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West Point stands by punishment for cadet in LaBelle incident
houston chronicle ^ | June 6,2011 | Allan Turner

Posted on 06/07/2011 12:54:39 PM PDT by freedommom

West Point officials will stand by their decision to kick Houston senior cadet Richard King out of the Army military academy in the wake of a March altercation involving soul singer Patti LaBelle at George Bush Intercontinental Airport.

The academy’s Monday statement was the first regarding the attack, which left the 23-year-old man with a concussion and lingering symptoms. King’s attorney, John Raley, had asked the academy to reconsider the dismissal.

Although academy officials did not discuss details of the King case, the former student said he had been placed in an 18-month, active-duty mentorship program for violating the academy’s code of honor. At the end of the program, he would be eligible to apply for re-admission.

"The U.S. Military Academy completed a thorough investigation regarding the incident that occurred at the Houston airport on March 11, 2011..." academy officials said. "Following this investigation, the Academy chain of command took appropriate action in accordance with Army Regulation 210-26."

Raley today said that King was "a good soldier and will proudly serve his country wherever he is deployed."

"When he completes his 18 month tour of duty, he will reapply to West Point," Raley said in an email. "...Richard was honored to be a West Point cadet, and, God willing, will be one again."

Raley likened West Point’s decision to drop King from the academy to a judge’s decision in court. "We must respect the decision regardless of our personal feelings," he said.

Last week, King’s attorney filed a civil suit against LaBelle, three of her employees, an airport taxi dispatcher and the city of Houston to obtain actual and punitive damages in connection with the incident.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: lawsuit; pattilabelle; richardking; westpoint
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1 posted on 06/07/2011 12:54:42 PM PDT by freedommom
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To: freedommom

This is just so wrong on so many levels.


2 posted on 06/07/2011 12:56:17 PM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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To: Melas

Let’s hope this 8-12 month mentorship program will allow our Cadet to heal, pursue his claim in court and return with full health and complete attention to his career at West Point.


3 posted on 06/07/2011 1:00:47 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: freedommom

The article is unclear as to whether the airport security video backs up the cadet’s story or not.


4 posted on 06/07/2011 1:01:43 PM PDT by Eva
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To: freedommom

I hope he sues LaBelle and her goon squad for all they are worth.


5 posted on 06/07/2011 1:04:22 PM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: Eva

>The article is unclear as to whether the airport security video backs up the cadet’s story or not.

The video is on You Tube and thoroughly backs up his story. He was basically walking by using his cell phone and got roughed up.


6 posted on 06/07/2011 1:04:50 PM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: freedommom

Bull$h!t !!

The new unwritten rule, p!$$ off some special person defined as a celebrity, corporate/gov’t executive and you will be made an example of !


7 posted on 06/07/2011 1:06:36 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: freedommom
The video makes it look like they assaulted the kid pretty good.
8 posted on 06/07/2011 1:07:49 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Hopefully when he goes back to West Point we have a new Commander in Chief.

And yet again HPD has gone down the sewer. The work of chief Sam Nuchia has gone down the drain.


9 posted on 06/07/2011 1:08:02 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: freedommom

Outrage! But that is what you get for joining today’s politically correct military.

My advise, don’t join the Army. They are as corrupt as any other government agency.


10 posted on 06/07/2011 1:10:17 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: freedommom

Good news: He may win millions of dollars from LaBelle — and possibly from the USMA, although they may be immune from suit.

Bad news: Where does he go to get his good name back? “Kicked out of West Point for being in a drunken fight” is technically true but woefully unfair.


11 posted on 06/07/2011 1:10:44 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: freedommom

Obviously West Point knows something we don’t. I tend to trust their judgement on this one.

Believe me, Hudson High could care less who Patti LaBelle is or isn’t.


12 posted on 06/07/2011 1:11:44 PM PDT by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: Eva

The video is there in the article.


13 posted on 06/07/2011 1:12:58 PM PDT by Jemian (One cannot have a media frenzy unless it is started by ... THE MEDIA!)
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To: drbuzzard

The kid got too close to princess labelle’s luggage, so he got beaten. After the beating, the cops had their pictures taken with the celebrity.

welcome to obamaerica.


