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What's the best gun/ammo for coyotes?
Self | 9 Jun 2011 | Notary Sojac

Posted on 06/09/2011 7:33:09 AM PDT by Notary Sojac

This fall, we are moving from the city to the country, and I've been told by all my new neighbors that coyotes are a problem.

What I want to do is bring them down quickly when they are in the house and yard area (about 7 acres). I'm not going out to the far reaches of my 100+ acres of woodlands to look for them, and I really don't care about messing up the pelts :-).

Other considerations

This will be my first long gun. I've strictly been a handgun range shooter up till now.

I don't need to go to the cheaper side when buying the rifle, but the cost of ammo is an issue as I don't handload and want to be able to practice a lot (I already have a 400 yd range site cleared).

Appreciate any advice.


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1 posted on 06/09/2011 7:33:12 AM PDT by Notary Sojac
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To: Notary Sojac

Ruger 10-22


2 posted on 06/09/2011 7:34:36 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: Notary Sojac

If you only lived closer . . . I have a practically new Browning .243 with excellent scope . . I don’t hunt anymore but it would be ideal for what you need.


3 posted on 06/09/2011 7:35:36 AM PDT by BipolarBob (There, but for the grace of Jose Cuervo, go I.)
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To: Notary Sojac

.22 lr takes then down pretty good within 100 yards....farther out, a 7.62 x 39 is good, and the ammo is available reasonably cheap....if you want a challenge, a good crossbow can be accurate out to 75 yards ( may as well have some fun with it )


4 posted on 06/09/2011 7:36:26 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Notary Sojac

Weatherby Vanguard (sporter or varmint weight, your choice) in .243 Winchester.


5 posted on 06/09/2011 7:37:37 AM PDT by MCF
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To: Notary Sojac

I’m not an expert on guns or coyotes but wouldn’t it depend on what kind of gun the coyote has?


6 posted on 06/09/2011 7:37:46 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Notary Sojac

Something in the .223 (or 5.56), .243, or .270 range would probably be the cheapest that would get you quick kills. These do represent a danger to neighbors though as the rounds can kill out to about 600 yds and will travel 1 1/2 miles.

A .22 would kill them but not quickly unless you can get within 75 yds and are good enough for a headshot.


7 posted on 06/09/2011 7:38:53 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Notary Sojac
Help?
8 posted on 06/09/2011 7:38:53 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Texas Eagle

Damn, if they can shoot back I guess I’m staying in town.


9 posted on 06/09/2011 7:39:15 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Winchester .308 or 7.62 x 51 NATO terminates with extreme prejudice.


10 posted on 06/09/2011 7:39:29 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: BipolarBob

.223 is an excellent choice.


11 posted on 06/09/2011 7:40:08 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Notary Sojac; al baby

“What’s the best gun/ammo for coyotes?”

How dead do you want them?
How close do you want to get before pulling the trigger?
A Ruger 10/22 with Winchester Expediter screaming out of it at 1640 fps works.
If you can find an older Ruger 10/22 in .22 Magnum, that will work too.

But a good varmint gun using .223, .270 or so will also work, but you have to watch for over penetration punch through.

But I’m the guy who’d use a .308 or a .338 Lapua on a woodchuck, so don’t mind me.


12 posted on 06/09/2011 7:40:38 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Notary Sojac
Killing coyotes is my hobby. I use two guns. 7mm Remington Mag. and an AR-15 in 223.
13 posted on 06/09/2011 7:40:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("If I ever kill you, you'll be awake. You'll be facing me, and you'll be armed. " Mal Reynolds)
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Looks like any piece of wood with a metal barrel from ACME will do.
14 posted on 06/09/2011 7:40:57 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Notary Sojac
Killing coyotes is my hobby. I use two guns. 7mm Remington Mag. and an AR-15 in 223.
15 posted on 06/09/2011 7:41:03 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("If I ever kill you, you'll be awake. You'll be facing me, and you'll be armed. " Mal Reynolds)
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To: Notary Sojac

I like .243 winchester or .308 - these are just personal preferences. You can use it on bigger stuff if you ever want to. I’ sure you’ll get as many different responses as people who post to this thread.


16 posted on 06/09/2011 7:41:37 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga; Notary Sojac

Depending on what state you are in, the coyotes may be hybrids.
Here in NY we have coyote-wolf-domestic dog hybrids.
They have beefier builds and thicker skulls.


17 posted on 06/09/2011 7:43:19 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Notary Sojac

Good luck getting gun/ammo advice from FReepers. The gun grabber brigade should be here any minute...


18 posted on 06/09/2011 7:44:03 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Notary Sojac
When we lived in the country I got my wife a cheap Mossberg 12 gage pump for such issues. I told her, “anything beyond the shotgun range, don't worry about it, I'll take care of that.”

A couple of coyotes, several rattle snakes, and one really strange acting possum were summarily dispatched.

