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Apple announces OS X Lion, iOS 5, iCloud
Engadget ^ | 6/6/11 | Engadget

Posted on 06/06/2011 12:35:21 PM PDT by ctdonath2

Apple introduced OS X Lion, iOS 5, and iCloud today. Lots of articles at the link and elsewhere.


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To: Swordmaker; ctdonath2; All
I followed the entire two-hour presentation live on line via the "MacWorld Live Update from WWDC" at http://www.macworld.com/article/160229/2011/06/live_update.html.

You'll need to scroll to the bottom of the comments and work upward to read the comments chronologically -- as published in real time. If you missed it in real time, it is still definitely worth the effort to read it!

For Swordmaker's thread that the prejudiced mod[s] trashed, he went to the trouble of laboriously -- by hand -- reversing the inverted time sequence of the feed for your reading convenience. I don't have that much energy -- especially since some [fill in your favorite pejorative here] might arbitrarily delete it, and waste all my work, too. :-(

So, thanks to "the ????? behind the curtain", you'll have to make do with the link, above...

21 posted on 06/06/2011 4:40:36 PM PDT by TXnMA (There is no Constitutional right to NOT be offended.)
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To: brytlea
I’m not really clear about all of this. What is stored in “the cloud”?

iCloud is a syncing service. It makes sure that you have the same files, documents, music, and apps on all your devices: Macs, iPads, iPhones, iPod touches. For example, if you buy a song on your iPod, it gets downloaded automatically onto your iPhone, iPad, and iTunes on your Mac when you are online.

22 posted on 06/06/2011 4:48:13 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: F1reEng1neRed
Stuff you buy from Amazon can be automatically added to Amazon’s Cloud and accessed from whatever device you want. What’s the difference?

For free, you get every song you've ever bought from iTunes. For $25/yr., you can have every song you ripped from disk, bought from Amazon or Wal-Mart, torrented, recorded yourself, or pirated downloadable from anywhere. That's downloadable, not streamable. If you have lower-quality songs that are in the iTunes catalog, you can download them in 256K AAC.

I can now have any song in my 40GB iTunes library on my 16GB iPhone in seconds from anywhere. It's freaking huge; aside from the convenience, as Mashable put it, Apple has found the first way to monetize pirated content.

23 posted on 06/06/2011 5:21:47 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: brytlea
I’m not really clear about all of this. What is stored in “the cloud”?

Your data. You access it through your device.
24 posted on 06/06/2011 5:29:55 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: ReignOfError

>>>Apple has found the first way to monetize pirated content.

That is one heck of a way to look at it :)

My guess is the bulk of that $25/yr is going to go to the record labels and ASCAP, BMI, etc. for royalty fees. :)


25 posted on 06/06/2011 5:32:24 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: ReignOfError

I’m really not sure what you’re getting at. I can get on my Amazon Cloud right now and either have my music streamed or I can download it to my phone if I want.

Didn’t cost anything.


26 posted on 06/06/2011 5:39:54 PM PDT by F1reEng1neRed
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To: ctdonath2

The entire concept of the cloud, in essence, puts your data in someone else’s hands. No thanks - I see it as an electronic safe deposit box, without the safety.


27 posted on 06/06/2011 5:43:24 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: meyer

cloud: noun, singular; a dynamic arrangement of multiple potential single points of failure with a user at one end, and his data at the other.


28 posted on 06/06/2011 5:51:26 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: stripes1776; aruanan; Sprite518

I’m a little confused. Are all 3 of you saying the same thing?


29 posted on 06/06/2011 5:54:25 PM PDT by brytlea (Someone the other day said I'm not a nice person. How did they know?)
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To: ctdonath2
I must admit, the iCloud is a great idea.

Yes indeed.


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30 posted on 06/06/2011 6:09:46 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Sprite518

If you think anything you have is private, you are living in an alternative universe. Something you have committed to memory only, is safe as long as they don’t decide they need you to tell it, otherwise good luck


31 posted on 06/06/2011 6:14:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Progressivism, Support Palin, or get used to it.)
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To: PA Engineer

The entire video is on Apple’s website, see for yourself. Worth the time lot of goodies for the developers.


32 posted on 06/06/2011 6:16:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Progressivism, Support Palin, or get used to it.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
My guess is the bulk of that $25/yr is going to go to the record labels and ASCAP, BMI, etc. for royalty fees. :)

58/12/30 to labels/publishers/Apple is the prevailing rumor -- with a $150M up-front advance.

