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Scientists predict rare 'hibernation' of sunspots
Yahoo News ^ | 6/14/11 | Kerry Sheridan

Posted on 06/14/2011 8:12:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins

WASHINGTON (AFP) – For years, scientists have been predicting the Sun would by around 2012 move into solar maximum, a period of intense flares and sunspot activity, but lately a curious calm has suggested quite the opposite. According to three studies released in the United States on Tuesday, experts believe the familiar sunspot cycle may be shutting down and heading toward a pattern of inactivity unseen since the 17th century. The signs include a missing jet stream, fading spots, and slower activity near the poles, said experts from the National Solar Observatory and Air Force Research Laboratory. "This is highly unusual and unexpected," said Frank Hill, associate director of the NSO's Solar Synoptic Network, as the findings of the three studies were presented at the annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society's Solar Physics Division .. "But the fact that three completely different views of the Sun point in the same direction is a powerful indicator that the sunspot cycle may be going into hibernation."

A study in the March 2010 issue of Geophysical Research Letters explored what effect an extended solar minimum might have, and found no more than a 0.3 Celsius dip by 2100 compared to normal solar fluctuations. "A new Maunder-type solar activity minimum cannot offset the global warming caused by human greenhouse gas emissions," wrote authors Georg Feulner and Stefan Rahmstorf, noting that forecasts by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have found a range of 3.7 Celsius to 4.5 Celsius rise by this century's end compared to the latter half of the 20th century. "Moreover, any offset of global warming due to a grand minimum of solar activity would be merely a temporary effect, since the distinct solar minima during the last millennium typically lasted for only several decades or a century at most."

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: agw; catastrophism; economy; estate; globalwarmingfraud; globalwarminghoax; real; shtf; sunspots
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READ the LAST two Paragraphs.....it says it won't affect global warming even if it lasts a century.....

UNEXPECTED...

1 posted on 06/14/2011 8:12:21 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins

Not just UNEXPECTED it’s UNPOSSIBLE.


2 posted on 06/14/2011 8:15:46 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (No one is more against progress than a progressive.)
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To: goodnesswins

I’ll bet its our fault. Probably AGW at work.


3 posted on 06/14/2011 8:16:38 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: goodnesswins
"This is highly unusual and unexpected"

Of course. Isn't everything that dumps on the lefty parade these days?

4 posted on 06/14/2011 8:16:59 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: goodnesswins

THE END IS NEAR/s


5 posted on 06/14/2011 8:19:13 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/West, unbeatable.)
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To: Paladin2

“If we are right,” Hill concluded, “this could be the last solar maximum we’ll see for a few decades. That would affect everything from space exploration to Earth’s climate.”


6 posted on 06/14/2011 8:19:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: goodnesswins

Bush’s fault.


7 posted on 06/14/2011 8:19:36 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: goodnesswins
"A new Maunder-type solar activity minimum cannot offset the global warming caused by human greenhouse gas emissions..."

Then if it does get colder, we'll know for certain that AGW was a lie.

8 posted on 06/14/2011 8:19:49 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
"I’ll bet its our fault. Probably AGW at work."

Nawwwww, it's Bush's fault! Just ask President Oaf-bama.
9 posted on 06/14/2011 8:19:54 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (The United States Marine Corps, your greatest friend or your worst enemy. YOU choose.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

10 posted on 06/14/2011 8:20:08 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 874 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: goodnesswins
"Experts are now probing whether this period of inactivity could be a second Maunder Minimum, which was a 70-year period when hardly any sunspots were observed between 1645-1715, a period known as the "Little Ice Age."

QUICK, bring back 100W incandescent light bulbs so we can counteract this impending deadly environmental disaster!!!

11 posted on 06/14/2011 8:25:42 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: goodnesswins
Try to hide THIS decline, *ssholes.

Cheers!

12 posted on 06/14/2011 8:30:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Warm globally, cool locally!

Cool locally, warm globally!


13 posted on 06/14/2011 8:30:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Warm globally, cool locally!

Cool globally, warm locally!


14 posted on 06/14/2011 8:31:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: null and void

Love that movie!


15 posted on 06/14/2011 8:32:10 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (No one is more against progress than a progressive.)
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To: goodnesswins

Predicted hibernation of sunspots???

“Coronal Mass Ejection June 7, 2011”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KELfF7RKK24

This is a “prediction” that will not live up to the hype.


16 posted on 06/14/2011 8:34:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Interesting Times

IF it gets colder???? We’ve been living with one of the coolest springs on record.....and...wouldn’t you think that the sun spot activity or lack thereof could affect different parts of the world differently?


17 posted on 06/14/2011 8:36:02 PM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: goodnesswins

prolonged sunspot hibernation equals new ice age.


18 posted on 06/14/2011 8:36:31 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: goodnesswins
Was Niven right?

Product Description:
Reeling under a new ice age, the lunatic fringe of the environmental movement controls the US government....

Like Atlas Shrugged, it's not fiction, it's the future.

19 posted on 06/14/2011 8:36:31 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (No one is more against progress than a progressive.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Maybe THAT was the last gasp blow-out of the sun for awhile???


20 posted on 06/14/2011 8:37:35 PM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: goodnesswins

Let’s say, just for the sake of argument, that they are right and we have both global warming and AGW. If it is also true that the world is losing solar input, then global warming is good because it will mitigate the cooling. If global warming is good and it is caused by human activity, then that activity is also good because it is offsetting the next Little Ice Age.

Go, humans!


21 posted on 06/14/2011 8:40:07 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: null and void

Nice pic of Dr. Mann.


22 posted on 06/14/2011 8:43:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: goodnesswins

Don’t think so, I think we are just beginning to leave the longest and deepest sunspot minimum in my lifetime or possibly much longer.

