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I bought my first gun

Posted on 06/06/2011 1:08:04 PM PDT by Scythian

I finally broke down and purchased my first gun for home protection.

It's the Mossberg 500 12 gauge. It has a short barrel and is great for in the home use. It even comes with a pistol grip but I wont attach that unless it everything goes all "beyond thunderdome" on us.

Going to take my wife out and make sure she knows how to handle it. I felt a shotgun was better and safer for an in home protection mechanism in our case. Heck, just the pump-action noise is enough to send someone packing.

Anyway, in for a penny in for a pound. I set aside money for 3 purchases of different firearms. I feel safer knowing we have it, just hope to never do anything with it.


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1 posted on 06/06/2011 1:08:10 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Please. Ensure you are both trained to use it safely.


2 posted on 06/06/2011 1:09:39 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Scythian

My rule, which I am working on following, is that a person should have no fewer than three firearms.

1 sidearm, 1 rifle, 1 shotgun.

So far I only have a rifle. I’m working up toward the other two purchases. I’m also fairly new to the world of owning firearms.

Sounds like you picked up a decent weapon. If you have ANY intention of ever using the pistol grip, though, I’d go ahead and attach it and get used to it. A little change is really a big change when you suddenly need to use something. Others here may disagree with me. Default to their advice. I’m still really new.


3 posted on 06/06/2011 1:10:42 PM PDT by HushTX (I make libs rage quit.)
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To: Scythian

Better to have it and never need it, then need it and not have it.


4 posted on 06/06/2011 1:12:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pabianice

I agree, it’s my first gun in 20 years, I used to own a few but when I moved away from home I gave them all to my brother in law. My kids are all in 4H, one in pistol, one in rifle, and one in shotgun. My oldest is on his way to an Eagle Scout, he’s in the shotgun right now through 4H, plus they shoot at Boy Scout camp in the summer. They’ve all passed their hunters ed class too.

But ya, I think my wife and I will do the 4H shotgun class as well, I know how to handle them, my dad was police officer, used to shoot all kinds of guns at the range. I have a very healthy fear of them, they’re always loaded, no matter how many times somebody tells me the ain’t.


5 posted on 06/06/2011 1:12:53 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Couple suggestions, cycle the action a lot to smooth it up. The Mossberg I had was quite notchy compared to my Winchester 870.

Also, get some dummy rounds and practice cycling with shells in the magazine. Takes more force and feels different than empty cycling. Your wife especially might not rack the action forcefully enough to chamber a shell.

And of course, get out and shoot with the thing. Have to be familiar with it in operation.

6 posted on 06/06/2011 1:13:05 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Scythian

One of the departments I used to work for issued the 500ATP in 12ga for a trunk gun, and we found them to be very reliable. Good choice, just make sure you and your wife shoot it enough to feel comfortable with it. I have several “war stories” from my 20+ year police career where just the sound of the action being worked was enough to defuse a dangerous situation.


7 posted on 06/06/2011 1:13:17 PM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: Scythian

Just make sure you know how to use it safely.


8 posted on 06/06/2011 1:14:16 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Scythian

Probably the next thing to do is pattern it to see just where it shoots. If the pistol grip allows one to keep the butt stock too then it might be a good idea to attach it.

My Winchester pump with a pistol grip and normal length stock, feels much better in my arthritic hands than the original. If it is simply one of those which shortens the length, then either throw it away or sell it.


9 posted on 06/06/2011 1:14:26 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Scythian

I lost all my guns in a boating accident


10 posted on 06/06/2011 1:15:16 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: 230FMJ

Nothing like the “rack rack” sound to get the attention of a bad guy.


11 posted on 06/06/2011 1:15:46 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Scythian

Good choice for home D.

You might also want to pick up a .22 rifle for general firearms learning and training. Much less intimidating, and less tiring, to shoot than a 12 ga., and better for learning marksmanship. And you can shoot all day for a small cost.

I like the Henry lever-action, Ruger 10/22, Savage bolt-action... but there are many good .22’s.


12 posted on 06/06/2011 1:15:46 PM PDT by S. Ruger
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To: HushTX

Dang, this guy I know...he’s got 4 rifles and 6 handguns but no shotgun. Guess I should let him know he needs to be more well rounded. Need plenty of ammo too...5,000 - 6,000 rounds per caliber isn’t asking too much!