19 posted on 06/09/2011 7:44:03 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Notary Sojac

22.-250 is a great choice for Coyotes. I would buy a Remington 700 in any of the many model numbers. The recoil from a .22-250 is very mild, but it will reach right out and touch them.


20 posted on 06/09/2011 7:44:10 AM PDT by gmoore57
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To: Darksheare

I used a 12 G slug shot on a bowling ball once


21 posted on 06/09/2011 7:44:40 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: Notary Sojac

6.5 Carcano or any bolt action 30-06, scopes are optional depending on how you like to shoot. Go to a local outdoor range and talk to people, possible test shoot what they have.


22 posted on 06/09/2011 7:45:21 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Texas Eagle

Got an audible from me on that one


23 posted on 06/09/2011 7:45:30 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: Notary Sojac

Few things are more annoying than a yapping, squealing wounded coyote. You want something that will drop them cleanly, and while that’s possible with a rimfire, I would recommend a centerfire, something in the .222 Remington to .250 Savage range. As a number of folks here have already noted, the .243 Winchester is nestled well within there. It may be a little overkill at shorter ranges, but will extend your reach out to several hundred yards, and will provide you a good rifle for deer/pronghorn size game should you choose to hunt those at some point.


24 posted on 06/09/2011 7:46:15 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Notary Sojac

What do you mean by coyotes being a “problem”? Most issues between humans and wildlife can be mitigated with a little foresight. Unless you’re just itching to prove your country chops by killing something, I suggest you give some thought to that.


25 posted on 06/09/2011 7:46:39 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Notary Sojac

Anything above a .22 Hornet should be fine. The only upper limit would be how much do you like recoil.

I think a .223 or .243 are both just about ideal.

For handguns a .44 magnum would be good. A .357 magnum and even a 9mm should suffice.


26 posted on 06/09/2011 7:46:58 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Notary Sojac
Nothing by Acme.

L

27 posted on 06/09/2011 7:47:27 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Darksheare

Long ago when I was kid, my great uncle (long since deceased) was using 30-06 on groundhogs that were eating his garden. I thought it was a good idea. You didn’t have wounded ones running back into their holes like if you shot them with a .22. He sold produce, so the were eating his profits.


28 posted on 06/09/2011 7:47:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Notary Sojac
Shooting visible coyotes is as useless as stomping the occasional cockroach; you're only getting the tip of the iceberg. It likely only makes you feel empowered by doing so.

I'd take other precautions, like protecting pets at night and fencing off other areas you don't want invaded. Much more effective. But blast away at the occasional bold pest if it makes you feel better.

29 posted on 06/09/2011 7:48:21 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Texas Eagle
I’m not an expert on guns or coyotes but wouldn’t it depend on what kind of gun the coyote has?

Xactly!

Think Wile E. Coyote.

I'd highly recommend the Barrett .50 cal M82 sniper rig.

30 posted on 06/09/2011 7:48:28 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (Have ya hit 'em in the a$$, Never let off the gas 'til ya rolled into Victory Lane?)
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To: Notary Sojac

I forgot to mention ammo. Basically, anything Federal makes especially their Supreme, will serve your needs well. Give a good .22-250 a try.


31 posted on 06/09/2011 7:48:39 AM PDT by gmoore57
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To: VanDeKoik

32 posted on 06/09/2011 7:48:39 AM PDT by abb
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To: Notary Sojac

CCI has what they are terming a Stinger that competes with Winchesters Expediter .22LR.
http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=1&loadNo=0050

Winchesters product is hard to find:
http://www.winchester.com/library/news/Pages/News-Xpediter.aspx

I found that my 1996 Ruger 10/22 RB performed better with the Winchester ammo than it did with CCI, Remington, or Federal.
Weird.


33 posted on 06/09/2011 7:50:22 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Notary Sojac
I would buy a good Remington BDL, with a composite stock, have it accurized and rebarreled in a #5 or larger sized bench rest configuration. Place a Leopold 4x12 scope or better on it and have it chambered for 708 or 7x57 Mauser.

The 7mm is one of the very best flying bullet choices because of it's inherent high coefficient (over 700) and the moderate load is not over bore capacity and is extremely accurate. Both cartridges are very easy to find and buy, since the buying frenzy trend is mostly focused on NATO rounds, like 5.56 & 7.62.

You can find a very good older action in Rem. 700, have it checked out and tuned by a good gunsmith to outperform a new factory rifle at a much lower cost.

Do this, and you will have a tack driving beauty that is a dream to shoot and maintain. Not only that, you can take it deer hunting when you graduate into that realm.

34 posted on 06/09/2011 7:50:30 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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You are going to want a
Long Range Varmint Rifle from Savage in 22-250.

35 posted on 06/09/2011 7:50:58 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: al baby

LOL!
You speak my language!


