Posted on 06/12/2011 10:14:02 AM PDT by PROCON
(Reuters) - An Apple Inc (AAPL.O) store employee has started a union in a rare move at a company known for its near-fanatical following and cutting-edge mystique.
Cory Moll, a part-time employee at an Apple store in San Francisco, is working to form a union to fight for better wages and benefits and to address what he says are unfair practices in the company's glass-and-steel retail showrooms.
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Look at the auto workers union in the '70's, where the UAW's slick negotiators caused the average American car to almost triple in price.
This isn't an anti-union rant, just sayin...
If Apple doesn't nip it NOW, Apple will be found in the history books only.
No company can survive these days with blood sucking leeches dragging them down.
So remember, the next time the salesperson says some about that Mac for PC, he or she is only a $14 per hour opinion giver.
Simple ,Fire little Cory and anyone else who tries to organize.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with an anti-union rant.
Liberal Apple will be torn between profits and supporting the dem agenda. This will be interesting to watch.
as always, it will be fun to see a committed left winger like Jobs deal with the left wing unions. He is capitalist by day, and leftie by night, in terms of how Apple is run. They strategically have used oversees labor and manufacturing and non-union supplier/shippers, etc from one end of the supply chain to the other. I like Apple quite a bit and respect Jobs greatly for what he and his company have accomplished. This upcoming battle is intriguing to me.
It used to be that if someone didn’t like their job, they would quit and go find another one. If the person has any sense and marketable skills, he should be able to find a job even in this bad economy.
He should be using his energy to squeal about the high taxes he is paying.
Where oh where could a company find qualified replacements however? /MS
There is no reason for Unions.
Exactly, however you KNOW that he must be a democrat that does not know of such alien ideals as (gasp) TAX CUTS!!
If it was me, I’d fire his union looking @$$, ASAP!
I hear union thug leaders and democrat politicians give major financial reason for them however.
Living here in liberal SF, I agree with you. Your comments are an accurate reflection of the inevitable situation for Apple and other companies. The plight of retail employees trying to make a living in this city is real.
Uh-oh, Mr. Black-turtleneck-and-blue-jeans isn’t going to like this...
Cut his hours to 6am to 7am on Sunday mornings.
Apple store employees are pretty meaningless for Apple’s profits. Apple’s H1b visa engineers are not joining union any time soon.
That is quite illegal and would net Apple a multi-million fine. But, Apple could inform workers that should they go union, they will lose ALL benefits and will fight every union proposal. Let them strike since you can almost never make up the losses incurred by a strike.
Or....move to Hecho en Mexico.
how ironic....doesn’t Jobs give millions to obama in campaign $$$?? i hope the union goes balls out to unionize Apple- the hypocrisy should be fun to watch...
That guy should be fire asap.
i was browing in an apple store
when a frustrated customer arrived at
“the genius bar”
to complain that he could not open his new ipad.
turns out not one but two buttons open an ipad.
s
That guy should be fired asap.
Hey, Apple is run by libs - they should LOVE being Union!
Exactly. Fire the little puke today.
I remember a documentary on the demise of the Studebaker Corp that had as a base premise that the UAW used this #5 auto company to force industry-wide agreements upon the other auto companies. Going into the Great Depression, Studebaker had a paternalistic view of it’s workforce and strove to keep employees even when car sales could not support the load. Even through the early 50s, it still had the highest wages in the US Industry. The UAW / Walter Reuther used a strategy of striking one manufacturer to force matching wages throughout the unionized factories. When Studebaker sales faltered, no kindness was shown for past good treatment and the company, founded to build wagons in 1852, died in the 1960s.
Agree, firing the little faggot will solve the problem.
Jobs is a big lib, so watching his response will be interesting. I’m guessing he’s gonna be a hypocrite.
It must be strange in the upper echelons of Apple at times - they are obviously Californian libs and they even have the Gore-acle on their Board of Directors, but when they see the anti-capitalist movement of the current left, does it even twinge?
Doesn’t San Fran have a living wage law on the books? If so, these employees are living high on the hog! /s
Well I always said every man has a right to be stupid.
to fight for better wages and benefits and to address what he says are unfair practices in the company's glass-and-steel retail showrooms.
“Every slave has with in him the means to end his slavery.”
Don’t like it there? QUIT!
I thought FReepers were educated.
You people obviously do not understand how our legal system is tilted totally in favor of unions. It ties the hands of capitalists and, in some cases, even silencing them.
