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(Vanity) middle finger pain (need advice)
me | 06-06-2011 | ak267

Posted on 06/06/2011 9:13:50 PM PDT by ak267

For the past two weeks I've noticed some discomfort clasping/clinching my left hand whenever I grip a pole or piece of equipment. The base knuckle (left side of the knuckle) on my left, middle finger feels a little sore. When I massage the left, forarm tendons, the pain from clinching or gripping is almost gone.

When I bend my left, middle finger to the right (towards my thumb) there's discomfort. If I bend it up, down or to the left (towards the my pinky) there is no pain.

Sometimes the hand can feel a little stiff in the morning.

Arthritis? Tendonitis?


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1 posted on 06/06/2011 9:13:51 PM PDT by ak267
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To: ak267
Sounds like arthritis.

Have your doctor check it out. They can generally do something to help you if they catch it early enough.

2 posted on 06/06/2011 9:17:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Yesterday I meditated, today I seek balance. That was Zen, this is Tao.)
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To: ak267

Depends on age. If past 60 could be Arthritis. If younger could be Carpel tunnel. Likely not Tendonitis which is usually in the upper arms.


3 posted on 06/06/2011 9:17:29 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: ak267
"Sometimes the hand can feel a little stiff in the morning. Arthritis? Tendonitis?"

Sounds like it could be a little of both. Baby the finger as much as you can. Heat is soothing, and topical analgesics should work well. I always use Blue Emu. It's expensive, and I don't know how it works, but it does. No smell, no grease. Just, a few minutes later, you realize the pain is gone.

4 posted on 06/06/2011 9:18:09 PM PDT by redhead (Get the &%@*$ Government OUT of our BUSINESS!)
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To: ak267

Stop flipping off 0bama when he says “let me be clear”?


5 posted on 06/06/2011 9:18:24 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Liz Cheney/Sarah Palin 2012 Release the photo Andrew!)
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To: ak267

Stop giving people the bird.

You might have pulled it. Or, you might have a small cramp that’s sticking around. See a doctor if it persists.


6 posted on 06/06/2011 9:19:40 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: ak267

Get a clavicular resection on the affected side. If you’re over 40, you’ll feel new. It’s a lot of chiseling of bone, grinding, and reseating of you tendons, but it’s where almost all wrist, hand, arm, pain originates from due to nerve entrapment in the shoulder. To know for sure, does the rotation of your arm seem to affect the pain?, such as twisting a doorknob and pulling / pushing at the same time? Do you feel stiff when pulling a shirt on?


7 posted on 06/06/2011 9:19:52 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

You win


8 posted on 06/06/2011 9:21:09 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: ak267
Get some capsaicin/alcohol rub. Apply it it liberally after you wash the area thoroughly in warm water. Oh, and try not use it for a few days.
9 posted on 06/06/2011 9:21:37 PM PDT by allmost
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To: ak267
Could be tendinitis. I'm fifty-ish - it's the same with my left and right ring and pinkie fingers. And squeezing the middle knuckle on my left ring finger hurts like hell, too. The soles of my feet sometimes hurt in the mornings on a cold floor during the winter. The doc diagnosed it as a little onset arthritis, and prescribed Mobic (meloxicam). Doesn't work 24/7, but it helps during the day. A couple of Advil usually help in the evening.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

10 posted on 06/06/2011 9:22:11 PM PDT by Viking2002 (RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
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To: ak267

Middle finger pain? Give it a rest, stop picketing the White House for awhile!

BTW - I went to my doc for a pain in my rest, he said carpal tunnel and I got a brace. A few months later I went o my chiropractic type guy for my feet/knees. He asked about my brace and I told him, but said it didn’t seem to be helping much. He did his goofy tests - turns out my elbow was out of it’s socket! That was awhile ago and it does okay now, until I try to lift a heavy car battery or something. I take lots of things the doc says with a grain of salt now.


11 posted on 06/06/2011 9:22:38 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: ak267
Advice? Stop playing hockey with Vancouver!

Canucks' bad behavior earns 8-1 spanking!

12 posted on 06/06/2011 9:23:47 PM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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To: ak267

The muscles that largely move your fingers are in the lower arm. So this probably isn’t a muscle issue.

Probably nerve or joint damage. You mentioned “equipment.” Do you use heavy equipment that vibrates? You may have bruised the cartilidge on one side of that joint. Or caused trauma to a nerve on the side that hurts.

Or it could be something else entirely.

Short version: You need an xray of the joint at issue.


