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Freerepublic ^ | 05/31/2011 | Oshkalaboomboom

Posted on 05/31/2011 4:04:02 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

My wife would like to get Lasik surgery to correct her farsightedness. I haven't really paid much attention to it since it first became common but back then I remember reading that, while it corrected your vision to 20/20 in the near term, over time your vision could actually end up being worse than it would have been if you didn't get it corrected in the first place and just aged naturally. Have they improved the technology to the point where that is no longer a problem?

I have read up on the procedure but most of the sites are run by people with an agenda (selling laser vision correction) so I would rather hear from some unbiased Freepers. Thanks.


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1 posted on 05/31/2011 4:04:07 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Aging makes you more nearsighted allegedly. Maybe if she lives long enough it will cancel out.


2 posted on 05/31/2011 4:06:44 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I am deeply distrustful of this operation. I am afraid we will wake up one day and have a slew of dang near blind people to deal with.

But I know a lot of people who swear by it.

I will keep my glasses, but that is because I don’t like anyone messing with my eyes.

I am sure there will be a lot of folk to hop on and give you thumbs up.

As with all important things in life, it is a risk/reward where only you can evaluate the calculated result.


3 posted on 05/31/2011 4:07:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

My wife and I both had LASIK about 5 years ago and it was one of the best things we ever did! No regrets! In fact, it was like a miracle going from needing contacts and glasses to being able to see!

The only side effects are dry eyes and sometimes night sensitivity to headlights but the effects are very minor.

This guy is the best of the best:

David M. Schneider M.D.
http://www.midwesteyecenter.com/lasik-surgeon-cincinnati-ohio/lasik-eye-surgeon-cincinnati-ohio.html


4 posted on 05/31/2011 4:08:06 PM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Karl Childers (Sling Blade 1996))
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I just had it although I already am into biofocals. Done at the end of March and I love being free of glasses. I do need reading glasses but these are purchased at the drugstore and I figure in about four years, the LASIK will have equaled the cost of new glasses.


5 posted on 05/31/2011 4:09:03 PM PDT by Jemian (One cannot have a media frenzy unless it is started by ... THE MEDIA!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I would like to add to your question and I hope you get responses. What can be done for the need for reading glasses? Is that the same as farsightedness? Maybe it’s the same question as your wife’s. I think the last time I went to the eye doctor they said that Lasic wasn’t for that problem yet.


6 posted on 05/31/2011 4:09:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

My eyesight was corrected from 450/20 to 15/20.


7 posted on 05/31/2011 4:09:46 PM PDT by Jemian (One cannot have a media frenzy unless it is started by ... THE MEDIA!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Pick a surgeon who has done quite a few, at least 500 or more. I had it done about 8 years ago. I was a -11 diopters of near sightness. For several years I had 20/20
without glasses. I am now -1 in one eye and -2 in the other. Best thing (expect for getting married and becoming a dad) I did for myself. I need to wear glasses while driving at night, but my vision is much improved.


8 posted on 05/31/2011 4:10:18 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I, unfortunately, cannot have the procedure. My cornea is too thin.


9 posted on 05/31/2011 4:11:17 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Had it and really really love it. Don’t go bargain shopping and research the doctors. In my area the ones who do the most advertising have the worst record.

My only change would be to get the ‘lifetime corrections’, as my eyes are changing a little and I’ll probably need it again.


10 posted on 05/31/2011 4:12:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: freedumb2003

This surgery has been done for over 30 years. They do eye surgery all the time? The only people that talk bad about it are those who sell eyeglasses.


11 posted on 05/31/2011 4:13:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Maine Mariner

So 8 years later and no problems?


12 posted on 05/31/2011 4:14:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Yaelle

They correct one eye for near viewing and one for far viewing. I didn’t have that but they usually recommend it for folks near 40.


13 posted on 05/31/2011 4:15:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kidd
I, unfortunately, cannot have the procedure. My cornea is too thin.

Same here. Though PRK is still an option. Just a longer recovery time and more discomfort during recovery. Results should be as good though.
14 posted on 05/31/2011 4:15:34 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (I will never ask permission to do what's right.)
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To: Jemian

Whoa!!!