14 posted on 06/07/2011 1:16:30 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: freedommom

I assume members of the Senate or House have been contacted and have seen the video. Do any of them have the balls to call the head of West Point to testify. I doubt it.


15 posted on 06/07/2011 1:16:53 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: drbuzzard

Thanks, I don’t have high speed internet, so I avoid videos. That is what I thought that I read.

So, did the academy go with the accusation of public drunkenness? What is the regulation that he is said to have violated?


16 posted on 06/07/2011 1:18:18 PM PDT by Eva
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To: passionfruit

I second that.


17 posted on 06/07/2011 1:19:11 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Terabitten

Correct. It was an honor code violation - he probably lied about drinking when asked about the incident, and then changed his story when the facts began to emerge.


18 posted on 06/07/2011 1:20:24 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Eva

>So, did the academy go with the accusation of public drunkenness? What is the regulation that he is said to have violated?

I am not familiar enough with the regulations to say. I imagine the honor code is available somewhere.


19 posted on 06/07/2011 1:22:01 PM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: drbuzzard

They mentioned in the original article that the La Belle people had accused the cadet of being drunk in public, which they knew to be a violation of the honor code. The Cadet had had 2 drinks aboard the airplane.


20 posted on 06/07/2011 1:25:36 PM PDT by Eva
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To: FightThePower!
"My advise, don’t join the Army."

My ADVICE to you is to learn the proper usage of words.

21 posted on 06/07/2011 1:28:12 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: freedommom

I would skip the lawsuit and meet up with her and her bodyguards with the rest of his football team.


22 posted on 06/07/2011 1:28:20 PM PDT by MatD
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To: Terabitten
Obviously West Point knows something we don’t. I tend to trust their judgement on this one.

Then you are a frickin' idiot. The Army(and other military services)have long been unjust and willing to sacrifice one of their own in order to keep things on an even keel(in their opinion).

23 posted on 06/07/2011 1:31:35 PM PDT by calex59
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To: FightThePower!
BHO reviewed the tapes and West Point acted stupidly.

The only positive from this is if he wins his case against the protected B!tch then damages awarded SHOULD be much higher due to his lost status in the Army.

The downside is the "if it don't fit you must acquit" scum of the earth lawyers will say "see even the Army blames this guy".

24 posted on 06/07/2011 1:31:49 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: CORedneck

Patti LaBelle????

A washed-up has-been who never was.


25 posted on 06/07/2011 1:34:29 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Here you are in the Ninth - two men out and two men on.)
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To: pogo101

Two drinks on the plane are unlikely to have made him drunk. In Texas it is against the law to be publicly intoxicated, and the BAC level limit is 0.08%.

At a body weight of 160 pounds, he’d have needed 4 drinks to reach that level, according to http://dui.drivinglaws.org/drink-table.php

Hopefully, this young man will prevail in the civil suit and perhaps may be able to use the results to make criminal claims against the thugs, departmental claims against the HPD officers, and to reopen his case at West Point.

In any case the official statement from West Point fails to address the injustice against a cadet who was assaulted by thugs, as the video made the thuggery obvious.


26 posted on 06/07/2011 1:47:19 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Eva
They mentioned in the original article that the La Belle people had accused the cadet of being drunk in public, which they knew to be a violation of the honor code.

How is being drunk in public, even assuming he was, a violation of the honor code?

Conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentlemen, perhaps. But it that's all it was or wasn't, then charging him with an honor violation is an honor violation.

27 posted on 06/07/2011 1:54:56 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: freedommom

They got him on an Honor Code violation? That means his fellow cadets gave him the boot! Well, OK. But I hope they realize that it could have been them.


28 posted on 06/07/2011 1:55:21 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: cynwoody

Unless they say King ‘lied’ about the incident. West Point is very rigid about that (lying). It also means that a fellow cadet filed the complaint. A real kick in the gut.


