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Archaeologist thinks structure beneath Jerusalem is 2nd Jewish Temple
Huliq.com ^ | 06-06-2011 | Mechele R. Dillard

Posted on 06/09/2011 8:51:29 AM PDT by Renfield

Dr. Eilat Mazar of Hebrew University, one of the most prominent Israeli archaeologists, believes that remains from the First and Second Jewish Temple periods are currently below the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Mazar believes that the remains do include the Second Temple itself, in fact, and that with the technology available today, archaeologists can, at minimum, ensure that artifacts are not disturbed until a future excavation can be safely conducted.

"I am absolutely sure,” said Mazar in an interview with “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio” on New York’s ABC Radio, “in light of my very rich experience excavating Jerusalem for 30 years now, all these remains are waiting to be revealed. And if it can't be done nowadays because of all kinds of sensitivities, at least we should take care that it won't be ruined for future excavations when time comes."

Currently, Mazar is leading the excavation department at the City of David—an archaeological village at the base of the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount was originally the site of the holiest place in Judaism, the Temple of Jerusalem; Muslims view it as the location of Muhammad’s journey to heaven, as depicted in the Quran; and Christians believe that the site is important as a location chosen by God; often visited by Jesus; and a site that will play a key role in the last days.

The First Temple was chosen by God as the site to house the Ark of the Covenant, a project undertaken by the son of David, King Solomon, and completed in 957 BC; it was destroyed in 587-86 BC by King Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon. The Second Temple was built in 538 BC, when the Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem by King Cyrus II of Persia.

Mazar has accused the Wafq—Islamic custodians of the Temple Mount—of destroying artifacts, as well as conducting construction, in an attempt to turn the Temple Mount into a “giant mosque,” World Net Daily reported. She indicated that the supervision on the Wafq has been severely lacking, especially by four Israeli state agencies: police, the Antiquities Authority, the Jerusalem municipality and the Justice Ministry.

Although Mazar seems positive about her suspicions regarding the remains of the First and Second Temples, her belief seems to be based on nothing more than deductive reasoning, due to the fact that the site has never been properly excavated: "I think we will find all the remains starting from the First Temple period and remains of the Temple itself," she said in the radio interview. “I mean, no one took it out, it's there."


TOPICS: History; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: archaeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; hebrews; jerusalem; jerusalemtemple

1 posted on 06/09/2011 8:51:32 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv

Biblical archaeology ping.


2 posted on 06/09/2011 8:52:06 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

No wonder “evil with a president’s face” wants to split Jerusalem.


3 posted on 06/09/2011 8:53:26 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Renfield

Well, it’s already “a giant mosque,” but it still would be really interesting to see if there’s anything under there someday that could give a notion of the architecture of the second Temple.

No sane person, however, wants to do away with the mosque or re-build a Temple. We’ve sort of moved past animal sacrifice as a form of worship.


4 posted on 06/09/2011 8:57:33 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Renfield

This is one mosque I am confident will not stand.


5 posted on 06/09/2011 8:58:33 AM PDT by mancini
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To: Renfield
Christians believe that the site is important as a location chosen by God; often visited by Jesus; and a site that will play a key role in the last days.

Only a small segment of Christians, i.e., the millennialists, believe that last part, "a site that will play a key role in the last days."

It did (past tense) "play a key role in the last days," when the temple was destroyed in A.D. 70, thus fulfilling Jesus' prophecy. But that's it.

6 posted on 06/09/2011 9:01:26 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: Renfield
Muslims view it as the location of Muhammad’s journey to heaven, as depicted in the Quran;

Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Qu'ran and Muhammed never went there. Ever.

7 posted on 06/09/2011 9:01:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Charles Henrickson

I’m not sure the millions of Believers who are “millennialists” is a “small segment”...


8 posted on 06/09/2011 9:12:11 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Charles Henrickson

Right, hah, and Yeshua didn’t attend every single Feast day proclaimed by Yahweh: Passover, Unleavened Bread, FirstFruits, Shavuot, Rash Haushanah, Yom Kippur, Shukkot. Nor did he honor the Shabbat, wear tzit-tzits or a tillet and he did away with the Torah. All of his teaching were new, not related to or directly drawn from the first covent. When he referenced scriptures he was talking about the to written second covevent.

Neither did his disciples...

Gotcha...


9 posted on 06/09/2011 9:39:10 AM PDT by veracious
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To: veracious
Right, hah, and Yeshua didn’t attend every single Feast day proclaimed by Yahweh: Passover, Unleavened Bread, FirstFruits, Shavuot, Rash Haushanah, Yom Kippur, Shukkot. Nor did he honor the Shabbat, wear tzit-tzits or a tillet and he did away with the Torah. All of his teaching were new, not related to or directly drawn from the first covent. When he referenced scriptures he was talking about the to written second covevent. Neither did his disciples... Gotcha...

Where did I say any of that? Answer: I didn't.

