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BRITISH FLEET ENGAGES BISMARCK, HIT IN CHASE BY AERIAL TORPEDO (5/27/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 5/27/41 | Robert P. Post, Craig Thompson, Harold Denny, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 05/27/2011 5:30:35 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
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1 posted on 05/27/2011 5:30:40 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
German Assault on Crete, May 1941
North Africa – Rommel’s First Offensive, 24 March-15 June 1941
Marcks’ Plan, August 5, 1940
Operation Barbarossa (Dir. 21), December 18, 1940
The Mediterranean Basin
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – The Imperial Powers, 1 September 1939
2 posted on 05/27/2011 5:31:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, The Grand Alliance

3 posted on 05/27/2011 5:33:10 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Sea Battle Starts – 2
The Conqueror of the Hood Torpedoed in New Battle with British Forces (photo) – 3
Push East Begins – 3-4
If Battle of Crete Raged on Long Island: A Comparison (map) – 3
The International Situation – 4
Nazis Say British Have Lost East Mediterranean Fleet – 5
Germans Advise U.S. Crete is a Lesson – 5
Roosevelt Warned at Anti-War Rally – 5
Big Phase of War Balanced in Crete – 6
Earl of Erroll Seen as a British Fascist – 6
The Aerial Torpedo – 7
Texts of Day’s Communiques on Fighting in Europe and Middle East – 8-9
Type of Bomber Ford Will Produce for U.S. Army – 9
4 posted on 05/27/2011 5:34:24 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/may41/f27may41.htm

British sink the Bismark

Tuesday, May 27, 1941 www.onwar.com

In the North Atlantic... Rodney and King George V come up and in a gun battle lasting less than two hours, the Bismark is reduced to a hulk. She is finished off with torpedoes from the cruisers Dorsetshire and Norfolk.

In the Mediterranean... On Crete, German forces take Canea and Suda. The Allied forces are now largely split up and moving in a disorganized manner in the direction of Sfakia to be evacuated. The evacuation is authorized by Wavell after he has consulted with London. The battleship Barham is damaged by air attack.

In North Africa... Rommel has reinforced his troops on the Egyptian border and his two panzer regiments retake Halfaya Pass in a converging attack. The Germans begin work to fortify their new position, especially by digging in their 88mm guns.

In Iraq... British forces begin to advance from their positions around Habbaniyah and Fallujah toward the capital, Baghdad.


5 posted on 05/27/2011 5:42:16 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/27.htm

May 27th, 1941

UNITED KINGDOM: The first catapult equipped merchantman, the steamship ‘Michael E’ puts to sea, with its complement of two Hurricanes. It is later sunk by torpedo.
FRANCE: Paris: The Vichy vice-premier, Admiral darlan, signs the “Paris Protocols”, giving Germany access to Syrian and Lebanese military facilities and naval bases at Tunis and Dakar.

GREECE: CRETE: The Allied commander General Freyberg receives orders to evacuate the island.

The town of Chania falls.

As HMS Barham covers a supply mission, she is damaged by air attack to the northwest of Alexandria. Canea and Suda fall to the Germans.

EGYPT: Rommel recaptures the Halfaya Pass from British troops who have held the Pass for the last two weeks. He sent in three battle groups. The Coldstream Guards lost 100 men.

U.S.A.: Washington: Roosevelt today warned America of Nazi designs on the Americas. He promised to extend US patrols in the Atlantic to protect the sea-lanes to Britain, and announced that he had proclaimed an “unlimited national emergency.” requiring that its military, naval, air and civilian defenses be put on the basis of readiness to repel any and all acts or threats of aggression directed toward any part of the Western Hemisphere. the US was rearming only for self-defence, he said.
(Jack McKillop)

He also declares that labour and capital must defer to government mediation processes “without stoppage of work.”

Joseph Grew, US Ambassador to Japan, writes Hull to advise that war was inevitable if the diplomatic talks between the US and Japan broke down. (Marc Small)

ATLANTIC OCEAN: The Bismarck is sunk by ships and planes of the Royal Navy with the loss of some 2300 lives and 110 survivors. The loss of this ship will be debated. The Germans maintain the scuttled, the British of course maintain the BISMARK was sunk. (Ray Cresswell)

King George V, Rodney and BISMARK all open fire around 08.45. Only the German ship is hit and by 10.15 she is a blazing wreck, after being pounded with 16-inch and 14-inch guns from ever-decreasing range. BISMARK still remained afloat thanks to her honeycomb pattern of watertight compartments which her designers claimed made her unsinkable. The big ships were running out of fuel and were ordered home. Heavy cruiser HMS Dorsetshire, having left convoy SL74 the previous day, fires torpedoes to finish her off, but the BISMARK’s captain has already ordered her to be scuttled. BISMARK sinks at 10.35 to the southwest of Ireland, the 2,200 men who died included Admiral Lutjens and her captain, Ernst Lindemann. HMS Norfolk is there at the end. The Dorsetshire and other British ships stood by to pick up survivors - but made off when told a U-boat was in the vicinity. 110 of the BISMARK’s crew survived.