13 posted on 06/06/2011 9:24:00 PM PDT by piytar (Obama opposed every tool used to get Osama. So of course he gets the credit. /hurl)
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To: Viking2002

Sheesh, you’ve run out the warranty and now you expect better living through chemistry? ... Hang in there, zork, it only gets worse with age.


14 posted on 06/06/2011 9:25:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: piytar

I do a lot of data entry


15 posted on 06/06/2011 9:26:37 PM PDT by ak267
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To: ak267

Some other posters have mentioned shoulder issues. Possibly. There is a lot of tension and force transmitted through the arm when you grip something, and a slight misalignment up top could express in your hand.

If the pain persists, see a doc...


16 posted on 06/06/2011 9:28:05 PM PDT by piytar (Obama opposed every tool used to get Osama. So of course he gets the credit. /hurl)
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To: ak267

You may well have trigger points in your forearm. Trigger points in the forearm refer pain to other places and can refer pain into the hand. For example, many instances of carpal tunnel pain actually turn out to be TPs in the forarm in both the flexor and extensor muscles. Of course, you could also have tendonitis and/or arthritis in those knuckle joints too, as you state.

I suspect you may have TPs in the flexor digitorum muscles. TPs in this muscles can send fairly sharp pains (almost a burning pain) to the inside of the fingers. This TP can be caused by overuse of grasping things, just as you mention.

Look for TPs in the upper forearm and they’ll usually be fairly deep. Using the thumb of your other hand, push inward/massage any really sore spots you find. Don’t over do this. Massage for a couple of minutes about six times a day. It may take a day or three to remove the TPs.

Let me know how you do.


17 posted on 06/06/2011 9:33:54 PM PDT by miele man
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To: MHGinTN
Did I mention that my left rotator cuff is shot to hell? Or the wife - a year younger - has already had both knees reworked because they need replaced? You ain't kidding about the warranty. We feel like one of our kitchen appliances - the warranty expires, and a week later, *POOF* - it needs a repair man. LOL My father-in-law died in his 50's, my dad at 65, my mother-in-law at 70, and my mom, bless her, says she's heading for the last round-up at 71 with her chronic problems. Man, talk about a preview of coming attractions.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

18 posted on 06/06/2011 9:34:14 PM PDT by Viking2002 (RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
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To: ak267

Take two Advil and call me in the morning.

If it doesn’t affect your trigger finger or your shooting, don’t worry about it.


19 posted on 06/06/2011 9:34:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: ak267

I’m not a doc, but have some knowledge of the mechanics and engineering.

If you type a lot, maybe your bruised one side of the joint via repetitive stress.

Or if your posture isn’t good, your shoulder is tweeked, and the muscles are torquing the joint.

Rest the hand. Take (OTC pain med of choice). Use a topical. Give it two or three days. If the symptoms persist at the same level, see a doc. Right then. If they lessen but don’t go away in 7-10 days, still see a doc.


20 posted on 06/06/2011 9:34:42 PM PDT by piytar (Obama opposed every tool used to get Osama. So of course he gets the credit. /hurl)
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To: Viking2002

I am reminded of that image of a frog crushing the throat of the Egress .. don’t ever give up. There’s nothing in the Bible about it being a bad thing to leap into St Peter’s presence screaming at the injustice. Don’t let the bastard demons have a victory. Fight this crap until the botter end!


21 posted on 06/06/2011 9:39:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: All

Thanks for the advice. The main things are:

(1) Massaging forearm relieves some of the pain when clasping

(2) Middle finger hurts when I either grip an item or pull it to the right (left, up and down are okay).

I’ll give it some time (I’ll take some Motrin) and do some massaging. If it doesn’t go away, I’ll see my GP or a specialist (what kind of specialist?).


22 posted on 06/06/2011 9:40:25 PM PDT by ak267
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Make that ‘bitter end’. Time for my medication, obviously. Only aspirin, just aspirin.


23 posted on 06/06/2011 9:41:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Ah, yes, that drawing. 'The Last Act Of Defiance'. Love that.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

24 posted on 06/06/2011 9:41:50 PM PDT by Viking2002 (RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
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To: ak267

Reduce the amount of tennis you’re playing ...


25 posted on 06/06/2011 9:42:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Wait - my bad. 'The Last Act Of Defiance' was the moth-eaten mouse flipping off the hawk about to snatch him up in his talons. 'Never Give Up' was the frog.......

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

26 posted on 06/06/2011 9:45:43 PM PDT by Viking2002 (RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
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To: Viking2002

There are many different forms of arthritis; I have osteoarthritis.

What I find helps is keeping the joints strong through exercise. Since the major affected joint is the sacroiliac (which I never heard of until I got arthritis in it), I do back exercises to strengthen the lower back muscles and support the joint.

