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Looking for a new 9mm (vanity)

Posted on 06/10/2011 7:29:23 PM PDT by gop4lyf

I am going to a gun show on Sunday and I have narrowed it down to 4 choices. I am not looking for a concealed/carry model since it will be for range shooting and home defense only. I also am not looking for a higher caliber, 9mm only. Does anyone have and experience/opinions on any of these? any feedback is greatly appreciated.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; ruger; sig; springfield; taurus
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Ruger SR9 Springfield XD9 Taurus PT809 Sig Sauer P250

The XD9 is the only one that i have actually fired. I have held the Ruger and it felt fine in my hand.

1 posted on 06/10/2011 7:29:29 PM PDT by gop4lyf
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To: gop4lyf

Friends don’t let friends buy 9mm .45ACP ONLY!


2 posted on 06/10/2011 7:33:45 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Glock sub com. Great gun.


3 posted on 06/10/2011 7:37:13 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: gop4lyf
Don't have any experience with the ones you have listed except for the Springfield, but mine is chambered in .45 ACP. Great gun.

My current 9mm handguns are: Glock 19 and Beretta M9. Different as night and day, but both have been superb.

4 posted on 06/10/2011 7:37:26 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: gop4lyf
You going to the one in Dallas? I'll see ya there!

You can't miss me, I'll be the guy wear a Ranger's Cap and a Mav's T-shirt :-)

5 posted on 06/10/2011 7:37:38 PM PDT by txroadkill ( "The system worked" - J. Napolitano / "We're sooooooo screwed!" -TxRoadkill)
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To: gop4lyf

THe Ruger SR9 would be a good one.

If you were going for the Springfield, get the XDM model (newest). Nicer grip, more capacity.


6 posted on 06/10/2011 7:37:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: gop4lyf

I have a Taurus 709 Slim. It has been flawless through over a thousand rounds of numerous types of ammo. I love the way it fits my hand and it can be carried in a holster or pocket in most types of pants. I love it! It is a single stack and you must clean it right out of the box before shooting it, but, for my money, it is a sweet little 9mm.


7 posted on 06/10/2011 7:38:27 PM PDT by Desparado
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To: gop4lyf

Without regard to your choices, beware the gun-show fares. Yours may differ, but most I’ve been to have far more overpriced guns than bargains.


8 posted on 06/10/2011 7:38:54 PM PDT by umgud
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To: txroadkill

You and everyone else!


9 posted on 06/10/2011 7:39:05 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.)
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To: gop4lyf

May as well buy a .38 Spcl. Go for a S&W .40 or .45 ACP Terminal ballistics are better. I presume your going light for a reason but for the life of me I can’t understand why if it is self defense your concerned about.


10 posted on 06/10/2011 7:40:06 PM PDT by chulaivn66
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To: gop4lyf

So the question is - if it’s NOT for concealed, then why 9mm?

I have a hard time recommending anything 9mm for home defense.

That being said, I *did* purchase a Baretta PX4 Storm *Subcompact* recently for concealed carry purposes. (They have non-subcompact models, too.) It’s a very well thought out pistol with surprising accuracy for a subcompact, so I imagine the non-subcompact is an even better shooter.

Biggest complaint? No chamber window.


11 posted on 06/10/2011 7:40:11 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: gop4lyf

I have a S&W .38 and a 12 gauge that I am currently using for home defense, so maybe this is just going to be a new toy.

:)


12 posted on 06/10/2011 7:43:50 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.)
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To: gop4lyf
Do not overlook CZ handguns

13 posted on 06/10/2011 7:45:09 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: gop4lyf
Any reason for your insistence on 9mm?

I'm kind of a traditionalist so if I was forced to go with a 9mm I'd probably opt for a Browning Hi-Power, CZ75BD or a Beretta M92/M9 or Or a Taurus PT92.

Having said that, unless you have a compelling reason for a 9mm, I'd really reconsider looking at upgrading to .38 Super, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, 10mm, or of course .45ACP if this is to be used for personal defense.

14 posted on 06/10/2011 7:45:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: gop4lyf

Avoid the Taurus!!


15 posted on 06/10/2011 7:47:19 PM PDT by MTG eatdeer
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To: gop4lyf

Get the venerable Glock 17, a reliable classic.


16 posted on 06/10/2011 7:48:06 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: gop4lyf

Get any 9mm you like, as long as it is in .45.


17 posted on 06/10/2011 7:48:26 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: gop4lyf

Beretta 92FS, Italian


18 posted on 06/10/2011 7:48:47 PM PDT by RGT
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To: gop4lyf

Sig Sauer P226 is truly an excellent handgun
the P228 is a bit more compact. I don’t like it for my hand and prefer the P226.
I also love the Browning HiPower.