HMCS St Clair (ex USS Williams) and HMS Mashona attacked by 5 German bombers, west of Galway Bay, Ireland. Mashona capsized and sunk, survivors picked up by St Clair. (Tom Carlson)

At 0101, the Colonial, dispersed from Convoy OB-318, was hit by one torpedo from U-107 and sank after a coup de grâce at 0146 about 200 miles WNW of Freetown. The master, the convoy commodore (Rear Admiral W.B. Mackenzie RN), 88 crewmembers, six naval staff members and four gunners were picked up by target ship (ex-battleship) HMS Centurion and landed at Freetown. (DS)


6 posted on 05/27/2011 5:44:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://worldwar2daybyday.blogspot.com/

Day 635 May 27, 1941

British battleships HMS King George V & HMS Rodney approach German battleship Bismarck from the Northwest and begin firing at 8.47 AM. Bismarck is an easy target, almost stationary & illuminated by the sun rising behind her. Loss of steering & a port list render her firing inaccurate. Bismarck is hit several times putting her guns out of action, without registering any hits on the British. King George V & Rodney plus heavy cruisers HMS Norfolk & HMS Dorsetshire close in, firing 2876 rounds including 719 14-inch & 16-inch shells. About 400 shells hit Bismarck, turning her into a burning hulk but she does not sink until the crew blow scuttling charges in the boiler rooms (she is also hit by torpedoes from HMS Dorsetshire). Bismarck sinks at 10.39 AM. Dorsetshire & destroyer HMS Maori begin rescue 110 survivors but then leave on a false sighting of a U-boat. German weather ship Sachsenwald picks up 5 survivors next day. In all, 2091 German sailors are killed.


7 posted on 05/27/2011 5:46:42 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Pivotal turn here...cant wait for next fews days seeing their reporting of what happened to the Bismarck...


8 posted on 05/27/2011 5:50:38 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I’m on the edge of my seat wondering whats going to happen to the Bismarck

lol


9 posted on 05/27/2011 5:55:13 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: abb; All

abb won’t be joining us this morning to update the day-by-day story of Bismarck vs. the Royal Navy (some lame excuse about work or something - nothing really important like bass fishing.) But he was kind enough to drop off a couple links to sites with the current state of research into the wrecks of the two main characters. If someone wants to check them out and post some juicy tidbits on this thread it would be appreciated. Or from the other sites that abb and others have linked to over the last several days. I would try but I have my own work-related issues to attend to.

Homer

http://www.kbismarck.com/wreck.html

http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/2001expedition/index.htm


10 posted on 05/27/2011 5:57:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Hanson Baldwin’s analysis of torpedo tactics & damage was detailed and (as it turns out) prophetic.

The Swordfish biplane had a very good war, and one of its high points was the hunt of the Bismarck.

Bismarck had already been reduced to 20 knots by damage to its reserve fuel supply during the Battle of the Denmark strait (where Hood was sunk). A successful torpedo strike on the 24th May led to another 4 knot reduction in speed.

The decisive torpedo hit was on the 26th, which jammed rudder and steering and made the Bismarck effectively unfightable. On the 27th of May: Rodney and King George V, along with heavy cruisers Norfolk and Dorsetshire sank the Bismarck.

An excellent blow-by-blow account of the full chase is available from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Bismarck

As Admiral Tovey recorded in his memoirs: “The Bismarck had put up a most gallant fight against impossible odds, worthy of the old days of the Imperial German Navy, and she went down with her colours flying”


11 posted on 05/27/2011 5:57:37 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I really appreciate you posting these articles. As much as I enjoy the headlines I find the prices for goods on the ads equally facilitating.


12 posted on 05/27/2011 5:59:15 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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Duh, spell check error, facilitating=fascinating.


13 posted on 05/27/2011 6:38:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

Facilitating works. The ads facilitate you in finding a nice little gay-as-a-picnic frock for $8.95 or 2 pounds of fancy chocolate candy for $1.39


14 posted on 05/27/2011 6:46:24 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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While BISMARCK wasn’t going anywhere, his guns were out of action, his crew was abandoning ship, and he was aflame from stem to stern, the British didn’t sink him. The crew scuttled the ship.


15 posted on 05/27/2011 6:52:37 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Yep. That’s the 2nd time in two days in these old papers where I’ve read “gay” being used as it should.


16 posted on 05/27/2011 6:55:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Bismarck withstood an incredible pounding without sinking.


17 posted on 05/27/2011 6:56:28 AM PDT by henkster (Every member of Congress must put the fate of the nation over their next re-election campaign)
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Yes, its internal compartmentalization made it very hard to sink.


18 posted on 05/27/2011 7:26:49 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
SINK THE BISMARCK ~ sung by Johnny Horton
19 posted on 05/27/2011 7:56:49 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: agere_contra

I think another reason was that Rodney closed to short range, and her shells were being fired into the ship more or less horizontally, so they didn’t poke holes in Bismarck below the water line. Vertical plunging fire from long range might have been more effective in sinking her, but was certainly less accurate.

Even so, he took an incredible pounding.


20 posted on 05/27/2011 8:10:57 AM PDT by henkster (Every member of Congress must put the fate of the nation over their next re-election campaign)
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