If you fire someone who is trying to form a union, it is default judgement against you.
Union installed. No vote. No questions asked.
Please THINK before posting.
Torn.
I am not a fan of unions. At the same time would I love a union to harass liberal, elitist, humanitarian, we-are-so-superior-over-everyone Apple? The ironic paradox is almost too tantalizing to say no to.
I was not offering legal advice. Perhaps I did not mention that.
Ah, yes, I almost forgot, Algore, the great hypocrite, who warns us against rising sea levels, yet purchases a mansion on ocean-front property.
The "Green" capitalist buys carbon-offsets to appease his liberal guilt!
I DID NOT say fire him for trying to start a union. There are always other reasons why you can fire him. You’d be a fool to come out and say, You’re fired for trying to start a union. You’ve just got to be a little creative.
“That is quite illegal and would net Apple a multi-million fine. But, Apple could inform workers that should they go union, they will lose ALL benefits and will fight every union proposal. Let them strike since you can almost never make up the losses incurred by a strike.
Or....move to Hecho en Mexico.”
Amazing we have a government that cannot run anything dictating policy to the productive,I would make that my job to find a way to for these Insects to be very uncomfortable.
“Hey, Apple is run by libs - they should LOVE being Union!”
LOL, except when they have to PAY!
“Fire him...
I thought FReepers were educated.
You people obviously do not understand how our legal system is tilted totally in favor of unions. It ties the hands of capitalists and, in some cases, even silencing them.
If you fire someone who is trying to form a union, it is default judgement against you.
Union installed. No vote. No questions asked.
Please THINK before posting.”
Anyone can be fired,You just have to do it Smart!
My wife and I were discussing unions last evening. My comments were along the line that being a youngster in the really contentious days in the early 30s there was a need for establishing balance between productivity and compensation. However once the unions got into the government pockets, or visa virsa, our entire free enterprise system was altered. I see no redeeming value reason for any government support of unions just as I believe government should not prevent any group of people from joining together in free will to promote their belief/cause. The only justification for government involvement is to see no laws are broken but not to mandate ‘fairness’. Today’s unions see and are able to use government to enforce their ideas for a ‘new world order’ (Bush1) of communism for the elite.
“Liberal Apple will be torn between profits and supporting the dem agenda. This will be interesting to watch.”
If a union movement should gain traction among Apple employees, and I don’t think it will, you can count on the brick and motar stores in threatened areas to shut down. Apple will go to internet stores in those areas. Count on it. Jobs may be a liberal but he’s a business man first and foremost....
You probably do not live here in SF so forget that minimum wage argument. What employees here want is a clear and obvious way to progress within an organization and a chance to advance since many enjoy retail. However, hiring mostly part-time is often a convenient way for SF companies to keep from paying basic benefits and avoiding scheduling conflicts. For one, it allows them to ignore requests for days off even if requested way in advance.
Retail employees job status reflect the current poor job market situation, they are not the cause. Even if SF part timers are very well educated as compared to other parts of the country,- (which they are), their dilemma is having to accept low paying part-time jobs on poor terms since that is all that is available. The companies here enjoy what is often called ‘perfect competition’. It is not a union issue, but if companies are not responsive, well........
Depends on the state moron.
Jobs is one of the darlings of the Liberal, Socialist, and Progressive movement. Lets see how many of them start protesting Apple if he cans the guy and tries to squash the whole thing.
I hope this kid is successful.
Liberals like Jobs need to take responsibility for their own ideology by living under the effects of their ideology.
Liberals universally exempt themselves from their own taxes, regulations, labor policies, etc.
I’m tired of liberals imposing their will on everybody except themselves.
Let them live and die by their own failures.
Calling me names does not change the fact that you cannot fire someone for trying to start a union......IN ANY STATE!
>This isn’t an anti-union rant, just sayin...
I;m not offended by your rant. They are expensive overbloated pieces if fine machinery, but the fact you “subliminally” TRIED to apologize for it when FR is a pro-free market, anti-union forum is disconcerting.
An anti-union forum?
I don't think so.
FR seems to be an anti-government union forum. My comment on post #1 was vehemently anti-union, some unions are just too greedy.
But to be honest with you, I'm a member of a state government union, but we pay our fair-share unlike some other government unions. So, if I would be completely anti-union, I'd be a hypocrite.
what’s a “fair share”?
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