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'Killer Cucumber' Bug From Spain Hits Britain
Sky News ^ | May 27, 2011 | none stated

Posted on 05/27/2011 6:33:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Three people in Britain have been diagnosed with a lethal strain of E.Coli that has already killed five people in Germany.

Almost 300 people in northern Germany are in hospital and around 500 more are being tested for the infection.

Organic cucumbers from Spain are thought to be the source of the bacteria, but travellers to Germany are also being advised to avoid eating raw tomatoes and lettuce.

The Robert Koch Institute, Germany's national disease centre, said 60 cases had been reported in the last 24 hours alone, and infections have also been confirmed in Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cucumber; ecoli; killer; spain
Beware the "Organic cucumbers from Spain"

Organic? Does that mean it was grown in manure?

1 posted on 05/27/2011 6:33:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

We had problems here similarly, didn’t we? That’s what happens when you have illegal aliens, or whomever you legally import, treat your field like they would fields, and many other areas, of their home countries.


2 posted on 05/27/2011 6:36:42 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Texas Fossil

Organic?

Yeah, Organic contamination.


3 posted on 05/27/2011 6:37:53 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Texas Fossil

Didn’t Paris Hilton have a similar problem with
foreign cucumbers, or am I thinking of Madonna?


4 posted on 05/27/2011 6:39:33 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Of course, the Spanish newspapers deny that Spanish cucumbers are the source of E.coli, unless of course "they got contaminated while transported". It would be funny if people hadn't died!

BTW, this is a picture of a Spanish cucumber field, published today in El Pais. I had never seen having to reach up to pick a cucumber.


5 posted on 05/27/2011 6:41:56 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Texas Fossil
cucumbers are coated in wax or cellophane for preservation, this process preserves ALL bacteria, thus washing & rinsing in HOT soapy water with a veggie brush as to get in all the crevices, making sure ALL wax & foreign matter is removed is just plain common sense. ALL bacteria is natural to ANY dirt no matter how it is treated and thus the food needs special care when preparing it for consumption.

Great Big “DUH!”

6 posted on 05/27/2011 6:42:24 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

Great Big Duuuh!

Yep, it must be a slow day, this was on Drudge.


7 posted on 05/27/2011 6:48:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Former Fetus

These appear to be the “Armenian cucumber,” a long, ridged, thin-skinned variety that is supposedly burpless (for persons sensitive to cukes). Personally, I think it’s also flavorless...

Many of the pickers, particularly in El Ejido, are actually not Spaniards but come from various benighted and disease-ridden parts of the ME.

However, the contamination could have come from anywhere. Who knows?


8 posted on 05/27/2011 6:54:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: patlin

Okay but was the e-coli contamination systemic? It’s ok to wash the outside but if the contamination came up through the root system it won’t work.


9 posted on 05/27/2011 6:57:49 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: SkyDancer

E-coli does not generate through the root system & it does not bore into the food. If it is present, it is a surface issue. The only way for the bacteria to contaminate the inside of the fruit/verggie is during the cutting process via the cutting mechanism aka peeler/knife.


10 posted on 05/27/2011 7:01:57 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Former Fetus

The cucumbers are trellised, which is a much cleaner way to grow them.


11 posted on 05/27/2011 7:03:29 PM PDT by Josephat
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To: livius
I agree, they don't look like the cucumbers I used to eat, growing up in Spain!

According to El Pais some Dutch cucumbers have tested positive for E. coli, reinforcing the idea that the cotamination took place in transit.

Once again, when I was growing up in Spain, most of the farm labor came from Morocco and overall they were absolutely ignorant of the most basic hygiene. My grandad hired a family, provided them with housing, and a few months later we found out they stored their food in the bathroom (in the tub) and used the backyard as a latrine!

12 posted on 05/27/2011 7:12:15 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: SkyDancer
fyi...fresh produce is our livelihood. I NEVER buy fresh produce that has ANY damage that exposes the interior of the food & I ALWAYS thoroughly wash the food, even when it says pre-washed. I've seen the pre-washing process & believe you me, it IS NOT 100% sanitary. 30+ yrs & counting & we have never gotten sick from eating ANY produce from ANY field in ANY state that we haul out of because we ALWAYS make sure to wash it before eating. Including produce that has been rejected by the USDA inspectors. We're not stupid. They reject it, we're told to get rid of it so we take it home, prepare it properly & save money on our grocery budget. One year we got a group together & processed & froze an entire pallet of asparagus that the USDA inspectors for well known upper midwest grocery chain. I have dozens of stories just like that one that ours & our family & friends freezers were very happy to accommodate.
13 posted on 05/27/2011 7:13:52 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Josephat

I had never seen that! I can see the advantage, especially at the time of picking them. I live in SC and every summer I feel for the migrants who are bent over the rows of plants, picking cucumbers. I think it must be a relief when they stand up and carry the basket to the collecting trailer. I wonder how long I would be able to do it, before kneeling, almost crawling.