I rarely take pain medications.

I think the exercise is best for osteoarthritis; other forms of arthritis may not be so easily managed. Also, the amount of exercise is important; too much makes the pain worse.


27 posted on 06/06/2011 9:46:27 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: ak267

And if the symptoms get worse despite rest, see a doc right away.

What type of doc? Preferably an orthopedic surgeon or hand specialist. Why not an immunologist or some such to look for arthitis? Because an ortho or hand surgeon can rule out mechanical issues, so you’ll know that it’s something else. An immunologist or some such can’t do the same thing the other way. There are too many non-mechanical issues that can cause joint pain to screen easily.


28 posted on 06/06/2011 9:47:13 PM PDT by piytar (Obama opposed every tool used to get Osama. So of course he gets the credit. /hurl)
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To: ak267

Try some Blue Emu, I use for back and neck pain, it works for me. It’s worth a try.


29 posted on 06/06/2011 9:52:28 PM PDT by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: ak267
Get a parafin heat bath from Walmart (about $25) and coat your hand in hot wax a couple of times a week.

Also harvest some stinging nettles and apply the sting around the affected finger and pain areas, you can google "medicinal use of nettle" for further info.

30 posted on 06/06/2011 9:58:41 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: spokeshave
Nettle is particularly effective as a diuretic, so it helps prevent most types of kidney stones as well as urinary tract infections. By keeping water flowing through the kidneys and bladder, nettle helps keep crystals from forming into stones and washes bacteria away.

Nettle is distinctly different from diuretic drugs. These drugs are often used to reduce high blood pressure and edema (swelling from excessive fluid), but studies have not shown nettle to help either of these conditions. It's unclear why this is the case. It may be that the herb works differently than diuretic drugs, or it may simply be that the correct research has not yet been done.

Nettle leaves can also help reduce the pain of arthritis. In one preliminary study, nettle leaf juice was as effective at reducing the pain of various types of arthritis as anti-inflammatory drugs. In another study, nettle leaf juice enhanced the effects of the anti-inflammatory drug diclofenac in people with osteoarthritis.

In addition to drinking nettle leaf tea or juice, an old tradition for relieving the pain of arthritis is to apply fresh leaves over aching joints. Though this initially causes increased pain from the stings, it ultimately relieves inflammation and pain. This effect may be the result of something known as the "gate phenomenon."

When the skin over a painful joint is stung, the spinal cord reduces pain signals coming from the joint underneath. Two studies have now shown that the application of topical nettle stings is in fact helpful for relieving arthritis pain for those who can tolerate the initial discomfort. Taking nettle by mouth in any of its forms, including capsules or tinctures, is also helpful for arthritis.

And if you ever eat poisoned mushrooms by mistake....make a solution of ground milk thistle seeds and drink it ASAP

Burdock root will also clean the kidneys.

enjoy

31 posted on 06/06/2011 10:06:00 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Stop flipping off 0bama when he says “let me be clear”?


You beat me to it. I was going to say something like that.


32 posted on 06/06/2011 10:07:09 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ak267

I used to have the same problem.
I quit playing with myself (and the problem disappeared)

Just kidding.

I had the same problem and someone suggested that was the cause but it was probably because I slept on it wrong some night or sprained it at work and it just lingered for a couple of months.

Some sprains actually take longer than others to heal.


33 posted on 06/06/2011 10:15:44 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: ak267
looks painful.


34 posted on 06/06/2011 10:45:00 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Viking2002

I still have that T shirt. I think the full title was “The last great act of defiance.”

Other T shirt shows three vultures perched on a tree looking downward, with one saying, “Patience my ass. I’m gonna kill something!”


35 posted on 06/06/2011 11:06:33 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: exDemMom

“Since the major affected joint is the sacroiliac...)

Just wondering if your doctor checked you for ankylosing spondylitis. Sacroiliac problems are indicators of that disease.


36 posted on 06/06/2011 11:09:55 PM PDT by mouske
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To: ak267

I don’t know if you have carpal tunnel symptoms, but FWIW, here’s my experience with typing on a computer keyboard to completely avoid carpal tunnel:

When typing, keep the angle formed between the back of your hands and your forearms either 180 degrees (straight) or not much less, but preferably more than 180 degrees. To clarify, place both hands on the keyboard on the home row, with the tips of the fingers touching the keys on the home row, the normal starting position for typing. Move both wrists up while leaving the fingertips on the keys. That’s the comfortable angle you want between your hand and forearm.