13 posted on 06/06/2011 1:15:46 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: Scythian
We, the Gov’t appreciates your declaration. Your actions are fully noted and linked into our database.
14 posted on 06/06/2011 1:16:04 PM PDT by Palter (We can't afford a Republican or Dem President. We are broke.)
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To: doorgunner69

Remington 870 I assume you meant. Fine weapon!


15 posted on 06/06/2011 1:16:07 PM PDT by donozark (It's hard to afford a psychiatrist when you work at a gas station...)
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To: Scythian

Congratulations. I need to add one of those to my collection as well. If you decide to get a 22 rifle, might I suggest the Ruger 10/22 for a good dependable affordable addition.


16 posted on 06/06/2011 1:16:14 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (My new business is great! I make prayer rugs w/ bombs inside. Prophets are going thru the roof!)
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To: doorgunner69

Ya, it is a bit stiff to cycle. That’s a good idea to get it cycling ...


17 posted on 06/06/2011 1:16:48 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: pabianice
Mossberg is a good brand. If I'm not mistaken, this is a pump action (manual) shotgun?
18 posted on 06/06/2011 1:17:00 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Scythian

One thing to be aware of with the Mossberg regarding the use of pistol grips is that the slide release is to the left and slightly behind the trigger guard. The pistol grip will make it awkward to depress the button unless you are shooting left-handed.


19 posted on 06/06/2011 1:17:15 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: GRRRRR

ROFL.

If he has that many weapons, he’s probably covered. My rule is more for those of us WITHOUT our own armory who are trying to get prepped.


20 posted on 06/06/2011 1:18:13 PM PDT by HushTX (I make libs rage quit.)
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To: S. Ruger
You might also want to pick up a .22 rifle for general firearms learning and training.

Ha, funny you should say that. My son's been begging for a 22, going to get a bolt action Ruger 22. It's a great looking gun, very customizable.
21 posted on 06/06/2011 1:19:11 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Texas resident

‘Nothing like the “rack rack” sound to get the attention of a bad guy.”

The boom works better but is a tad messier.


22 posted on 06/06/2011 1:19:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Scythian

That Mossberg is a fine choice. For a personal defense shotgun I prefer it over the Remington 870.

You mentioned purchasing two more firearms so I hope you’ll accept a bit of unsolicited free advice.

You need a handgun and I recommend a decent used .357 magnum revolver. You should be able to find one by S&W, Taurus, or others for less than $400 or so. If you can find a Model 19 S&W for that price, life is very, very good.

Then you need a rifle. I’m going way off the usual reservation here and will recommend a quality, used bolt action rifle by Winchester or Remington chambered in either .308 or 30-06 caliber. Have a qualified gunsmith look at any used firearm before you purchase. It’s worth the small fee.

I think you’ll find if you go this route you’ll have perfectly serviceable defense weapons and you’ll have saved a ton of money that you can put into ammunition and, more importantly, time at the range.

Now for that Mossberg see if you can scare up some of the Federal Low Recoil Tactical buckshot loads. At close range, where you’d use them, they’re devastating.

For slug loads get some of those Federal Copper Solids. You’ll want some standard #6 birdshot rounds for inside the house. Trust me, they’ll stop an intruder dead, and I do mean dead, in their tracks inside of about 20 feet and won’t overpenetrate your drywall.

Now get thee to an instructor and learn how to use that thing!

Best,

L


23 posted on 06/06/2011 1:19:56 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: al baby

On November 5, 2008?


24 posted on 06/06/2011 1:20:06 PM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: Scythian

And throw that pistol grip in the trash. Just trust me.


25 posted on 06/06/2011 1:20:34 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: al baby
Yes, Collections have a way of growing-disappearing-growing again-disappearing... A fair collection
26 posted on 06/06/2011 1:20:40 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Scythian

The Mossberg 500 12 ga. is my choice, as well. I put the pistol grip on it the first day I got it, because that makes it shorter, and more wieldable in an inside environment. I actually taught myself to shoot it from the hip and have become pretty accurate at hitting targets up to about 50 feet out that way.


27 posted on 06/06/2011 1:21:31 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: HushTX

Good rule. I’ve got the handgun (H&K USP Compact .40) and shotgun (Winchester 12-gauge) and am in the process of completing my AR-15, which I am buying and assembling piecemeal right now.


