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Nazi-era Technology Embraced by Republicans in U.S. Congress in the Name of National Energy Security
OilPrice.com ^ | 06/06/2011 | John Daly

Posted on 06/06/2011 8:55:38 AM PDT by bananaman22

Twentieth-century American military history has two iconic dates - 7 December 1941, the attack on Pearl Harbor and 6 June 1944, D-Day, when the liberation of Europe began.

The subsequent vicious Allied fight from Normandy to Germany saw the Nazis largely fueled by a technology that is now being promoted by the Republican Congressional leadership, in collusion with its munificent fiscal campaign energy supporters, as a way to lessen U.S. dependence on energy imports.

At issue is the Fishcher-Tropsch coal liquefaction process, developed by energy-poor Germany in the 1920s and expanded by the Nazi regime. Bent on dominating Europe, Hitler’s war machine suffered from increasing fuel shortages, first in September 1939 when Britain’s Royal Navy clamped a naval blockade on the Baltic, exacerbated in June1941 when the invasion of the USSR ended Soviet energy imports, leaving Germany largely dependent on Romania’s Ploesti oilfields after the failure of Army Group south to capture the Caucasus and Azerbaijan’s rich Caspian resources. FT production became increasingly critical to fueling Hitler’s war machine from then onwards, given Germany’s immense coal reserves.

By 1944, Germany was producing 124,000 barrels of synthetic fuels daily at 25 FT plants. FT was subsequently commercialized by South Africa’s apartheid regime, beginning in the 1950s through South Africa's state energy company Suid Afrikaanse Steenkool en Olie (SASOL), founded in 1950, now a private company and the world’s leading proponent of FT. In the early 1980s, as UN sanctions against South Africa began to take effect, two large coal to liquid (CTL) SASOL production facilities were commissioned and now form the single largest and most profitable asset in SASOL's global portfolio. Full article at: Coal liquefacation


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: belongsinbloggers; bigotedclownpost; coal; congress; energy; ismellozone; nazi; zotbait
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1 posted on 06/06/2011 8:55:41 AM PDT by bananaman22
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To: bananaman22

If the Nazis used it then we certainly should stop the Republicans from doing so.

The Nazis also had Workmans’s Comp and unemployment insurance, if what I have read is true.


2 posted on 06/06/2011 8:58:47 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: bananaman22

In short: Republicans are Nazis.


3 posted on 06/06/2011 8:58:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: bananaman22
Love the headline:

Nazis embraced by Republicans.

Yea I know that's not what it said, but targeting skimmers and speed readers that's what the headline is going for.

4 posted on 06/06/2011 8:59:56 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: bananaman22

Obviously, the only thing the RATS are pushing this year is fear!


5 posted on 06/06/2011 9:00:23 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: bananaman22

These a$$wipes couldn’t resist linking Nazi and Republican in the title, could they?

The store has nothing to do with Nazi’s or Republicans


6 posted on 06/06/2011 9:00:45 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: bananaman22

Nazi era? LOL


7 posted on 06/06/2011 9:00:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: bananaman22
I see someone could not pass up the opportunity to associate Republicans with Oil, Nazis and Apartheid all in a single article.

Trying to use our own resources to reduce our energy dependence on others should be promoted, not discouraged.

8 posted on 06/06/2011 9:00:57 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: bananaman22
Wow. The slant is awful on this article. To link Nazism to Republicans because they want to use a technology invented by them, is really an incredible level of bias.

How about this as a comeback: "Democrats Embrace Hitler-Designed Nazi-Era Cars (Volkswagons)"

9 posted on 06/06/2011 9:00:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Anthony Weiner is a little cocky.)
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To: Domandred
How do you think we got to the moon, missile technology and jet planes.

From captured Nazi's scientist.

10 posted on 06/06/2011 9:01:38 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: bananaman22

So this is the best propaganda that these libtard morons can come up with?