While these are not on your list, they still are excellent handguns.


19 posted on 06/10/2011 7:49:20 PM PDT by plaidness (Handgun Selection)
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To: gop4lyf

I think all your choices are OK. I know you are limiting your discussion to these particular guns but there are better ones out there.

There is one oddball which I absolutely love. It is the Helwan 9mm. It is made in Egypt and is a quality gun. It is a copy of the Beretta 1951 Brigadier. I have owned enough of them that I actually like them better than the Beretta model 92. They are single action and have an 8 shot mag.

Another great one which seems to fit everyone’s hand and which beginners seem to shoot better than most is the Browning Hi-power. It is single action but very high capacity mags are available. If you want to save money, get an Argentine made one. They are of equal or even better quality yet with a plain finish. I had one which just would not jam no matter what I fed it and that included some reloads I had made many years ago in high school using a Lee loader and a pipe crimping tool so the bullets would stay in the case. It fed it all including some sub-machine gun ammo.

Probably the best is the Sig P-226. The current Beretta model 92 is the best one yet and is a great gun. They have recently made some subtle changes to improve already great reliability.

If you can find a post war Walther P-4 at a good price it is a Walther P-38 lookalike but with greatly improved mechanics. It also is accurate and reliable.

I do not like the various Ruger P series as they mostly don’t feel good in my hand. If they do feel good in yours they are a terrific bargain.

Another odd but great one is the Argentine Bersa. They have changed the models slightly but they are all good.


20 posted on 06/10/2011 7:54:03 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: gop4lyf

You have picked some pretty good names. Pick each one up and see how each one feels in your hand


21 posted on 06/10/2011 7:58:55 PM PDT by NDJeep
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To: gop4lyf
Have a Glock G17 9mm. Home defense, loaded with Remington Golden Sabre ammo. The 9mm Golden Sabre's have the same effect as a .45 on a semipermeable mass.
Glock 9mm's are very fast shooting, little kick, very dependable, accurate at home defense ranges and practice ammo fairly cheap.

Negative = the safety is between your ears with a Glock. If you don't have a lot of time to practice or are not too familiar with handguns, buy something with a regular thumb safety.

22 posted on 06/10/2011 7:59:58 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: RGT
Beretta 92FS, Italian

That's what I carry. Feels like an anchor, but I love it anyway.
23 posted on 06/10/2011 8:00:53 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: gop4lyf

The Sig P250 is a great “friend” to have. Acurate, light weight, and in the matte black invisible in the dark ;)


24 posted on 06/10/2011 8:01:59 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: gop4lyf

No idea about any of those particular guns, although my opinion is that all things being equal, the Ruger is probably the best value for the money. That and I think you might ought to reconsider the caliber- 9mm works but it doesn’t strike with the authority of the .45 ACP.


25 posted on 06/10/2011 8:06:06 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: gop4lyf
That's an interesting line up and I think you are overlooking some better pistols. Smith&Wesson MP, Glock 17&34, and the Browning High power to name a few. The Sig 226 and 228 are better than the 250 or 225. I generally love or hate individual rugers but the SR9 isn't horrible.

I would stay away from Taurus. Their quality control is hit or miss and I'm being generous by saying that.

26 posted on 06/10/2011 8:07:32 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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Get a Sig, but not the P250. If price is a concern, you’ll be happier with an SP2022.

If it is not, go with the P229 or P226.


27 posted on 06/10/2011 8:09:22 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: US Navy Vet

LOVE my CZ 75B.


28 posted on 06/10/2011 8:11:48 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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To: gop4lyf

I like my Beretta 92F.
Bought a Sig P226 since The World’s Greatest Gun Salesman was elected, but haven’t shot it yet.

Oh yeah, those and the rest of the them all fell out of my fishing boat this week. I am still very upset about that. I miss them all so!


29 posted on 06/10/2011 8:12:30 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." I Heart Herman Cain..)
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To: gop4lyf
Don't overlook the Smith and Wesson M&P series, I have one in .357Sig and would not trade it for anything, matter of fact I'm taking it to a Tactical Pistol competition this weekend. It has great ergonomics excellent trigger feel and a nice balance. I do recommend getting different sights right away, the front sight because it is recessed in the blade is prone to debris.
30 posted on 06/10/2011 8:14:08 PM PDT by GunHoardingCapitalist (The Second Amendment was created to protect all Amendments)
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To: gop4lyf

Why not go for a .45?

But hey, you decided on a 9mm.

Sig and XD are good choices.


31 posted on 06/10/2011 8:14:47 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Joe 6-pack
The only 9mm you will ever need.