I am a Ham Op and have followed this stuff most of my life.

We have known for over 100 years that weather patterns are more variable during sunspot minimums and maximums. There were some correlations drawn about this about 200 years ago.


23 posted on 06/14/2011 8:45:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: goodnesswins

24 posted on 06/14/2011 8:46:07 PM PDT by Errant
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To: goodnesswins
The temperature change associated with any reduction in sunspot activity would likely be minimal and may not be enough to offset the impact of greenhouse gases on global warming, according to scientists who have published recent papers on the topic.

Please forgive us if we confused a bit of dogma with real science.

25 posted on 06/14/2011 8:46:07 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: Errant
Prepare for new Ice Age now says top paleoclimatologist
26 posted on 06/14/2011 8:48:41 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Paladin2

I’m surprised you recognized him without his hockey stick...


27 posted on 06/14/2011 9:07:54 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 874 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: Errant

could you please supply a link/source for your graph?

Much appreciated.


28 posted on 06/14/2011 9:12:30 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
Created by Cuffy and Clow in 1997, and based on Greenland ice core records, this chart shows global temperatures for the past 15,000 years.

From: http://www.iceagenow.com/Lieberman-Kerry_bill_predicated_on_a_lie.htm

29 posted on 06/14/2011 9:19:37 PM PDT by Errant
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To: vbmoneyspender

We’ve made the sun gods angry with our energy use and so now he’s going to freeze our butts just as Algore succeeds in cutting our heating oil and electrical supplies.

Also the global warming freaks have set out on a massive emergency climate engineering program to block the heat of the sun in the atmosphere.


30 posted on 06/14/2011 9:24:25 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: goodnesswins
We’ve been living with one of the coolest springs on record.....

Heh.....come to Texas. It's already late summer here.

31 posted on 06/14/2011 9:24:27 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: goodnesswins
"This is highly unusual and unexpected," said Frank Hill, associate director of the NSO's Solar Synoptic Network..."

Bloody hell. Do they all have to talk this way? Do they even hear themselves?

32 posted on 06/14/2011 9:26:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BereanBrain
Other Charts can be found at the link below which support the initial chart posted.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/10000-years-warmer.htm

33 posted on 06/14/2011 9:45:04 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Drill Thrawl

That’s exactly the book I was thinking of. :)

Pretty interesting read except they think the science FICTION writers can save the world. 8-D


34 posted on 06/14/2011 9:52:52 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: goodnesswins

The next thing you know, they’re going to be telling us that the sun affects the earth’s climate or something silly like that.


35 posted on 06/14/2011 9:56:11 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: Drill Thrawl

Yeah, thought of that myself. Maybe life imitates art, in which case we are screwed....


36 posted on 06/14/2011 9:56:19 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: goodnesswins
"READ the LAST two Paragraphs.....it says it won't affect global warming even if it lasts a century..... "

Well, even they admitted that a minimum will make the weather colder.

"Moreover, any offset of global warming due to a grand minimum of solar activity would be merely a temporary effect, since the distinct solar minima during the last millennium typically lasted for only several decades or a century at most."

Feulner and Stefan Rahmstorf said that the effect would happen ("offset") but be temporary. So what? It'll get colder and warmer, in cycles. It's going to be fun, watching the hordes, unable to afford heat, begin to move southward within two or three years from now.


37 posted on 06/14/2011 10:24:46 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: goodnesswins

The biggest effect of sunspots is not from any difference in heat hitting the planet, but from the “umbrella effect”. High sunspot activity extends from the sun in all directions and deflects cosmic rays from reaching Earth and the other planets. Cosmic rays create clouds when they hit the atmosphere, and that causes cooling. So more sunspots means fewer clouds and warming. Fewer sunspots will mean cooling disproportionate to the difference in actual output from the sun.


38 posted on 06/14/2011 10:42:12 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: null and void

Mann is prominently displayed in the Pantheon of leftist Climate “Science” Rogues in my home lab.


39 posted on 06/15/2011 4:47:19 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Errant

The next Ice Age is overdue and could arrive any day now.


40 posted on 06/15/2011 4:50:22 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
I agree and so do a lot of others: Earth may enter a Little Ice Age within a decade

You can find some interesting reading at this site. I don't agree with his every theory but with the possibility of significant global cooling or even the start of a new ice age, I agree.

41 posted on 06/15/2011 5:28:53 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
Here's a scary graph for you. Note how the ice ages are getting longer and colder.


42 posted on 06/15/2011 7:39:59 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Kellis91789

Thanks for that explanation....


43 posted on 06/15/2011 8:14:28 AM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: familyop

be careful...which “hordes” would those be? I LIVE in the North, and right now I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE SOUTH!


44 posted on 06/15/2011 8:16:12 AM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: vbmoneyspender
This one scares me more. I feel the two are connected.

Last column based on 1st qtr of 2011 only

45 posted on 06/15/2011 8:25:06 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

YIKES...but that is ONLY 38 years....be interesting to know over 100 years....I fear a Yellowstone Blow...that’s what I fear...


46 posted on 06/15/2011 9:28:04 AM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: goodnesswins

Heh. I live in a cold climate, was being silly, and was scaring southerners (lived in the south in the past). ;-)


47 posted on 06/15/2011 10:23:06 AM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yes it will. Colder into the 2020s, not getting warmer until after 2035. That’s my prediction. The minimum will be at least two solar cycles long (24 - 26).


48 posted on 06/15/2011 12:14:52 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel
Note: this topic is from 6/14/11. Thanks goodnesswins.
Bear necessity ping.


49 posted on 08/07/2011 7:44:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Note: this topic is from 6/14/11. Thanks goodnesswins.



50 posted on 08/07/2011 7:44:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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