YAWNNNNNN


11 posted on 06/06/2011 9:01:38 AM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: bananaman22

When you have to engage in this sort of hysteric hate speech to promote your political dogmas, you have all ready lost the debate.


12 posted on 06/06/2011 9:02:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: DBrow

Using the term “Nazi-technology” in connection with the Fishcher-Tropsch process is equivalent to calling the Theory of Relativity “Jewish Physics.” IOW’s it’s inflammatory as well as flat-out ignorant.


13 posted on 06/06/2011 9:02:56 AM PDT by Tallguy (Received a fine from the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit.)
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To: thackney
Not only that, but they manage to do it on the anniversary of D-day.
14 posted on 06/06/2011 9:04:46 AM PDT by Ham Hock
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To: thackney

“Trying to use our own resources to reduce our energy dependence on others should be promoted, not discouraged. “

The greens and lefties howl loudest against projects that actually reduce our dependence on foreign oil. A flap recently about not being able to build substations in the USA for a power line from a hydro plant is one example.


15 posted on 06/06/2011 9:05:06 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: bananaman22
The Volkswagen exists as a result of a Hitler dictate.
Shall we get all of them off the road now?

16 posted on 06/06/2011 9:06:17 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Lazamataz
How about this as a comeback: "Democrats Embrace Hitler-Designed Nazi-Era Cars (Volkswagons)"

Nazis approved of abortion of a less than perfect fetus (for the good of the state).

Now that is an effective parallel.

17 posted on 06/06/2011 9:06:45 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: bananaman22
Nazi-era technology? What kind of hack writer penned this abomination of a phrase?

Does this mean that any technology in use within the 20-odd years of German National Socialism is somehow tainted with evil? Would you reference visiting Nazi-era Hoover Dam, building the Nazi-era Golden Gate Bridge, or talk about the Nazi-era New Deal by Nazi-era Roosevelt?

The point of the article, inane as it is, points more towards a 'Nazi-used' fossil fuel refining technique. Which is as stupid as refusing to use rockets or jet aircraft because the people who pioneered their use were bad.

Did I mention this article was stupid? I feel like I've not touched on that enough.

18 posted on 06/06/2011 9:06:45 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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“If the ideological footprint of Fischer-Tropsch is vile, then its environmental impact is even worse. Quite aside from the ideological concerns, fuel derived from the FT process has a carbon footprint 118 percent greater than that of conventional gasoline.”

John Daly must be some kind of Greenie. In which case, I’m ALL FOR this vile carbon creating technology!


19 posted on 06/06/2011 9:06:58 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: bananaman22
First off, where is the BARF alert. This is left wing propaganda.

If Congressional Republicans have their way, then the U.S. military will soon be fueled by an environmentally filthy technique that allowed the Nazi war machine to kill tens of thousands of allied troops and Pretoria to number thousands of black South Africans, all the while producing massive amounts of greenhouse gases, all in the name of corporate profits and U.S. energy “national security,” not to mention a revival of nuclear power in the U.S., an alarming prospect in the wake of Japan’s Fukushima catastrophe.

Yes. The GOP wants to kill everyone by polluting the world. Nuclear Power is dangerous and will kill everyone, which is why the GOP is pushing it. Screw that. We all know where this Rat is going with the NAZI reference.


20 posted on 06/06/2011 9:07:09 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazamataz
Meanwhile in San Fransicko, the leftist heroic aryan Foreskin man confronts the evil gibberish speaking Monster Mohel as he steals the foreskins of unsuspecting baby boys for his dastardly deeds.

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The left is just begging for an epic fall.
21 posted on 06/06/2011 9:08:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: bananaman22

This one is a keeper,LOL.


22 posted on 06/06/2011 9:09:17 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t give them a hit- read this filthy propoganda pice here:

“Twentieth-century American military history has two iconic dates - 7 December 1941, the attack on Pearl Harbor and 6 June 1944, D-Day, when the liberation of Europe began.