28 posted on 06/06/2011 1:21:37 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Texas resident; Scythian
Nothing like the “rack rack” sound to get the attention of a bad guy.

Why would you want to give away your advantage?

The first sound the bad guy hears should be the last sound the bad guy hears.

29 posted on 06/06/2011 1:23:19 PM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: Scythian
My son's been begging for a 22, going to get a bolt action Ruger 22.

Out of curiosity, why the bolt action over semi-auto? I went looking for a bolt-action myself recently to teach the kids and ended up with a Ruger 10/22.

30 posted on 06/06/2011 1:24:03 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: OB1kNOb

Mossberg now has a really good, heavy barreled .22lr called the Plinkster. It comes with a ten round mag, but the company is producing a 20 round mag now, too. The action on it is very similar to the Marlin 795, but the Mossy caosts around $100 and has a better ergonomic grip. They also make an M-16 like .22lr w/20 round mag, but it is rather pricy. You can buy two Mossberg .22lrs for the price of a stainless Ruger 1022.


31 posted on 06/06/2011 1:24:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Wow, don’t think I’ll ever own that many guns, nice collection though (of course, it’s more than a collection).


32 posted on 06/06/2011 1:24:45 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Congrats on your new scatter-gun purchase. ▲
33 posted on 06/06/2011 1:25:30 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Scythian
Excellent choice, picked one up a couple of months ago my self.

Check out YouTube for some videos/tips on cleaning and maintenance, you'll be glad you did.

34 posted on 06/06/2011 1:27:44 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Scythian
"It has a short barrel and is great for in the home use. It even comes with a pistol grip but I wont attach that unless it everything goes all "beyond thunderdome" on us."

In my experiences, pistol grips on shotguns are only good for defense, where there's not much room to maneuver (small travel trailers, mobile homes, where such weapons are legal in vehicles, etc.). With elbow room (e.g., regular house), a full buttstock is better for safety and target acquisition.

Be very conscious of safety (books, articles, maybe even a low-cost course), and relaxingly follow every safety step on the range. And may I suggest low recoil loads (~ 1150 fps instead of 1325 fps for 00 buck) for the wife to practice with. She might have a much better perception of the experience before the next range expedition. Progress to regular loads, if she likes, after firing many low recoil loads.

As for the pistol grip, regular 2 3/4 loads will cause some pain and a lump between the thumb and forefinger after about 5 loads. Holding a pistol-gripped shotgun in front of the face for aiming can also cause injuries. Best to use low-recoil loads, aim from the hip, and use a firm grip for that.


35 posted on 06/06/2011 1:27:52 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: al baby

“I lost all my guns in a boating accident”

LOL...that’s a good story to tell ‘em when THEY come to confiscate your guns.


36 posted on 06/06/2011 1:28:00 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Scythian

I’m jealous. A Mossberg has been on my to-do list for years.


37 posted on 06/06/2011 1:28:17 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: thackney
Out of curiosity, why the bolt action over semi-auto?

Well, a bolt action seats the same everytime and is supposedly therefore more accurate. Also, I think it teaches decipline rather than just tap, tap, tap until he hits the target, it slows him down. Of course, he wants the semi-automatic, but he's coming around, I'm not dead set on the bolt action though. We're going to look at them this weekend. I'll let you know which one we purchase ...
38 posted on 06/06/2011 1:29:03 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

You made the best choice for the first defense weapon, IMO. Learn as much about safety as you can, and use repetition a lot to make safety steps second nature.


39 posted on 06/06/2011 1:29:26 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: Lurker
You’ll want some standard #6 birdshot rounds ...won’t overpenetrate your drywall.

I think you might be surprised by testing this theory.

Here is #4 penetrating 6 layers of drywall. I would not expect #6 to be stoped by 2 layers.

The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm

40 posted on 06/06/2011 1:29:39 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Scythian
Good choice, but a bit of advice about that pistol grip.

One wet and windy night out here in the swamp I was having problems with my long wire shortwave antenna. I used a spotlight, looked out the door and saw a tree limb hitting the wire.

I pulled out the Mossberg with the pistol grip, opened the door and cut loose on the branch. My wet left hand slipped off the wet forend and that 20" barrel came up and back and nailed me right on the forehead, hard!

