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Alert For All Members - New Thievery Method
phone ^ | 6/6/2011 | n/a

Posted on 06/06/2011 9:21:51 AM PDT by B4Ranch

I just received a call from a friend who arrived home after a three week vacation to find his entire house cleaned out. That's right everything was gone.

Somebody pulled up with a moving van and the thieves cleaned his house out in one day. Just like a professional mover would do. They took everything down to the garden hoses.

While he was driving home he got a call from the local police who said, "We have found some of your belongings".

He replied, "What are you talking about?." When the cop explained what had been found it didn't make any sense at all.

Here he was in Oregon driving home to the Bay Area and gets a phone call telling him and his wife that all of their belongings are gone. I can't imagine that happening to me. My wife would flip out for sure.


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If you are going on vacation let all of your neighbors know when you'll be back. If they see any vehicles in the driveway, please call the cops.

I hope nobody complains that I posted this in General but I wanted to alert as many FReepers as possible.

1 posted on 06/06/2011 9:21:52 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch

It is unfortunate but it may not be a good idea to tell the cops in advance...just sayin.


2 posted on 06/06/2011 9:24:21 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: B4Ranch

You could probably have your calls fowarded to a neighbor.


3 posted on 06/06/2011 9:25:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: B4Ranch

Forward all your calls to your cellphone.

Make some lights on a timer.

Make sure your mail delivery is stopped. If you get newspapers delivered stop them too (actually just cancel them, what are you crazy?)

Have neighbors or friend drop in and hang out for a while every other day or so.


4 posted on 06/06/2011 9:28:16 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland (!@)
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To: ladyjane

Most of the time it will be a good idead;but there are cops who will rob the very house they are supposed to watch.Last such incident I know of took place locally a long time ago,and the dirty cops got cold feet and dumped the guns taken,got caught,went to prison, and did not get new job as cops.

A trusted neighbor who is home all the time may be best;if your neighbor is gone to work the thieves can steal a lot between 9am and 5pm.


5 posted on 06/06/2011 9:29:43 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: B4Ranch
What's “the new method”? The robbers did it while they were on vacation?
6 posted on 06/06/2011 9:30:17 AM PDT by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: B4Ranch

Did this friend of your’s make a post on Facebook saying he was going on vacation?


7 posted on 06/06/2011 9:30:23 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Peter from Rutland

I suggest owning some good dogs.Anyone breaking into our house is going to have to deal with our German Shepherds.


8 posted on 06/06/2011 9:30:37 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: ryan71

They read Obituaries too.


9 posted on 06/06/2011 9:32:29 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: B4Ranch

I watched an old Dragnet on Net-flick which had this same story line. Nothing is new under the sun.

When we leave on vacation we let the neighbors know as well as the police.


10 posted on 06/06/2011 9:32:52 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: Peter from Rutland
My M.O. is to have the neighbor collect mail (and a newspaper if applicable, which isn't with us) versus placing "stop orders". He also moves the patio chairs around a bit to indicate occupancy.

The fewer that know, the better.

11 posted on 06/06/2011 9:34:13 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: B4Ranch

Thieves have been doing this for decades. Back in the 1980s, I came home at lunch only because I was very sick, waved in a friendly manner to the movers carefully packing and emptying my neighbor’s home, and called the police. My neighbors were on vacation and had never mentioned moving, so I knew what was happening. The only down side was the very long time it took to get their stuff (the “evidence”) processed and back into the home.


12 posted on 06/06/2011 9:34:32 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Peter from Rutland

If you can afford a 3 week vacation, you can afford to just buy all new stuff.


13 posted on 06/06/2011 9:35:04 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: Peter from Rutland

I hate the “volunteer” newspapers. These are the papers, notes or advertisements that show up uninvited and announce to the world how long it’s been since they were dropped off.