15 posted on 05/31/2011 4:17:35 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("If I ever kill you, you'll be awake. You'll be facing me, and you'll be armed. " Mal Reynolds)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

There must be absolutely no signs of Cataract Symptoms. If there is any reputable physician would not perform Lasik surgery. Also, if your wife is scheduled for surgery make absolutely certain she is the 1st of the day, definitely not scheduled for after lunch. The biggest issue is post surgery infection. If you let a surgeon go out to lunch, go to the bathroom, etc, the risk of infection increases exponentially. Good luck. In a year or 2 I will be having cataract surgery because Lasik is not an option for me.


16 posted on 05/31/2011 4:18:58 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Less Than Pro Lasik Link

I don't think these people are selling glasses either.

17 posted on 05/31/2011 4:20:47 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: kidd

There is a procedure called “intralase” whereby a polymer lense is surgically inserted under the cornea. Dr. Sara Hays in Birmingham, AL does this for those with thin corneas. It doesn’t change the shape of your eye at all.


18 posted on 05/31/2011 4:20:47 PM PDT by Jemian (One cannot have a media frenzy unless it is started by ... THE MEDIA!)
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To: GeronL

Some nearsightness has come back, but when I had it done, I was very nearsighted-20/1000 in each eye. I was at the tail end of nearsightness-any more and I would not have been a candidate.


19 posted on 05/31/2011 4:24:23 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Never, ever use an eye doctor that accepts coupons.


20 posted on 05/31/2011 4:24:41 PM PDT by petercooper (2012 - Purge the RINO's.)
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To: petercooper
Thank you Mr. McGoo.
21 posted on 05/31/2011 4:27:12 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: driftdiver

That’s a crock. I saw people testify for Congress; one man literally broke down. The dryness can be excruciating and debilitating - imagine always feeling like sand or grit is always in your eye EVEN when you try to sleep, but you can’t sleep? There is a RISK with this surgery - as with all surgeries - one must weigh benefit vs. risk. To me, the risk was NEVER worth it. EVER. To those more vain, perhaps the risk was not so great. Hindsight (no pun intended) is not available.


22 posted on 05/31/2011 4:32:26 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

My opthamologist said that they are starting to suspect that Lasix interferes with later cataract surgery.

I’d research that.


23 posted on 05/31/2011 4:33:45 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I haven’t had it done, but the 4 or 5 people that I have known that did have it, all are wearing glasses again. I will keep my glasses till they pry them off my cold dead face.


24 posted on 05/31/2011 4:34:54 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15:1-4 Believe it!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I recommend Dr. Antonio Méndez He’s been doing LASIK longer than any US surgeon. He treated Stevie Nicks if that means anything to you.

Had mind done years and years (maybe decades?) ago. Totally satisfied, although with age I now need bifocals.

Clinica de Oftalmología
Tijuana
Paseo de los Héroes #9365
C.P. 22320 Mexico
Tel: (6) 684.9537
Fax: (6) 684.9538
US phone (619) 421-2348 (San Diego)


25 posted on 05/31/2011 4:36:03 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 859 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Your eyes change throughout your life. Most people experience presbyopia, hardening of the lens of the eye. The eye itself changes shape. If you get Lasik at, say 20, you may not need glasses for 10 years. But, you’ll still probably need them. When you get it and you already have both distance and close up issues, your eyes will be focused at one or the other; your choice. But you’ll still need glasses for the other focal point; close or far. (I have a friend with one eye focused close and one far out and she has no depth perception. It also took some adjustment.)
I decided not to get it done because I can take my glasses off and read and that’s important. My doctor simulated the far focus with contacts and it meant I needed glasses for anything closer than 10 feet and reading was impossible even with the reading lenses. I believe people who get this done are trading one set of problems for another and I chose to stay with my current ones.
Lots of people are happy with the way their eyes are now, but might not be 10 or 20 years from now and there’s no going back.


26 posted on 05/31/2011 4:36:26 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: FrogMom

Lasik, too.


27 posted on 05/31/2011 4:36:56 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I would recommend PRK over LASIK, mainly because LASIK involves a corneal flap. There is real concern that the flap never really “heals”, risking flap disruption years down the road. The flap interface may also be responsible for the night vision issues. The Army uses primarily PRK for these reasons. There is more pain after PRK, but it is short-lived and manageable, especially with the “bandage” contacts that are used. I had PRK over a year ago and am very satisfied.


28 posted on 05/31/2011 4:36:56 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: Paved Paradise

Sure there is risk, as with any kind of surgery. There’s a risk to driving down to the store too.