The subsequent vicious Allied fight from Normandy to Germany saw the Nazis largely fueled by a technology that is now being promoted by the Republican Congressional leadership, in collusion with its munificent fiscal campaign energy supporters, as a way to lessen U.S. dependence on energy imports.

At issue is the Fishcher-Tropsch coal liquefaction process, developed by energy-poor Germany in the 1920s and expanded by the Nazi regime. Bent on dominating Europe, Hitler’s war machine suffered from increasing fuel shortages, first in September 1939 when Britain’s Royal Navy clamped a naval blockade on the Baltic, exacerbated in June1941 when the invasion of the USSR ended Soviet energy imports, leaving Germany largely dependent on Romania’s Ploesti oilfields after the failure of Army Group south to capture the Caucasus and Azerbaijan’s rich Caspian resources. FT production became increasingly critical to fueling Hitler’s war machine from then onwards, given Germany’s immense coal reserves.

By 1944, Germany was producing 124,000 barrels of synthetic fuels daily at 25 FT plants. FT was subsequently commercialized by South Africa’s apartheid regime, beginning in the 1950s through South Africa’s state energy company Suid Afrikaanse Steenkool en Olie (SASOL), founded in 1950, now a private company and the world’s leading proponent of FT. In the early 1980s, as UN sanctions against South Africa began to take effect, two large coal to liquid (CTL) SASOL production facilities were commissioned and now form the single largest and most profitable asset in SASOL’s global portfolio.

If the ideological footprint of Fischer-Tropsch is vile, then its environmental impact is even worse. Quite aside from the ideological concerns, fuel derived from the FT process has a carbon footprint 118 percent greater than that of conventional gasoline.

Nevertheless, on 12 May the House Armed Services Committee voted to eliminate a ban on the military purchasing high carbon non-conventional fuels. In considering the annual National Defense Authorization Act, House Resolution 1540, the committee voted to exempt the Department of Defense from Section 526 of the 2007 Energy Independence and Security Act, which prohibits federal agencies from procuring fuels with higher life-cycle greenhouse gas emissions than conventional fuels, including liquid coal and tar sands oil.

The Pentagon is pushing back against being mandated to use these dirty fuels, backed by the coal industry and its Congressional supporters. On 3 June, Tom Hicks, the Navy’s deputy assistant secretary for energy, testified before a House Energy and Commerce Committee panel against Fischer-Tropsch fuels, stating, “In addition to requiring large new sources of coal, it requires enormous quantities of water, $5 to $10 billion in capital per plant to provide a fuel result that is more than twice as carbon-intensive as petroleum,” promoting instead new generation biofuels made from sources like camelina crops, corn stover and algae.

The House of Representatives Energy and Power subcommittee is reviewing a sweeping energy bill sponsored by Republican California Representative Devin Nunes. The bill, which has more than 70 co-sponsors, envisages opening vast offshore areas to oil-and-gas drilling, including the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) as well as mandate scores of new nuclear reactors over the next three decades.

If Congressional Republicans have their way, then the U.S. military will soon be fueled by an environmentally filthy technique that allowed the Nazi war machine to kill tens of thousands of allied troops and Pretoria to number thousands of black South Africans, all the while producing massive amounts of greenhouse gases, all in the name of corporate profits and U.S. energy “national security,” not to mention a revival of nuclear power in the U.S., an alarming prospect in the wake of Japan’s Fukushima catastrophe.

FT’s environmental impact is as squalid as its historical legacy, and in this case, the Pentagon’s commitment to agricultural biofuel renewable puts it on the side of the angels. So the question remains – will Congress, dominated by Republicans backed by “Big Coal” fiscal concerns, be able to coerce the Pentagon to accept this technology?

Watch this space.

By. John Daly for OilPrice.com


23 posted on 06/06/2011 9:10:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: bananaman22

By this logic, a warning that your house is burning down, should be ignored if the source happens to be a pyromaniac.