41 posted on 06/06/2011 1:30:37 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion)
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To: Scythian

Good choice!
Mossbergs and 870 rems. are very reliable firearms,as duck hunters will attest.

Find a nra instructor for shotguns and take a short course.


42 posted on 06/06/2011 1:31:00 PM PDT by devistate one four (Popping smoke! 2012 the year of the taxpayer! TET68)
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To: Scythian

I got the same shotgun - I am 5’3 and weigh 120 lbs and it is not too much gun for me.

In fact, I had to “dispatch” a couple of aggressive roosters and it worked just fine.


43 posted on 06/06/2011 1:32:00 PM PDT by 30Moves
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Find a course in home defense shotgun.

I’ve used pistol grip shotguns, they are of very limited use. Very hard to aim. If you need to place a round (or load of shot) precicely, fire from the shoulder, using the sights. You can get aftermarket ghost ring sights, I think. If the bad guy is three feet from a loved one, you don’t want to fire from the hip.

Many people’s first shot with a shorty pistol grip shotgun is that the thing recoils into their belly, knocking the wind out of them. Movies make it look easy, but that’s fake!


44 posted on 06/06/2011 1:32:48 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Scythian

After about 5 shots with the Mossberg 500 w/ pistol grip, you will not want to shoot stockless anymore. Shoulder-less recoil is pretty nasty.

I would highly recommend that you consider purchasing a Knox recoil reducing Special Ops stock for about $100. It will make your Mossberg 500 a lot more practical for home defense and game shooting (and a lot more fun for your wife to shoot!). Only one allen screw to swap out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Knoxx-SpecOps-Mossberg-500-Adjustable-Stock-4200-C-NEW-/310321358450?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4840982672


45 posted on 06/06/2011 1:34:59 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Sorry, but I pictured that barrel cracking you in the head and had to laugh, sorry ;(

I think the pistol grip frankly would be too much, would probably break my wife’s hand, but great for testosterone ...

And guys, thanks fot the tips on youtube videos on the Mossberg 500 and to get the low recoil cartridges for my wife to get used to it, I hate for her to shoot it once and be terrified of it.


46 posted on 06/06/2011 1:35:41 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: doorgunner69
Couple suggestions, cycle the action a lot to smooth it up. The Mossberg I had was quite notchy compared to my Winchester 870.

I grew up around my fathers Model 97. The slide action on that thing was so tight, I figured it never had that many rounds fired through. The racking noise was so loud you could hear every action, ejection port opening, loading bail, hammer cocking. Once your familiar with the sound of a 97 rack--it stays with you, unless it's worn, I've seen actions on 97's "fall open".

47 posted on 06/06/2011 1:37:09 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Scythian

Shoot it many times - everyone in the family who might ever pick it up should have fired enough to be comfortable and not cringe in anticipation of that kick. The NRA Basic Shotgun course is good, if you can afford it. If not, any nearby trap/skeet/shotgun club is a good place to get help and pointers. Also, think about how to load it, and there are as many answers to that as there are regulars on FR. I like the idea of something that won’t go through too many layers of drywall or at least won’t have much energy left if it does (no, I’m not worried about the house, just about family members on the other side of a wall), and my opinion is that other than slugs it doesn’t matter what your load is within five yards, and I don’t expect to use my shotgun farther away than that. I like anything from 00 buckshot to #7 birdshot, and I don’t think it matters indoors, except that the smaller shot won’t do nearly as much damage after the second layer of drywall. Also, some people recommend a mixed load. I disagree unless you have a whole lot of training. You should know what’s coming out, and you’ll lose track if you really need to shoot more than once.


48 posted on 06/06/2011 1:37:35 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: GRRRRR
Celebrate diversity!


49 posted on 06/06/2011 1:37:49 PM PDT by magslinger (Because I read The Book and paid attention!-FReeper Psalm 144)
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To: Disambiguator; Scythian
"One thing to be aware of with the Mossberg regarding the use of pistol grips is that the slide release is to the left and slightly behind the trigger guard. The pistol grip will make it awkward to depress the button unless you are shooting left-handed."

...works by straightening the wrists a little and the tip of the right, middle finger (for right-handed folks). Also remember that the release shouldn't be necessary, after the first load is fired. Just pump it surely, completely and firmly each time after that.


50 posted on 06/06/2011 1:38:13 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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