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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2011 (Vol. 20) May 27
Free Republic | 5-21-2011 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 05/27/2011 5:16:22 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

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To: tubebender
You have my hopes and prayers that the weather improves!

Yes, almost everything is irrigated. We water by two methods; pivot systems and polypipe, both are utilizing water from wells. The pivots are driven by diesel engine and the polypipe is tied to connector coming from a submersible pump.Here are some photos we've taken in the past couple of weeks. For some perspective, this particular pivot is 1/2 mile long.

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201 posted on 06/02/2011 12:00:35 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: who knows what evil?

I meant to ping you to #201 ... polypipe being used in the field.


202 posted on 06/02/2011 12:01:49 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; tubebender; greeneyes; Red_Devil 232

I’m going to ask a dumb question that perhaps one of you could answer. Having grown up in CA in the great Central Valley California Irrigation District I am familiar with farming by irrigation. We had to study this stuff in school — even in the city — and my grandmother still had a “ranch” which she operated with an uncle where we would visit when I was a child.

All my life I have understood the philosophy of capturing rain water in reservoirs during the rainy season and releasing it during the dry season.

Why has the midwest and the south never adopted a program like this? When I watch the dreadful floods, and all that water going the wrong places, I want to see it captured and aimed toward those districts that really need it.

Since the Mississippi and the Missouri Rivers seem to be the bad guys, why couldn’t there be dug a series of reservoirs the length of the river where the floods could be diverted and then released when the farmers were siuffering from drought? Is the elevation wrong? Is there some nosy Sierra Club group agitating for Wild Rivers (dumb idea, IMHO)? Do the folks in the Delta really need all that silt?

Considering how much money all those floods cost every year, I should think a program like that would be bought and paid for in 25-50 years.


203 posted on 06/02/2011 1:23:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Most of the Great Valleys of Calif are Deserts with the bulk of the moisture falling in the mountains mostly snow in the winter months. I remember a couple of floods in Fresno county when the snow melted too fast. I also remember the building of the dams on the San Joaquin and the Kings rivers for flood control and irrigation and many of the rivers north of Sacramento are damed with most of that water being hijacked for the cities to the south and the “Delta Smelt” and Salmon.

As far as the Corn Belt goes I always thought they got enough summer rain plus they have or had a mighty underground Aquifer to pump from but please don’t quote me on any of this as I haven’t had my first glass of wine...


204 posted on 06/02/2011 3:23:45 PM PDT by tubebender (Help! I've fallen, and I can't reach my wine!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; afraidfortherepublic

Now that’s a big sand box! I can get a handle around the Polypipe but the pivots fascinate me and when we travel through real farm county I have been known to stop and stare at them. The cotton farmers use row siphons from a lateral ditch. My little sister and her husband flood irrigate their Thompson Seedless grapes from ditch water or a well south of FResno.


205 posted on 06/02/2011 3:35:45 PM PDT by tubebender (Help! I've fallen, and I can't reach my wine!)
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To: tubebender; All

It Is Warming Up!

Meridian, Ms

Heat advisory in effect

At 5 PM...mostly clear. Temperature around 100. East winds around 8 mph.

At 6 PM...partly cloudy. Isolated showers and thunderstorms. Temperature around 96. East winds around 8 mph.

At 7 PM...partly cloudy. Isolated showers and thunderstorms. Temperature around 91. East winds around 6 mph.

At 8 PM...partly cloudy. Isolated showers and thunderstorms. Temperature around 87. East winds around 5 mph.

At 9 PM...partly cloudy. Isolated showers and thunderstorms. Temperature around 83. Light winds.

At 10 PM...partly cloudy. Isolated showers and thunderstorms. Temperature around 79. Light winds.

206 posted on 06/02/2011 3:46:03 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Do you fertilize through the pivot system?


207 posted on 06/02/2011 3:55:03 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Look Red, if you would just return to the negotiating table I'm sure we could work something out that would benefit both of us...
208 posted on 06/02/2011 4:06:40 PM PDT by tubebender (Help! I've fallen, and I can't reach my wine!)
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To: tubebender

How about I give you 25 degrees when we are at or over 100 and 20 when we are in the 90s.


209 posted on 06/02/2011 4:22:57 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Is there some kind of grommet or device inserted where the holes are punched in the polypipe?


210 posted on 06/02/2011 4:27:56 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Please sign in triplicate, have it notarized and send it to me by SledNext. Time is of the essence...


211 posted on 06/02/2011 4:29:37 PM PDT by tubebender (Help! I've fallen, and I can't reach my wine!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

No fert through the pivot. Corn and cotton are fertilized by knifing liquid nitrogen (and sometimes amendments like zinc), into the beds right along side of the plants — this is done with a rig that attaches to a tractor. Corn is also fertilized at first with a starter solution that is put in the seed furrow by the planter. We also occasionally fly pelleted fert on corn with an airplane. There have been times when we applied foliar feed to the cotton with a spray rig.


212 posted on 06/02/2011 4:32:00 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: tubebender

I will require 10 of yours when we are below 40. Next sled is Monday.


213 posted on 06/02/2011 4:41:42 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Sure seems like a liquid fert and pesticides through the pivot would save on fuel, time and aerial spraying.


214 posted on 06/02/2011 4:50:18 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

One of my short lived jobs as a teenager was flagging for a Crop duster applying something similar to DDT on cotton. I remember my dad applying DDT to his garden...


215 posted on 06/02/2011 4:53:28 PM PDT by tubebender (Help! I've fallen, and I can't reach my wine!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; afraidfortherepublic; Red_Devil 232; Diana in Wisconsin; Daisyjane69
This is being posted to raise the awareness of all you farmers and city gardeners of the latest reports concerning plants and their ability to feel pain. That's right, plants can feel pain!

A Vegetarian's Nightmare or A Dissertation on Plants Rights

Lyrics to "A Dissertation on Plants Rights" (pdf. file)

Eat Beef for breakfast lunch and dinner.

216 posted on 06/03/2011 10:41:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

You might want to post this on the new Weekly thread - Here -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2729180/posts


217 posted on 06/03/2011 10:45:57 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Interesting. We had never seen polypipe ‘in action’ before...last year’s tater experiment is this year’s windbreak...keeping the breeze out of the sweet potato patch.


218 posted on 06/05/2011 5:14:10 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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