If you pick a good doctor and listen to his recommendations the risk is minimal. They’ve done enough of them to know who will be a good patient and who wont. If you’re on the edge of the envelop then the risk goes up.


29 posted on 05/31/2011 4:38:43 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Paved Paradise

And apples will kill all the children too, I saw that testimony before Congress and we all know those guys would never lie to us.


30 posted on 05/31/2011 4:38:53 PM PDT by E.Allen
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To: Paved Paradise; Eaker
I agree, no Lasik for me. My husband has had it so has my son and daughter in law. No problems for any of them but an acquaintance had it years ago and recently has had cataract surgery. Two weeks after the cataract surgery he developed a torn macula, which according to him is something that can happen after you have both of those surgeries. He wishes he could have a redo because he can barely see out of one eye ...... but.......
31 posted on 05/31/2011 4:39:28 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: driftdiver
They correct one eye for near viewing and one for far viewing.

Do they tell them in advance that when they do that they lose their depth perception?

32 posted on 05/31/2011 4:42:14 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I went to a very well-known doc in the Metroplex. I had it done 8-9 years ago. I haven’t been able to see well since then. I had an adjustment (more lasik) by the same doc, but it made my vision worse. I was very nearsighted with astigmatism. He didn’t correct for the astigmatism and now my vision CANNOT be corrected with any kind of lens. I’m the only person I have every know who didn’t appreciate the outcome.


33 posted on 05/31/2011 4:43:17 PM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I saw two separate Opthamologists, neither tied to the procedure or with selling glasses, and they both told me it was not that good for farsighted people like me.
34 posted on 05/31/2011 4:46:37 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I’m hedging my bets and wearing soft contacts. More expensive in the long run, but no ill effects so far. They might be cheaper if you don’t have astigmatism.


35 posted on 05/31/2011 4:49:09 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Had it six years ago. I had terrific results and it changed my life. Bear in mind that 15% or so (that was the figure then) have neutral or even negative outcomes. My advice:

1. Find out all you can about the operation first.

2. Choose an experienced doctor.

3. Make very sure it's what you really want to do.

4. Follow the Doc's advice to the letter including post-operative procedures and examinations.

There will be an examination first to determine if you are eligible, i.e. have enough corneal tissue to shape with a laser. Usually it's free. You're not committed up to this point. Then make sure you have made an intelligent assessment of the risks. Then, if your mind is clear about it, do it.

36 posted on 05/31/2011 4:52:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: freedumb2003

My vision has been horrible since I was around 4. It was soooo bad that without contacts or glasses, looking at the huge E on the eyechart I couldn’t even see any black, just blurry white. It was worse that 20/500. After being in a tremor in a San Fran hotel on a trip I realized that anything like a fire or earthquake could put me in harm’s way as I couldn’t see anything past about 2 inches in front of my nose. So, I had Z lazer and wow wow wow. I still can’t believe it!! I can see!!! Before this, it was forever bloodshot eyes, infections from inadvertedly touching my contacts if something got under them, fumbling for my glasses, losing contacts, having to make midnight runs for contact solution when I was out- not to mention $800 glasses every other year and about $400 yearly for contacts and solutions. I realize there are risks with everything- it was the right decision for me.

And to Bonnie who called me four eyes in second grade- (giving middle finger).


37 posted on 05/31/2011 4:54:06 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: petercooper

“Never, ever use an eye doctor that accepts coupons.”

That was actually a King of Queens episode. Very, very funny.


38 posted on 05/31/2011 4:55:21 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I think extreme cases like yours are a great reason to do it.

I just shared some healthy skepticism.

:)


39 posted on 05/31/2011 4:57:41 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
Yes that's what I thought of. Ever see the one where Deacon & Kelly give Doug & Carrie the portrait painting? It's hilarious.
40 posted on 05/31/2011 5:01:22 PM PDT by petercooper (2012 - Purge the RINO's.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

http://lasikcomplications.com

Check out this website and do your own search of complications.

The last time I researched, about 50% have some kind of complications and 5% have serious complications.

The images tab is quite useful although it is difficult to replicate actual images.

I fall into that 5% category and have several complications. The most serious is irregular astigmatism.

You have to make up your own mind. Make sure you are a good candidate for the procedure. Two main reasons are the cause of complications, not being a good candidate and surgeon skill, which centered mostly about using the microkeratome. the latter has been replaced with a laser these days and mitigates much of that risk.