14 posted on 06/06/2011 9:35:34 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: B4Ranch

Did they have neighbors close by? I can’t imagine neighbors not questioning what was happening if they were close enough to see. We don’t leave town without letting our neighbors know and we don’t leave lights that would advertise that we’re not home. Even the timers tell a different story to folks perhaps casing a home. I read until a different hour every night so having the lights go off at a set time is a sure bet they are on a timer.

A couple of weeks ago we had a friend come in and feed and medicate our cat while we were gone for three days. She decided on her own to turn on lights because it was TOO DARK for the cat. This immediately told anyone up to no good that no one was home - lights on all night???? The “I was just trying to help” kind of friend. She’s done the same with our thermostat before - we set it where we want it when we leave and she for some reason can’t resist meddling with it. Won’t happen again!!!


15 posted on 06/06/2011 9:37:25 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: caver

>>Did this friend of your’s make a post on Facebook saying he was going on vacation?<<

That, I have no idea about.


16 posted on 06/06/2011 9:39:25 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

whevener i go on leave, I notify my pal, frank who comes and gets my mail. by the time anybody figures out that I’m gone, I’m back.


17 posted on 06/06/2011 9:40:25 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: B4Ranch
Yep. It's a trend. Another trend is for drug thieves to get (generally available) details of a funeral. They pick cancer victims a lot. Then, when everybody is at the funeral, they go to the home of the deceased and steal all the leftover pain meds, and other items. I've house sat for neighbors before while they attended the funeral.

I've got a buddy here at work and he told me about a theft just across the road from him. He lives in a slightly rural area. He said that his neighbor (across the road) had a large gunsafe. The house was a pre-fab. From the police report, it "seems" that the thieves knew where the safe was. They backed up into the yard with a dual axle pickup, broke the door down, and punched two holes in the exterior wall on both sides of the safe. Then they fed a chain through the holes, around the safe and onto the hitch on the back of the truck. Then they drove forward and pulled the safe right off the floor (it WAS bolted - the bolts broke) and THROUGH the wall. They (probably) winched it into the back of the truck before driving away. He said it was one of the craziest things he's seen in a long time....left one BIG mess!


18 posted on 06/06/2011 9:40:28 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Peter from Rutland
Make sure your mail delivery is stopped.

Have someone you trust collect it.

19 posted on 06/06/2011 9:40:40 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: ryan71

I thought using a moving van was a new trick but I guess not.


20 posted on 06/06/2011 9:41:01 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: ErnBatavia

Yep, and don’t post your vacation plans on Farcebook! 8^)


21 posted on 06/06/2011 9:41:01 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland (!@)
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To: ryan71
What's “the new method”?

Brazen, daylight robbery using a moving truck as a cover and cleaning out the whole house, rather than a quick breaking and entering and going after only the valuables.

22 posted on 06/06/2011 9:42:30 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: B4Ranch

Did he check that he hadn’t lost a kidney?


23 posted on 06/06/2011 9:43:17 AM PDT by don-o (Tagline was zotted)
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To: Peter from Rutland
Make sure your mail delivery is stopped. If you get newspapers delivered stop them too (actually just cancel them, what are you crazy?)

Better to have a neighbor pick them up - or a teenager who does babysitting to pick up the stuff for a price...

24 posted on 06/06/2011 9:46:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. Orwell)
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To: B4Ranch

When I was growing up in Queens, someone came in and cleaned out the next door neighbors house one night when they were on vacation. We never heard a thing. We found a window fan in our yard, just over the fence, apparently left there by the thieves. (It was a low fence and they could have reached around a truck in the driveway to temporarily place it down. We should have had the cops dust it for prints, but it didn’t occur to me.)


25 posted on 06/06/2011 9:46:42 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: ladyjane
I work closely with law enforcement in my state (a hazard of my job :-). A deputy buddy of mine a couple of counties over was on an SRT and they were mainly involved in serving warrants to occupants of suspected meth labs and crack houses. I was over at his house one weekend and we were playing with a integrally suppressed .22 rifle that he had. I asked him what they did with it, and he said they shot guard dogs and street lights outside the location where they were serving the warrant. I suggested that it might be easier to just call the power company and have power killed and he chuckled and told me that the drug gangs had people on the "inside" of the utility companies who were tipping the bad guys off!