If you lower the wrists and lift your fingertips off they keys, that’s the painful hand-forearm angle. Twenty years ago, doing heaving typing, I started getting carpal tunnel symptoms and figured this out by accident through just doing what was less painful to be able to work. People tip their keyboards up facing them, and they position the keyboard lower than their elbows. Both of these keyboard positions force the hands to bend back. You want your hands to bend forward, so keep the keyboard no lower than your elbows; higher than your elbows works nicely. You can also tip the keyboard away, i.e., top rows of keys lower than the spacebar.

I have never experienced any problems since adopting these positions, even to the point of typing all day. If one is tired, not hunching forward with the head and neck is important to avoid a stiff neck.


37 posted on 06/06/2011 11:14:41 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: ak267

Nix the arthritis theory. Look down the connective tissue pathway (tendons, etc.)


38 posted on 06/06/2011 11:22:59 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Ma'am, that is not a seizure. That is a dance move.)
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To: ak267

You might try applying lemon oil where it hurts. Lemon oil contains limonene, which has been shown in animal studies to relieve pain and inflammation. When nothing else worked, I used lemon oil for relief from shingles pain and it seemed to also spur healing.

Lemon oil is available in a small bottles at the aromatherapy rack of a vitamin or health food store. It is a thin oil that absorbs quickly into the skin and can be applied repeatedly to good effect. Be careful as it will sting if you get it into any scratches or sores or into your eyes.


39 posted on 06/06/2011 11:27:43 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: ak267

Did you know you were in for all the jokes when you asked for advice? (I could see it coming from your title)
Poor dear. Well, hope your finger gets better.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 11:31:17 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ak267

I do agree with the trigger points being a great cause, and relief for, the pains you are describing. Find some good charts on the net, and you can really help that stuff. Or else find a physical therapist who can teach you how to find and fix them. There is a guy on the net who has a video that shows you how to release in your arm. Good stuff! Really helped my hands.


41 posted on 06/06/2011 11:37:16 PM PDT by Mazey
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To: exDemMom

Some time ago I assisted someone with a database of a fairly large sampling of arthritis studies.
What I thought I noticed, not really focused on by the studies or the person assisted, afaik, was the importance of lubrication, that is, I wondered if we are not drinking enough water on a consistent lifelong basis. I don’t know if it is possible to catch up once you realize you need it, but I do know it is important for brain health as well.


42 posted on 06/06/2011 11:52:11 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: smokingfrog; neverdem

Or ... Go to the veterinarian get some dmso an crush some aspirin to a fine powder mix the aspirin an dmso to make a nuclear strength version of analgesic ointment.

I don’t have much mileage on me but a boatload of sudden stops. Old injuries induced arthritis.

Little bit of that topical on the source of the pain works perfect.


43 posted on 06/06/2011 11:52:53 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: ak267

Three pieces of advice:

1. See a doctor.

2. Seriously, see a doctor.

3. Did I suggest seeing a doctor?


44 posted on 06/07/2011 1:54:09 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: ak267

That’s what happens when you say, “Pull my finger”.


45 posted on 06/07/2011 2:25:07 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ak267

Sticking it up too much at liberals?

Seriously, it is most likely tendons or nerve ( sub as carnal tunnel syndrome or similar) related. Does it improve with rest? Does it go numb or tingle at all?


46 posted on 06/07/2011 3:53:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (Who is "Generic Republican" and why does he poll so much better against Obama than anyone else?)
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To: Mazey
Or else find a physical therapist who can teach you how to find and fix them. There is a guy on the net who has a video that shows you how to release in your arm. Good stuff! Really helped my hands.

Have a link handy?
(sorry about the pun:>)

47 posted on 06/07/2011 4:19:15 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: mouske
Just wondering if your doctor checked you for ankylosing spondylitis. Sacroiliac problems are indicators of that disease.

Thank you for the concern. I believe my osteoarthritis may have been caused by untreated scoliosis putting pressure on the joint. Kids are screened for that, but somehow, I wasn't diagnosed until well into adulthood.

48 posted on 06/07/2011 4:38:42 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: ak267
Seriously, try soaking your hand in hot water with epsom salts. If it doesn't bring you some relief, there may be some damage to address. Epsom salts can't hurt, so take this advice for the salt it's worth. Good luck.
49 posted on 06/07/2011 5:21:34 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: blackdog

I have had a mild nerve entrapment in the shoulder, however, surgery was not necessary. I was given a set of exercises to strengthen the muscles in such a manner where the shoulder was lifted off the affected nerve. The non-invasive route worked in this case, so the surgical route was not necessary. I had been using a sports medicine doc at the time.
Blackdog - is this now a arthroscopic procedure?


50 posted on 06/07/2011 5:41:16 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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