14 posted on 05/27/2011 7:16:41 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: patlin

When I’m home I never buy fruit or veggies from any country south of the border. I buy strictly home farmed local or know exactly where it came from. And then too, I’m with you on what you wrote.


15 posted on 05/27/2011 7:20:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: Former Fetus

Contamination does NOT take place in transit from the supplier to the store, it is done in the picking/packaging process. One small slip of the product into contaminated dirt or handled by contaminated hands exposes the entire lot it comes into contact with. So, if the product is picked and boxed at the same time, contamination is limited to the box. However, like tomatoes & many other veggies, they are picked, placed in temp bins or on conveyors that load the product in a bulk truck, then shipped to the packaging plant where it is crated/boxed for distribution.


16 posted on 05/27/2011 7:21:19 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

After further research on it you’re right. I stand corrected. It’s all surface contamination.


17 posted on 05/27/2011 7:23:06 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: patlin

I did not say that contamination took place in transit, I was just reporting what the Spanish newspapers say about it. Like I said, this finger pointing game would be funny if people weren’t sick and dying!


18 posted on 05/27/2011 7:33:04 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Texas Fossil
Yeah, but what about the tomatoes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfm3_BMinhg
19 posted on 05/27/2011 7:34:19 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: SkyDancer

I’m in the north, so I eat south of the border produce everyday. I especially like vine ripe tomatoes & green onions which we can only get in season for a very limited time up here.(yes, my garden is planted, can’t wait for mid-summer) Hubby likes to eat grapes going down the road. That south of the border thing is nothing more than political fear mongering. FYI...local doesn’t mean it has not been picked by illegal farmer worker immigrants. They are crawling everywhere up here, especially in MN & IA & the local markets are not what they used to be. One big corporate family with political ties has the monopoly on our local produce stands now. They have literally crushed the family farmer out of business other than the weekly tiny farmers market where it is mostly plants & home baked goods that is sold. The big farm corps start selling corn, etc before the its even in season here. We were not born yesterday. It’s not local product they are selling, but they make it look as if it is.


20 posted on 05/27/2011 7:34:31 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Former Fetus

People wouldn’t be dying if they used the brains & common sense God gave them!


21 posted on 05/27/2011 7:36:16 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: livius
...Many of the pickers...come from various benighted and disease-ridden parts of the ME...

Meaning they don't use toilet paper but wipe with their left hand. Then pick the crop. Yum.

22 posted on 05/27/2011 7:36:31 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Land of the free my @ss)
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Bring Out Your Dead

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23 posted on 05/27/2011 7:39:59 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 855 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: yup2394871293

ROFLMAO


24 posted on 05/27/2011 7:40:04 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

When I’m home my family and I shop at a local farmers market where we buy local produce in the summer months. For some reason (Freudian I guess) I shy away from stuff from say Ecuador or any SA country. I don’t know how what they fertilize with there. But then, local organic farmers use animal manure which in all probability contains e-coli. But we wash them pretty good.


25 posted on 05/27/2011 7:43:25 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: Texas Fossil

26 posted on 05/27/2011 7:50:34 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

hee hee hee


27 posted on 05/27/2011 7:55:29 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: SkyDancer

You shouldn’t be afraid to buy south of the border produce. The American SW is our largest market area for freight & thus we know the process it goes through before it enters the states. The majority of the produce that comes from south of the border is from US produce giants, not foreign entities. Thus the product is heavily regulated by the USDA prior to entering the US. Take it up with DC & the AG Dept as to why the south of the border produce fields are replacing the American SW fields. But do not blame the American companies for taking advantage of politically friendlier growing regions/countries. The central Cali valley in some areas is becoming a wasteland thanks to govt regulation. Well, that and the enviromentalists & animal rights activists whom they worship.


28 posted on 05/27/2011 7:56:40 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Texas Fossil; Red_Devil 232

FYI ping


29 posted on 05/27/2011 8:03:48 PM PDT by tubebender (Help! I've fallen, and I can't reach my wine!)
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To: patlin

Which is why I only eat veggies in season and from my own garden.


30 posted on 05/27/2011 8:05:10 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland (!@)
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To: patlin

I remember when it was reported that central Cal. was producing almost 80% of the veggies for the US.