I can't comment on the merits of telling the cops you'd be away in advance, but I don't think I'd tell any utility companies! :-)
26 posted on 06/06/2011 9:48:08 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: B4Ranch

One little helpful hint that we do is we ask a trustworthy neighbor to park their additional car in our driveway. We have some late teens next door (very trustworthy, good kids) and we actually throw a few bucks there way for the inconvenience. Bless their hearts... last time we went away, we came home to find all the outdoor flowers even watered. We either take the dogs or board them so I leave a HUGE bowl in the backyard. By HUGE, I mean that someone would assume that I was watering a wolf pack. Thus far, these two tips have worked for us and I hope it works for some FR’s as well.


27 posted on 06/06/2011 9:51:25 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: B4Ranch
Well.....certainly the cost of his homeowner's insurance would go down....so that's a good thing.

It has occured to me often - usually after a bottle of champaign - that we are actually possessed by our posessions.

To be sure, there are some possessions that we truly love...but....much of our "stuff" is the "white noise" of life.....or "boat anchor" if you prefer....IMHO

28 posted on 06/06/2011 9:53:00 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be ERADICATED....NOW!!)
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To: B4Ranch

I read about somebody who ended up in a small fender bender. The person who caused the accident gave him some tickets to the ballet.

While he, and his wife attended the show, they got cleaned out.


29 posted on 06/06/2011 9:53:58 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: B4Ranch

We have an alarm system that calls the police plus if we are gone overnight my wife’s son stays in the house. He is a veteran of the Afghanistan War and well armed.


30 posted on 06/06/2011 10:01:22 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: hiredhand

Then, when everybody is at the funeral, they go to the home of the deceased and steal all the leftover pain meds, and other items.

Those are rally low life bath-turds that don’t deserve to breath air.


31 posted on 06/06/2011 10:04:28 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: momtothree

Ha! Love the big dog bowl idea.


32 posted on 06/06/2011 10:06:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Farmer Dean
I agree, but I like bigger dogs. :)

Security Alarm 1 and 2 pictured below. Both are over 185 lbs.





As you may have guessed, they are insane Danes.
33 posted on 06/06/2011 10:06:47 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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To: B4Ranch

This is common and usually an inside job. Mail and newspaper deliverers are not always scrupulous and get $$ from passing along who has canceled such services for their vacations. Don’t cancel your deliveries ever. Have someone pick up your mail and papers (yes, some people still get papers).

You need to thoroughly trust your gardeners and maids. Have them still arrive as usual, if you trust them, while you are gone. Consider even giving them presents or bonuses when you get back from trips. Encourage them NOT to be motivated to tell their cousin Jose that your home will be empty for a week. Help them feel part of the household, so they wouldn’t be part of robbing you. ( give them food or drinks, talk to them, befriend them the rest of the year. Appreciate them.) If you are on poor or distant footing with them, you’d better have a house sitter in your home while you are gone!


34 posted on 06/06/2011 10:07:40 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: B4Ranch

A trusted teenager from church (or if girls, two of them) would LOVE to GET OUT OF THEIR HOMES and be “boss” for a while.

Make sure the parents are the type to check on them frequently.


35 posted on 06/06/2011 10:08:40 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I have a mail slot in my garage door. For anything larger, my mailman has it held at the local post office till I get back.

By the way, I don’t tell my neighbors if I’m going away. I live in a rough neighborhood. They might be the ones who would break in. Only my brother and a few trusted friends know when I’m away.


36 posted on 06/06/2011 10:09:12 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Peter from Rutland

“Make sure your mail delivery is stopped. If you get newspapers delivered stop them too (actually just cancel them, what are you crazy?)”