All I said was that the site of the temple, after it was destroyed in A.D. 70, no longer has any "key role in the last days." It's role now, as the city that was destroyed for rejecting her Messiah, is as a microcosm, a "type," of the judgment that is to come on the whole world at Christ's return.

10 posted on 06/09/2011 10:34:07 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: babble-on
No sane person, however, wants to do away with the mosque...

I didn't know I was insane!

(oh, I had my suspicions sometimes, but still...)

11 posted on 06/09/2011 11:57:02 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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12 posted on 06/09/2011 6:49:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Renfield

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Thanks Renfield.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
 

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13 posted on 06/10/2011 2:54:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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14 posted on 06/13/2011 5:16:59 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: Charles Henrickson

WRONG.

BIBLICAL PROPHECY IS CLEAR

THE 3RD TEMPLE WILL BE REBUILT.

THE ANTICHRIST will bring about the

ABOMINATION THAT MAKES DESOLATE

MOST LIKELY SETTING UP

his image to be worshiped as God in the Holy of Holies of the 3rd Temple at the 3.5 half-way mark in the 7 years of the Tribulation period.


15 posted on 06/13/2011 6:37:18 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: SunkenCiv; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

Might be worth a thread:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13715296

Dictionary of dead language complete after 90 yearsBy Cordelia Hebblethwaite

BBC News

The first volumes of the dictionary were published in the 1950s
A dictionary of the extinct language of ancient Mesopotamia has been completed after 90 years of work.

Assyrian and Babylonian - dialects of the language collectively known as Akkadian - have not been spoken for almost 2,000 years.

“This is a heroic and significant moment in history,” beamed Dr Irving Finkel of the British Museum’s Middle East department.

As a young man in the 1970s Dr Finkel dedicated three years of his life to The Chicago Assyrian Dictionary Project which is based at the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago.

That makes him something of a spring chicken in the life story of this project, which began in 1921.


The rest of the

Article is at the link.


16 posted on 06/13/2011 9:40:12 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Renfield

All the technology in the world won’t stop the Waqf’s bulldozers and backhoes.


17 posted on 06/13/2011 10:08:19 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: babble-on

Speak for yourself.


18 posted on 06/13/2011 10:11:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: babble-on
No sane person, however, wants to do away with the mosque or re-build a Temple. We’ve sort of moved past animal sacrifice as a form of worship.
And that whole Torah thing, such an embaressment, huh? I'm sure you'd tell the Messiah to piss off too.
19 posted on 06/14/2011 12:01:42 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: SunkenCiv

OPI—OF POSSIBLE INTEREST:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread716230/pg1


20 posted on 06/14/2011 4:15:37 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mom4melody; Charles Henrickson

Dispensationalist theology, which includes Millennialism, which is a bit over 150 years old (extremely new relative to the life of the Church), is only a major influence in American evangelicalism—especially Baptist(or baptistic/independent)and Pentecostal circles.

In the Lutheran, Presbyterian, Anglican, and Methodist (THE major Protestant denominations) EVEN (or especially?) among evangelical scholars there, Dispensational Milennialist theology—which demands the old Temple be rebuilt (even though Christ’ Church is His Temple...), and has Jesus coming (again) at least 3 different times.... has few if any followers.

Among Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox scholars, Dispenstational eschatology (end-times study) also has no following.

Due to the influence of the popular book in the ‘70s “The Great Late Planet Earth,” Dispensationalism does have a popular following in the USA, but only there...as I said, amidst Baptist, Pentecostal and sorted independent evangelicals, nowhere else. Historically, and, worldwide, among ALL Christian Churches, Dispensational Eschatology is, actually, a small minority view.

Dispensational Eschatology started, by the way, with a small cult-like group called the Millerites, who, like Harold Camping’s fans, believed the world was coming to an end on a certain date (in the 1830s). When it didn’t happen, they thought up alternative explanations, and a group of them went on to found the 7th Day Adventists....a group seen as eccentric at best, amidst most evangelical scholars.

To me it is ironic that the roots of a group many if not most evangelical Baptist/Independent scholars would call cultic, developed the system of eschatology they dogmatically follow.

The historically mainstream Christian view is that Jesus certainly is literally coming again in Judgement—at ANY time now—and NOTHING on the eschatological calender needs to happen before that event...


21 posted on 06/14/2011 10:13:44 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
In the Lutheran, Presbyterian, Anglican, and Methodist (THE major Protestant denominations) EVEN (or especially?) among evangelical scholars there, Dispensational Milennialist theology—which demands the old Temple be rebuilt (even though Christ’ Church is His Temple...), and has Jesus coming (again) at least 3 different times.... has few if any followers.

Thank you. You have described it correctly, as far as this conservative, confessional Lutheran pastor is concerned. I am not a dispensational millennialist.

22 posted on 06/14/2011 12:47:50 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: Quix

Thanks Quix.
23 posted on 06/14/2011 3:30:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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