I would recommend that if you do have the procedure done, do ONLY ONE EYE. If it works out, then get the other.

I have a contact and my untreated eye, and well the other, I just don’t have practical vision.

Eventually, because of age I won’t be able to wear a contact, and then I don’t know what. I cannot wear glasses.


41 posted on 05/31/2011 5:02:19 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Tough enough to have survived the end of the world)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I had Lasik done in my right eye and PRK in my left eye. I wish I’d done both sooner. With Lasik my right eye was 15/20 within a week and with PRK it took me about two months to get to 20/20 in my left eye. I did have some problems with night vision and halo’s but that went away after 3 months or so. I picked my surgeon based on the number of surgeries he’d done along with the fact that he was the surgeon for all the local sports teams. Honestly, I couldn’t be happier with the results.


42 posted on 05/31/2011 5:16:30 PM PDT by Black Bishop
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To: Auntie Mame

They say your brain adjusts for it.


43 posted on 05/31/2011 5:16:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: freedumb2003

I went to a consultation in 1994 and it took until 2010 to get the nerve to do it. I waited until the technology got to a point where I had confidence in the procedure.


44 posted on 05/31/2011 5:19:52 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Yaelle
What can be done for the need for reading glasses?

As far as I know - nada.

loss of clear near vision is a result of age, loss of elasticity, hence, loss of ability to refocus or even focus at close range.

I use readers about 40% of the time, and I always use them when I first wake up (Because you aren't focused on anything while sleeping?).

I've had my eyes done twice, way back in the scalpel days, and almost twenty years later by Lasex. Neither was a trauma but the Lasex bordered on being fun.

DO NOT se3ledft your doctor based on price, go with numbers of successful surgeries and reputation/quality of the facility. Sorry, but there are some failures out there, go ahead and pay the added bucks as insurance against any other form of added price.

45 posted on 05/31/2011 5:22:15 PM PDT by norton
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To: petercooper

Where Carrie was painted with a Popeye arm?? That was hysterical. The actors playing Doug and Carrie are perfectly cast. Doug looks and acts like my brother and my best friend is Carrie Sr. She is from the Bronx and talks just like her.

Did you see the one where they went with Deacon and his wife to a B & B and Deacon made a music tape for he and his wife to have sex to? The song they did it to was by Marvin Gaye, Let’s get it on. Doug knew what the tape was for and they had rooms next to each other. C and D heard the song about 20 times and started questioning whether or not the 3 times a month they did it was enough. Too funny.


46 posted on 05/31/2011 5:26:29 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Maine Mariner

I’m a LASIK surgeon and have done over 60,000. I was the first eye doctor to have laser vision correction (way back in 1991). It was the best thing I’ve ever done! I’ve done Lasik (and related procedures) on my wife, son, S-I-L, hundreds of LEOs, athletes, and even plaintiff’s attorneys!! BTW, for those concerned regarding LASIK, the military (after many years of study) has wholeheartedly endorsed the procedure. In fact, the military eye surgeons are now the world’s largest LASIK providers (in volume). Many of your Top Gun Naval aviators have had successful LASIK, as have NASA astronauts. As they say, “If it’s good enough for them...”.

We also have a wonderful program where we do free LASIK for Wounded Warriors and their primary caregivers. I’ve never had more appreciative and more inspiring patients!

LASIK is a wonderful procedure, but it is a surgery and there is no such thing as a risk-free surgery. The risks are quite low and it is relevant to remember that contact lenses are also far from risk-free (in fact, the only risk-free way of correction vision is with glasses!).

If you or any other Freepers have specific questions, feel free to message me directly.


47 posted on 05/31/2011 5:27:42 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Had it done ten years ago and I’m extremely happy. Of course, I was blind as a bat before, so I didn’t have much to lose! Now I’ve got 20/30 vision, a great improvement over what I had before.


48 posted on 05/31/2011 5:28:10 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: norton
What can be done for the need for reading glasses?

As far as I know - nada.

I think they're using laser for that too. I believe it's called monovision or something like that.

49 posted on 05/31/2011 5:30:47 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I was the same, 20/900, 20/950, and had radial keratotomy 13 years ago. It was a true miracle, a blessing, and I am still thrilld with it.

RK is less comfortable, healing, but I had a terrific surgeon, and recommend it over lasik. Just mho.


50 posted on 05/31/2011 5:35:50 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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