24 posted on 06/06/2011 9:10:22 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: bananaman22

The IDIOT that wrote this piece of half-ass-garbage FAILS to realize or recognize that the US has used a > crapload < of “Nazi-era” technologies, which I fail to see mentioned anywhere is this dubious article.

If it works efficiently and is cost-effective, I do not care who the technology belonged to...USE IT! =.=


25 posted on 06/06/2011 9:10:37 AM PDT by cranked
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To: bananaman22; DBrow; thackney; ClearCase_guy; Domandred; Redleg Duke; Mr. K; cripplecreek; ...
None of this was an accident, by the way.

A little more about John Daly (Dr. John C.K. Daly)

John Daly
John Dalyis the perfect example of the widespread Liberal mentality that is so commonplace in today's colleges and universities. Much like Ward Churchill, he is one of those teachers with an extreme Marxist and Socialist agenda that attracts the "Hate America" and "Anti-America" crowd. We know this because of his actions and words. And we know they are properly chosen words because he is an English Professor.

26 posted on 06/06/2011 9:11:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Anthony Weiner is a little cocky.)
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To: bananaman22
Things must not be going well for Daly, the site seems to have closed and erased the comment section on this one.

Big surprise there.

27 posted on 06/06/2011 9:12:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: bananaman22
If Congressional Republicans have their way, then the U.S. military will soon be fueled by an environmentally filthy technique that allowed the Nazi war machine to kill tens of thousands of allied troops and Pretoria to number thousands of black South Africans, all the while producing massive amounts of greenhouse gases, all in the name of corporate profits and U.S. energy “national security,” not to mention a revival of nuclear power in the U.S., an alarming prospect in the wake of Japan’s Fukushima catastrophe.

This reads like a press release from the DNC. Every liberal buzz word/term in the book.

And this idiot thinks we can run a military war machine on "eco-friendly" biofuels? Wait, we won't need a military because everyone will love us for being so earth friendly.

28 posted on 06/06/2011 9:12:42 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Tallguy

Hmm, you may be on to something here...many of the key physics work of that era was done by Jews!

I had to laugh at your Jewish Physics, good analogy!


29 posted on 06/06/2011 9:12:53 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: bananaman22

Meanwhile in east Tennessee, the coal gassification process was placed into large scale production and then doubled to successfully produce a host of chemicals and enable Eastman Chemical to be low cost producer of several products. The tandem operating plants have been in more or less continuous operation for 30 + years.

A third plant sits idle. It is a smaller pilot plant developed years ago with the same technology in joint venture with Department of Energy to test other outputs of the technology.


30 posted on 06/06/2011 9:13:06 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: bananaman22; All
Hmmm...I seem to recall that Harry Truman was a Demcratic President:

Operation Paperclip

31 posted on 06/06/2011 9:13:55 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: bananaman22
I actually read the article and was greeted this this AWESOME propaganda gem:

If Congressional Republicans have their way, then the U.S. military will soon be fueled by an environmentally filthy technique that allowed the Nazi war machine to kill tens of thousands of allied troops and Pretoria to number thousands of black South Africans, all the while producing massive amounts of greenhouse gases, all in the name of corporate profits and U.S. energy “national security,” not to mention a revival of nuclear power in the U.S., an alarming prospect in the wake of Japan’s Fukushima catastrophe.

I'm surprised they didn't link the GOP with the holocaust, but I guess in order to do that they have to admit it happened, which is getting hard for whackjob liberals to do with the new Islamomarxist in Chief running his anti-Israel campaign.

32 posted on 06/06/2011 9:14:03 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: ansel12

I hate blonde people. They should be rounded up and put in camps for orderly extermination. Blonde people are the reason for every problem in the world.