36 posted on 06/09/2011 7:51:20 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare
How dead do you want them?

If it takes a second shot, I can deal with that.

How close do you want to get before pulling the trigger?

Pretty close (see post 7). If I'm not sure the round won't carry to my neighbor's property, I'm not squeezing the trigger.

37 posted on 06/09/2011 7:51:30 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: Notary Sojac
Cabela's has regular sales on WWII era Mosin Nagants for $99. Usually accurate out-of-the-box with iron sights, a fun shoot, and cheap surplus ammo can be found HERE. Have fun, Comrade!
38 posted on 06/09/2011 7:51:47 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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If you use a .22LR, I recommend CCI Velocitor ammo. I also recommend keeping your shots within 50 yards. I have killed coyotes dead in their tracks with Velocitors inside 50 yards. You can certainly kill them further. Coyotes that are busy mousing and not spooked are usually not hard to kill.

If you limit your shots to 40 yards or less, a shotgun with full or extra full choke and heavy shot works great.

Further out, there are numerous .22 centerfires to choose from. The .223 is ubiquitous and a good choice. The .22-250 is, in my opinion better. Just for pure shooting fun it is hard to beat the .22 Hornet.

You can also take the rimfire path with the .22WMR or the .17HMR.

I have seen coyotes killed cleanly as far as 220 yards with the .22WMR. I have no experience with the .17 version, but I’ve heard it works. If you were a reloader, the Hornet would be my recommendation.


39 posted on 06/09/2011 7:52:34 AM PDT by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: LasVegasMac
I'd highly recommend the Barrett .50 cal M82 sniper rig.

.50 cal??? Holy frijoles. You want to kill them, not vaporize them.

40 posted on 06/09/2011 7:53:22 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: from occupied ga

I was helping out a farm in Tinton Falls NJ, ran across a woodchuck that had five furrows across its head.
Seems someone taged it at close range with a .22lr and it lived to tell the tale.
Left an impression on me.
I suggested the guy use a shotgun slug next time.
My buddy’s mom freaked out about the extermination of the ‘cute woodchucks’.


41 posted on 06/09/2011 7:53:22 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Notary Sojac

"Yeah. I think this one'll do."
42 posted on 06/09/2011 7:56:52 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

Not only that, think of his poor neighbors!


43 posted on 06/09/2011 7:57:47 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: BipolarBob

“If you only lived closer . . . I have a practically new Browning .243 with excellent scope . . I don’t hunt anymore but it would be ideal for what you need.

A good choice of caliber. I have a Browning .243 lever action with a scope that I bought for my wife several years ago (lol) so she could go deer hunting with me (west Texas, small deer) but never happened, lol, :) The only problem with the .243 is cost of ammo. Thereby, I would suggest something similar such as the .223/5.56mm maybe a Ruger Mini 14 or a AR-15 (semi version of M-16). These rounds can be purchased cheaply (especially reloads) at gun shows, Shot Gun News, etc. Makes for fun plinking too. Anyway, my two bits :)


44 posted on 06/09/2011 7:57:47 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: Notary Sojac
All nice weapons listed here. If you're budget conscious at all - you might try what I use and my results are perfectly acceptable.

30-30 Winchester 1892 Carbine with a ghost sight on the receiver tang. Super fun and you can also get sabot ammo in, I believe, 22 cal.

Lights out! ;-)

45 posted on 06/09/2011 7:57:57 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Okers.
See post 33 for ammo suggestion.
After you grab a couple boxes of the stuff, take the rifle to the range and practice with it, sight the scope etc, the high velocity stuff behaves vastly different than the usual 1230 fps ammo.
It will force you to also keep notes on which ammo works better for your rifle.
I have two Rugers.
One has a definite preference for the Winchesters.
The other seems to prefer CCI.
*shrugs*
Weird.


46 posted on 06/09/2011 7:58:27 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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Not only that, think of his poor neighbors!

Good point. The noise would vaporize his neighbors.

47 posted on 06/09/2011 7:59:15 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Darksheare
My buddy’s mom freaked out about the extermination of the ‘cute woodchucks’

Nothing cute about woodchucks. They're destructive pests. Personally, the last time I shot one was with .223 - left pieces of woodchuck where it exited and the thing still managed to get back in the hole before it died.

48 posted on 06/09/2011 7:59:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Notary Sojac

If you do not plan to take long shots, and the neighbours are a problem, I suggest a good old 12 gauge shotgun.

Coyotes are tough creatures, a load of heavy buckshot will do the trick if they are close.


49 posted on 06/09/2011 7:59:31 AM PDT by wendell
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To: mad_as_he$$

Love the 7mm! It will kill em if it passes to close to their head! ;-) (not really bit they might die from from a heart attack if they saw the size of the slug!)


50 posted on 06/09/2011 8:00:35 AM PDT by databoss
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