31 posted on 05/27/2011 8:08:22 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: SkyDancer
I was out there in late Jan, early Feb this year & was appalled at what I saw happening. Perfectly good tree groves & fields plucked &/or tilled under. In some fields the trees were still laying there with produce hanging off of them. It must have torn the farmers heart out to have to do that. We have a good friend there who has pulled over 1/2 of his orange grove due to lack of water & govt regulation. Since he is very close to retirement & his son is not interested, I'm sure it won't be long before the rest of his crop follows suit. Right now, all he is keeping going is what the Mennonite Colonies here in SD needs annually.
32 posted on 05/27/2011 8:18:08 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
One easy guarantee of cleanliness is a several minute soak in food grade H2O2. It needs to be a 50% diluted wash of H2O2. (Just don't get that stuff undiluted on your skin.. it hurts!)

But it will get rid of all bacteria. Oh, and once the soak is done and the food is rinsed off, it pretty much is gone with NO harmful effects if ingested. What manufactured chemical can claim that?

None.
33 posted on 05/27/2011 10:45:50 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: JSteff

Thanks for the peroxide tip :)


34 posted on 05/27/2011 10:54:42 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: patlin

was out there in late Jan, early Feb this year & was appalled at what I saw happening. Perfectly good tree groves & fields plucked &/or tilled under. In some fields the trees were still laying there with produce hanging off of them. It must have torn the farmers heart out to have to do that. We have a good friend there who has pulled over 1/2 of his orange grove due to lack of water & govt regulation. Since he is very close to retirement & his son is not interested, I’m sure it won’t be long before the rest of his crop follows suit. Right now, all he is keeping going is what the Mennonite Colonies here in SD needs annually.


Yes it is an EPA travesty what is going on in Cali farm corridor. The Endangered Species Act needs to be repealed!


35 posted on 05/27/2011 10:57:29 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: JSteff
H2O2

H2O2, is hydrogen peroxide. Food grade unlike the H2O2 sold at local drug stores does not have the "stabilizers" that ARE poisonous and can leave chemicals on the food. Do not use "drug store" H2O2 on food!

Oh and it is great for praying on bath tubs, sinks, "toys", etc. When the bubbling and foaming is done, so is the bacteria.
36 posted on 05/27/2011 11:01:16 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: SkyDancer

Good move, as some of Mexico’s produce is grown in human feces, as it’s the only fertilizer they have.


37 posted on 05/27/2011 11:11:53 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: JoeProBono

38 posted on 05/27/2011 11:14:12 PM PDT by Krankor (that caused the place to be shut down and have the police called.)
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To: bushwon
Cut it like 50% and put in a spray bottle. See my follow up for suggestions and usage. I just put about 1 oz in the sink to rinse berries and fruit we pick in the woods etc, too. When the floating ones get foam that means they really did need it.

Amazing how dirty food you get in grocery stores is. Oh, and just a tip/warning if you use it on meat it will chemically "cook" and brown the meat. But it IS NOT truly cooked and still needs to be cooked.

Also we take a small spray opaque plastic bottle (seal VERY tight, but do not subject to heat.. after all H2O2 is a main component of most rocket fuel!) with you to spray in hotel room sinks, toilets etc. Surprising how foamy hotel sinks, spigots, toilet handles are. Meaning they are germie! But when you spray again and no foam that means germs are gone.

Do NOT get directly on clothes or fabrics. It will burn and destroy most. including many man made fabrics if not cut right. Germs are gone but so is the fabric. But I use a couple of onces in a germy load of clothes as a pre-soak. Pour in soak water, not directly on clothes.

Store in a opaque bottle or in refridge to keep out of sunlight. Sunlight destroys and lessens the strength of O2H2.
39 posted on 05/27/2011 11:42:57 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: Former Fetus
few months later we found out they stored their food in the bathroom (in the tub) and used the backyard as a latrine!

Urp! I'm sure horrendous hygiene is still the case with the Moroccan laborers.

40 posted on 05/28/2011 4:11:07 AM PDT by livius
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To: patlin
The central Cali valley in some areas is becoming a wasteland thanks to govt regulation

This is very true. I was there last year and I was shocked by how devastated and barren it is becoming.The little towns there are also dying.

For some reason, I get the impression that the US govt wants to punish the growers there, but I'm not sure exactly why. Perhaps it's the environmentalists' hatred of the dread "agribusiness"?

41 posted on 05/28/2011 4:14:28 AM PDT by livius
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To: JSteff

Thanks for your comments. Where do you find food-grade peroxide?


42 posted on 05/28/2011 6:05:21 AM PDT by Former Fetus
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