33 posted on 06/06/2011 9:14:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Anthony Weiner is a little cocky.)
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To: DBrow

I don’t know if Hitler ever personally used the term “Jewish Physics”, but some of the senior heirarchy of the Nazis certainly did. It points up the short-sightedness & cynicism of the Nazi’s that they could dismiss an entire branch of science while at the same time attempting to assemble an atomic bomb program.


34 posted on 06/06/2011 9:16:46 AM PDT by Tallguy (Received a fine from the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit.)
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To: BitWielder1

Our interstate system was modeled after the autobahn.


35 posted on 06/06/2011 9:16:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MrEdd

I left a comment. It has yet to appear.


36 posted on 06/06/2011 9:17:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Anthony Weiner is a little cocky.)
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To: DBrow

In no small irony, the Democrats are emulating the Wiemar Republic in printing money and the Nazi government model of fascism and state run industry.

Except for persecuting Jews (which may come later if the Muslim is reelected), the Democrats are working overtime to copy the Nazi model. Including “worship” of Herr Leader. Chris Matthews could have worked for the Nazi propaganda ministry.


37 posted on 06/06/2011 9:17:59 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Domandred

Okay I decided I love this article. It’s a propaganda masterpiece work of art.


38 posted on 06/06/2011 9:18:10 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Steel Wolf

In fact, it was the Nazis that had and used the first jet airplane. Better start grounding the commercial fleet.


39 posted on 06/06/2011 9:18:26 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: cripplecreek

WTF?


40 posted on 06/06/2011 9:19:10 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: Free Vulcan

The nazis were “environmentalists” as well.


41 posted on 06/06/2011 9:19:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: bananaman22
Hey Bananaman22. What do you think about this or anything? You have started a lot of threads over the year you are here but never comment on any of them. Do you believe in this radical propaganda? Why be here at FR if you don't have an opinion on any of it?
42 posted on 06/06/2011 9:20:43 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I probably shouldn’t confess this, but I use some “Communist era” technology.


43 posted on 06/06/2011 9:20:43 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: bananaman22; darkwing104; Jim Robinson

44 posted on 06/06/2011 9:20:52 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: hattend

Anti circumsicion comic book being sold in San Fransisco.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/proof-that-s-f-s-circumcision-ban-is-anti-semitic/


45 posted on 06/06/2011 9:21:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: bananaman22
Nazi-era Fashions Embraced by Democrats in Congress

As Congressman Steny Hoyer walked into Congress today, one couldn't help but notice that he was dressed in a pair of dress pants with a matching suit jacket. A button down shirt and a windsor-knotted tie went well with a pair of wingtip dress shoes.

Such fashion is widely seen in photos and films of top ranked Nazi Party officials in the 30's and 40's, including Adolf Hitler.

Combed hair and brushed teeth also suggest that Congressman Hoyer also follows some of the hygiene regime of top leaders of Germany's Nazis.

46 posted on 06/06/2011 9:21:53 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: bananaman22

At issue is the Fishcher-Tropsch coal liquefaction process, developed by energy-poor Germany in the 1920s and expanded by the Nazi regime. ......................................................... And now adopted by others who refuse to accept the big oil BS? 1920’s = Nazis? They had no say until 1931. But we as a nation adopted tape recorders, rocket research, speed of sound design for aircraft from the Nazi’s, and they were also ahead of us with TVs. They must have had a good technical education program, did we adopt that? We can’t say they were German inventions, we must call them Nazi inventions if they were made 1931-45.


47 posted on 06/06/2011 9:22:19 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The storm clouds of war are on the horizon, 1939 is again approaching us.)
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To: bananaman22

May the fleas of a thousand bubonic plague-ridden rats infest your armpits.


48 posted on 06/06/2011 9:25:51 AM PDT by tumblindice (NO got its feet wet years ago. Joplin was just destroyed . Which do you think will recover faster?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’m glad bananaman posted this.


49 posted on 06/06/2011 9:27:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Anthony Weiner is a little cocky.)
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t drag threads around to others.


50 posted on 06/06/2011 9:33:21 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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