29 posted on 06/07/2011 2:00:35 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: pogo101
" “Kicked out of West Point for being in a drunken fight”

That's better than many of us have done on our best day. :)

30 posted on 06/07/2011 2:23:51 PM PDT by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: calex59

“Obviously West Point knows something we don’t. I tend to trust their judgement on this one.”

“Then you are a frickin’ idiot. The Army(and other military services)have long been unjust and willing to sacrifice one of their own in order to keep things on an even keel(in their opinion).”

I don’t think we know enough about what happened here. The statement from USMA leaves open the possibility that it could have been an honor violation. Even though I think the goons should have been arrested, and this cadet should sue....an honor violation is a completely different matter.

When I was at West Point, most violators were dismissed...end of story. However, they did let a few ‘found’ violators rehabilitate themselves. They would be moved to a different company, where they were complete outcasts, to start anew.

This business of being sent ot the regular Army as an E-4, to pay back your debt, after becoming ‘committed’ at the beginning of your third year, was always a lingering threat. Technically, if you tried to resign after reaching this point, you would have to do the service as an E-4. However...it was almost never implemented...so this is certainly a new way of doing things.

Back to the original story...his attorney seemed so ‘go along to get along’ with USMA’s decision, I strongly suspect this guy did more than get in a fight. He probably told a little white lie about what happened...and that is an honor violation.


31 posted on 06/07/2011 2:44:56 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Tallguy

“Unless they say King ‘lied’ about the incident. West Point is very rigid about that (lying). It also means that a fellow cadet filed the complaint. A real kick in the gut.”

Other cadets would have to file a complaint...its called the Toleration Clause. A Cadet will not lie, cheat, or steal....or tolerate those who do.


32 posted on 06/07/2011 2:46:52 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

Up to this USMA statement I had thought that we probably knew enough about this story to form a judgment about what the Academy did in expelling this cadet. I’m not so sure now. An honor violation is a whole different ball of wax. We may have formed the correct impression as to the incident that occured in Houston, but there may have been related factors that triggered the honor violation.

I don’t think that there’s a legal argument in the world that will get him reinstated after a Honor Code dismissal. The Corps of Cadets owns this decision collectively. King’s lawyer may have already figured this out.


33 posted on 06/07/2011 2:55:03 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: bvw
Good analysis.

My take as a long time veteran but questioning officer.

It may very well be true that the cadet did lie about drinking, and thus did violate the honor code, which was reviewed by his peers, and whereby the West Point action is autonomous, and like a post above suggests, not influenced by Patti Labelle, the loser and her thugs. Furthermore the re-assignment to active duty then permission to re-apply is a respectful decision, and hopefully will be fulfilled in a trustful manner (that is to say he will be re-admitted).

I also agree however that the failure to cite the thuggery of the Labelle bunch, even if it were just mentioned, smells a bit of the political correctness and cowardice of the contemporary military, especially the government financed military academies. From long time experience let NO one just blatantly assume that the US Military general officer corps is simply of principled high character. Remember always that the Soviet Union had a powerful military, the leadership of which was totally unprincipled with respect to individual integrity and responsibility. That is to say it was just as "leftist" as any Democrat Party operative who is simply a yes-man for the "Party," personal loyalty, integrity, or character be damned.

The key in this decision is for the cadet to take it on the chin now (for the possible honor code violation), but he better be accommodated affirmatively come eighteen months, and hopefully those in support will sue the piss out of Labelle and her arrogant scum.

Johnny Suntrade

34 posted on 06/07/2011 3:06:06 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: freedommom

i’m confused... why’d he get kicked out?

because his lawyer filed suit?
because the perp is a singer?
a black singer?
covering for libtards?

what exactly did the kid do wrong?

it’s important to know... so the next time he’s beaten up, he can do it in proper west point fashion


35 posted on 06/07/2011 3:18:06 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Unfortunately if this were an Honor Code violation we may never get a concise public statement giving details. I think the proceedings are closed to even the staff at the USMA. It’s strictly between the accused, accuser & the Honor Board as far as I know.