You’re dead wrong there. That’s the worst thing you can do. See my previous post.


37 posted on 06/06/2011 10:09:18 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: 9YearLurker

We found some at a Dollar General (thin, stainless steel type of bowls). The kids wrote “KILLER” on one and “BIG BOY” on the other. Since the backyard is already littered with real dog toys, it fits.


38 posted on 06/06/2011 10:12:47 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: rokkitapps
If you can afford a 3 week vacation, you can afford to just buy all new stuff.

That sounds somewhat like a liberal, class-warfare comment.

39 posted on 06/06/2011 10:19:11 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: momtothree

Ha ha!

I bet a good 15” rawhide bone would give them pause too.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 10:19:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

That is so funny! At our grocery store, there are these gigantic, dried bones (I am assuming from a cow) that must be 24 inches in length. I guess one of those would give the impression that a toy Poodle doesn’t live at that house! LOL!


41 posted on 06/06/2011 10:21:01 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: B4Ranch
I don't know about all neighbors, but one neighbor that one especially trusts. Don't cancel the newspaper. If the neighbor receives a newspaper, they should suspend theirs and borrow the vactioning neighbor's paper. They should take the mail in every day too.

Had an incident to an associate some time ago where he was robbed during weekday work hours. He had a nice 4-wheelin' truck parked in the garage. Theives bust into his house and loaded up the truck in the garage with pretty much everything of major value. Then hitched up the trailer with the jet-ski's and pulled out into the driveway. Within a minute another pickup truck backed into the driveay, into the garage, and hitched up the trailer with the ATV. Then both trucks drove off.

The neighbors didn't think anything of it; the first truck pulling out was the neighbors pickup (familiar), and the other truck was assumbed to be a friends (assuming they were heading up north - a common enough occurance).

42 posted on 06/06/2011 10:23:53 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: Yaelle

Who has the money for maids and gardeners?


43 posted on 06/06/2011 10:28:26 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: B4Ranch; All

A house-sitter turns out to be cheaper in the long run than putting animals in a kennel and trying to deal with your alarm company from 3000 miles away. A lot of times there are no neighbors at home during the workday to notice whether someone has a truck parked in your driveway. My neighbors would have no idea whether I was moving or not; they aren’t nosy.

I hire some nice girls my daughter grew up with; they won’t have crazy parties and their parents are involved. All the alarms and light-timers in the world don’t create the same impression as someone who is actually using your TV, dragging trash and recycling bins in and out, watering the flowers and leaving a hose out for a day then bringing it in the next day, playing music, opening and closing windows, walking the dogs, etc. You can’t fake real life. And they are under strict orders not to post any information about where they’re staying on their Facebook wall!


44 posted on 06/06/2011 10:31:47 AM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: cripplecreek; B4Ranch

I haven’t had a land line in 7 years. This sort of eliminates the “nobody answered at home” problem.


45 posted on 06/06/2011 10:31:58 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: King_Corey

ROTFLMAO!!!

Them r CUTE!
Of course, they are snuggle dogs, right?


46 posted on 06/06/2011 10:35:00 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: bgill; Yaelle

>>Who has the money for maids and gardeners?<<

The folks who managed their money better than you did.


47 posted on 06/06/2011 10:36:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: Allegra

Actually just joking about the state of the economy. No one deserves their stuff being stolen... probably should have /sarc’d


48 posted on 06/06/2011 10:44:06 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: fatnotlazy

My brother, who used to work for the Post Office, told me that new mail slots are not permitted, old ones are grandfathered in. The ostensible reason to prevent injuries to letter carriers, the actual reason is because the post office could not compete with bulk carriers.


49 posted on 06/06/2011 10:44:06 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Mrs.Z
A trusted teenager from church (or if girls, two of them)

We were out of the house for three months, and we had the choir director's daughter stay at our house. The only problem was that she was such a better housekeeper than my wife that my wife's jealousy was palpable.

50 posted on 06/06/2011 10:50:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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