32 posted on 06/10/2011 8:17:04 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: TheConservativeParty

Anyone that likes 9mm hasn’t tried .38 special or anything bigger. For home defence, you want a shotgun first and a double action revolver second. Notice autoloader handguns aren’t mentioned. This is no accident.


33 posted on 06/10/2011 8:18:38 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: carjic

I accidentally left out the CZs. They are both well designed and well executed. Among the best there is.

Also if you can find one of the old Star model 28 or 30 models, they are beasts. Heavy but reliable and according to shooting ranges they hold up better than any to extensive shooting.


34 posted on 06/10/2011 8:19:50 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: gop4lyf

Echo Snowrip on the Sig P229. It is a tack driver and fun to shoot. Worth the extra money.

Good for concealed carry, home defense and it is home on the range.

Mine is a .40 but it is expensive to shoot. I have shot 9mm, .380 and .40 at the same target for comparison. The .40 makes a nice big hole.


35 posted on 06/10/2011 8:20:00 PM PDT by Amadeo
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To: gop4lyf

Out of those the Sig is the sweetest shooter by far.

In fact, Have you ever fired the Sig in .45ACP??!!??


36 posted on 06/10/2011 8:20:31 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: gop4lyf
I'll answer your question just as you posed it:

I haven't got personal experience with the models you listed aside from the Sig SAUER P250.

Let me nudge you toward a 9mm not on your list that's a sublime range gun and thoroughly capable as hell home defense pistol: Beretta 92FS.

That one is better than all others on your list in fit, finish, and function, but at about the same price. A genuine Italian-made model is beyond compare. Fits your bill perfectly since it's too blocky for CCW anyway, but shoots one ragged hole in paper at 25 feet. Italian Berettas come with amusing and fancy paperwork that looks like a Papal decree, plus a nice case. The other guns you list come in cardboard boxes.

37 posted on 06/10/2011 8:21:37 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: gop4lyf
Take a look at the CZ-82. IMHO, it's one of the best handguns ever made.
38 posted on 06/10/2011 8:22:19 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: gop4lyf

A lot of people (including me) don’t much care for 9mm but you’ve clearly looked into it and made your choice. Anyway, while IMO it’s not the best, it’s also certainly not the worst.

I know you are going to get a lot of recommendations for the Glock even though it is not on your list. Personally I never liked the Glock trigger. Perhaps it is because I’m so used to a single action handgun - the Colt 1911.I find the trigger pull so much longer and less crisp than a single action gun.
While I haven’t had the opportunity to try one, I’ve heard very good things about the Ruger SR9, including here: http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SR9.htm. Note he says that dry firing the weapon without a magazine is very misleading (and not recommended). The main thing is, make every effort to try them all out before you buy - hand guns are very personal - what’s right for your buddy might not be the best choice for you.


39 posted on 06/10/2011 8:23:13 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: gop4lyf

Glock 19 works fine for me. If it’s a home defense gun you might want to get a rail mounted flashlight like a Surefire or Glock makes one as well.


40 posted on 06/10/2011 8:24:11 PM PDT by cryptical (The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: gop4lyf

My XD9 has never failed to feed yet. I trust it 100%.


41 posted on 06/10/2011 8:24:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: Delta 21

It may just be the picture but that Browning seems to have a longer barrel than standard.


42 posted on 06/10/2011 8:26:28 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Yes they do. By the way I also am an Old Navy Vet.


43 posted on 06/10/2011 8:27:27 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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To: Desparado

Taurus has a bad rap. I have a Taurus PT92. It’s a great gun.


44 posted on 06/10/2011 8:29:27 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: gop4lyf

Find a Browning Hi-Power if you can. Seriously. I love my Kahr PM-9 but the Browning was the one that made it all happen.


45 posted on 06/10/2011 8:29:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: yarddog

Its gotta be the digital camo. If you stare at it hard enough it kinda morfs in and out.


46 posted on 06/10/2011 8:36:29 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: US Navy Vet

AMEN!!!!!!!!


47 posted on 06/10/2011 8:36:29 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: US Navy Vet

“Friends don’t let friends buy 9mm .45ACP ONLY!”

1911s are great! I have one. But there is something to be said for high capacity magazines in 9mm with the proper ammo. They will be useful when addressing the future street home invasion flash mobs (20 - 40)that many suspect are on the horizon (fewer tactical reloads). One of each in left and right hand are just fine.

Ref. posters request, I would offer XD, Sig, Baretta, and Taurus as mfrs. of quality 9mm, but if it is not a carry gun, get at least 17 mag capacity.


48 posted on 06/10/2011 8:38:30 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: gop4lyf

XD 9 would be fine. But check out a Browning Hi-Power.


49 posted on 06/10/2011 8:42:13 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: WackySam
Excellent choice !

CZ-82


50 posted on 06/10/2011 8:47:29 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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