36 posted on 06/07/2011 3:26:11 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: freedommom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-aq5WJGC8

160lb White kid back home to visit family from serving his country in military training comes up and tries to assault 3, 300lb, large black body guards, the limo driver, and Patti Labelle.

"Clearly this is a case of self defense" - Eric Holder

http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-the-color-of-crime-826
37 posted on 06/07/2011 3:26:50 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: sten

IOW’s it’s between Cadet King and his classmates.


38 posted on 06/07/2011 3:27:20 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: freedommom

in the video, looks like a white guy is standing on the curb talking on his cell phone.

1 black guy deliberately bumps him, the white guy shoves back, and 2 more black guys jump in.

the 3 black guys hit him a few times and throw towards a cement pillar. looks like he hits his head against the pillar and the curb.

then they back away, obviously aware of something

after that, the kid tries to stand and cannot regain his balance... typical if you’ve almost been knocked out

was the kid drunk? unclear. his balance seemed fine prior to having his head bashed into the concrete.


39 posted on 06/07/2011 3:29:48 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: lacrew
West Point is very rigid about that (lying). A Cadet will not lie, cheat, or steal....or tolerate those who do.

Hmmm, I guess O wouldn't last very long there...........

8:}

40 posted on 06/07/2011 3:30:04 PM PDT by AwesomePossum (I have never looked this forward to a Novembr II........)
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To: freedommom

After 18 months enlisted methinks he will look at the Long Gray Line a little differently.

I would lay odds he will take the settlement he is going to get, and go do something else.

Jaded would be a word that I think will describe him when he is done.

As an aside, I wonder if the 18 months is counted in this commitment if he goes back and graduate?


41 posted on 06/07/2011 3:39:17 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Is there anyone that Obama won't toss under the bus?)
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To: verity

“My ADVICE to you is to learn the proper usage of words.”

I can tell you are not capable of seeing the big picture. You must work in DC.


42 posted on 06/07/2011 4:38:57 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: cynwoody

“How is being drunk in public, even assuming he was, a violation of the honor code?

Conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentlemen, perhaps. But it that’s all it was or wasn’t, then charging him with an honor violation is an honor violation.”

After seeing this, I can say only a fool would join the Army or go to West Point. The person that runs West Point is not able to think, they can’t even reverse this guys punishment after seeing the video. If this is how they treat you when you are attacked in Houston, you can be sure they won’t have your back in IRAQ! Please, members of the Army, vote with your feet. Don’t join, and leave as soon as you can.


43 posted on 06/07/2011 4:44:58 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: AwesomePossum

No politician would. “Quibbling” or acting like a “sea lawyer” were minor sins that could draw punishment. With such constant policing it’s difficult to tell an outright lie because you realize how easily you can be caught.


44 posted on 06/07/2011 4:48:22 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: FightThePower!

Make an effort to acquire your GED.


45 posted on 06/07/2011 5:06:12 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: verity

You must work for the government, you are incapable of seeing the big picture.


46 posted on 06/07/2011 5:23:53 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: verity

Verity is a shill for the Houston Police Department and West Point. On a thread that expresses outrage over video evidence showing a Cadet, getting arrested and disciplined by West Point after being pummeled by a thug for doing nothing more than standing next to a famous persons luggage at an airport, verity decides to get huffy about a spelling error. Yes, a spelling error. Oh the humanity. Way to focus on the things that matter, verity.


47 posted on 06/07/2011 5:53:31 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: Terabitten
Believe me, Hudson High could care less who Patti LaBelle is or isn’t.

How much less could they care?

48 posted on 06/07/2011 5:55:03 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: Terabitten
Believe me, Hudson High could care less who Patti LaBelle is or isn’t.

Agree. There's politics in the military and the academies, but not this kind of stuff.

49 posted on 06/07/2011 5:58:06 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: sten
in the video, looks like a white guy is standing on the curb talking on his cell phone.

There are other, longer versions of the video. Some show him walking out of the terminal and over to the area where the "fight" occurs. He *appears* to be staggering as he walks out...IMHO.

50 posted on 06/07/2011 6:10:28 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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