33 posted on 06/06/2011 6:20:18 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: stripes1776
iCloud is a syncing service. It makes sure that you have the same files, documents, music, and apps on all your devices: Macs, iPads, iPhones, iPod touches. For example, if you buy a song on your iPod, it gets downloaded automatically onto your iPhone, iPad, and iTunes on your Mac when you are online.

Does it also mean that if any one of those devices gets lost/stolen and hacked, whoever has it has access to all of your data?

34 posted on 06/06/2011 6:23:26 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: F1reEng1neRed
I’m really not sure what you’re getting at. I can get on my Amazon Cloud right now and either have my music streamed or I can download it to my phone if I want.

What iTunes in the cloud does that Amazon doesn't:

In a nutshell, you can drag and drop some of your music library to the Amazon cloud a track at a time, or with one click have your entire library in the cloud automatically synched and completely legit. We'll see what changes Amazon and Google have to make to their cloud plans when the RIAA gets through with them.

35 posted on 06/06/2011 6:35:03 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: itsahoot
The entire video is on Apple’s website, see for yourself. Worth the time lot of goodies for the developers.

Tried. DSL issues tonight. Will check back.
36 posted on 06/06/2011 6:37:20 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: tacticalogic
cloud: noun, singular; a dynamic arrangement of multiple potential single points of failure with a user at one end, and his data at the other.

I was thinking of it more in terms of the fact that over 1/2 the voters in this country were stupid and/or devious enough to put the communist Obama in the White House. The odds are high that many of them would have accesss to this cloud. I don't trust 'em as far as I can throw 'em. And as I age, I don't seem to be able to throw people nearly as far as I once could.

37 posted on 06/06/2011 6:41:24 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: tacticalogic
iCloud is a syncing service. It makes sure that you have the same files, documents, music, and apps on all your devices: Macs, iPads, iPhones, iPod touches. For example, if you buy a song on your iPod, it gets downloaded automatically onto your iPhone, iPad, and iTunes on your Mac when you are online.

Does it also mean that if any one of those devices gets lost/stolen and hacked, whoever has it has access to all of your data?

If by "hacked" you mean that someone figures out your passcode or gets around security, or you have it unlocked to begin with, then yes. Same as if your data is resident on the device. Anything that lets you get to your data could potentially let someone else get to your data.

If your device is lost or stolen, you can lock it down and wipe it remotely.

38 posted on 06/06/2011 6:41:48 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ilgipper
Gotta love competition. Apple just made major steps to keep pace with android. W/O android, we would not be seeing several of these updates

Keep pace with android? Apple has been a pioneer in the whole "cloud" concept all along - long before Android even came on the scene. Unlike Android, though (and in typical Apple form), Apple waited until they had all the pieces in place to unveil the "whole package".

MobileMe (though as a paid service) has had a chunk of these "new" features for some time. Now, with the unveiling of the final "Lion", iOS 5, and the official "release" of iCloud -, as you put it - "competition".

39 posted on 06/06/2011 7:03:41 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: ReignOfError

-•Upgrades all your songs to 256Kb, if they’re in the iTunes catalog (18 million songs)

=Bandwidth hog if streaming. No reason for it.

-•Keeps libraries synched among 10 devices (Mac, Windows PC, iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad)

One of the worst parts about Apple products/iTunes gets even worse. Yeah for MORE synching.

-•Holds 25,000 songs, not counting iTunes purchases. Amazon holds 5GB — less than I can keep on the phone, hence not terribly useful to me. An equivalent number of tracks, 100GB, costs $100/yr. from Amazon.

Ummm, I’ve got 20GB w/Amazon and it didn’t cost me a dime and you’re Amazon purchases don’t count against the cap. And unless you work around Wifi 24/7 (and most people don’t)having all that storage capacity is pointless if you can only access a small bit at a time. (You aren’t going to be streaming many 256kb songs over your 3G iPhone with a whole lot of success).

Never fails, every single move Apple makes gets to made out to be some earth-shattering development.

“We’ll see what changes Amazon and Google have to make to their cloud plans when the RIAA gets through with them.”

LOL, if the RIAA what’s to alienate the #1 market of smartphones there is, they do so at their own peril.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 7:15:02 PM PDT by F1reEng1neRed
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