like down to the inch, in their spacing in this small garden. Well, new garden plot so it’s a test year.
Some colorful creature is eating up the cabbage and broccoli so have been inspecting the leaves and squishing the little buggers.
I have a friend and he plants a lot in tires, and yes, they are quite tall. He paints the tires white. When I try it again, I’m using tractor and truck tires, paint them white and see what happens to the plants.
We're on the verge of Stage 2 water rationing. Drip irrigation is still permitted but only in the early morning and mid evening. Hand watering is permitted anytime.
My supposedly disease resistant hybrid tomatoes (Celebrity, BHN-444, Tycoon) have caught something. Leaves turning brown and shriveling up. Since we're having 100 degree days, I'll doubt I'll get more fruit or see the plants revive. Once the fruit shows a blush, I'll pick them and pull up the plants. Steve Smith, one of our local television weather guys, showed off some of his Tycoons during a broadcast. He definitely needs to share some his gardening techniques! The tomatoes looked GOOD. My heirlooms are still thriving.
But, I'm already looking forward to the Fall. Next week I'll start my tomato seeds for transplanting in mid-July. Our average first day of frost hits around 15 November. I'm going to ignore the recommended hybrid varieties. Instead, I'll be planting 3 or 4 each: Virginia Sweets (80 days), Jetsetter VFFNTA Hybrid (64 days), First Prize VFFNT Hybrid (75 days), BHN 640 VFFF Hybrid (75 days), and Grandeur Hybrid (70 days).
The best performers in my little garden this Spring are the Baby Cucina cucumbers. Even at nearly six dollars for ten seeds, the plants have produced more slender 3-4 inch cukes than we can possibly eat. And, they're still producing! Though not anywhere near as productive as the Cucinas, I'm very impressed with the Suyo Long cucumbers. Last two I picked were 24 inches long and maybe two inches in diameter at their widest. Cooked up one in my fabulous sweet and sour pork!
Gotta go string up my two bean towers. The pole beans wanna climb!
While the painting doesn't really interest our anymore, she's still big on helping daddy when he's working on the car or truck or lawn mower --- and she's getting really good at swinging a machete!!!
Oh, and she's really great with me in the kitchen, she's becoming almost as good as I am when it comes to crepes and she makes awesome biscuits without any help from anyone. I can't make biscuits as well as she does.
It’s been a week of nasty weather here in Central Missouri, but nothing compared to what’s been going on all around us.
My tomato plants are really suffering from all of the water and cool temps. Some are dead and it’s starting to look like I may lose a good third of them.
On the bright side, my pingtung long eggplant seeds have started to germinate. I’d just about given up on those. Hot peppers are also starting to peek out of the soil.
At least that’s the way things looked on Tuesday. I’ve been in Kansas City on business since and there’s been a lot of wind and rain since. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit to find everything dead when I get home.
My point here is: Its amazing what they can do if they have very limited TV and video games access.
I sure hope that is not the case!
why does he paint them white?
You and me both. Every year I tell myself that it’s not worth it to set out tomato plants before Memorial Day, and every year the beautiful weather comes late in April and I set them out the first week of May hoping for the best.
Two out three years I wind up replanting at least some of them.
Maybe one of these days I’ll learn. LOL
“You need to keep a grow light or cheap florescent light over you seedlings and down close to the young seedling 3 to 4 inches above the leaves. This helps to keep them from getting leggy.”
Agreed. But I think it’s worth it to buy a grow light bulb, IMO. The proper light spectrum makes a difference in the growth and health of the seedlings, in my experience.
High-intensity fluorescents are even better, but pricey. I used some daylight-spectrum high-intensity fluorescent lights for my seedlings one year. (I “repurposed” the lights temporarily from an aquarium.) They were the stockiest, healthiest seedlings I’ve ever grown. I don’t have those lights any more or I’d do it again!
In all honesty, that boy is one of “the most popular guys” in the school, and definitely in the 7th grade. That tells me a lot about the caliber of many of these kids. He’s an absolutely awesome kid who never complains and considers his “disability” as more of an annoyance than a hindrance.
Of course we took pictures........unfortunately hubby has yet to figure out how to email them from his phone, so I haven’t uploaded them to photobucket -— but I will.
YIKES -— your neighbors sound a bit uptight alright. I live out in the country and I don’t bother with netting anything but my one fruit tree -— but that’s because of bugs and birds, not deer.
I may be wrong, but I think if you connect hubbies phone to the computer by wire and load the pictures to the computer that way, you will have better picture. That is how I move pictures from my phone because I don’t have internet on my phone.
I am thinking that you would move the picture in its full size, rather than a reduced size picture through email. If this is right, it would give you the option of using the full size picture to print or crop or reduce or any other option in the future. But I am no geek and have been wrong before.
I’m heading outdoors to try to get my boxes prepared. We’ve had nothing but cold rain and storms, but today is pretty. My husband’s hospitalization and doctors’ visits (he’s doing great) used up all the time I would have spent starting seedlings indoors, so all my plants are purchased this year.
I have 16 various tomatoes (trying to make the harvest last as long as possible), 4 sweet basil, 2 parsley, 1 rosemary, and something else. In addition I have 2 zucchini, 2 acorn squash, 2 baby watermelon, and a couple of other veggies. I’ll start peas, lettuce, etc. by seed. Also, I have last year’s potatoes that have gone to seed that I’ll plant again.